I've heard this idea before, so I'm gonna repeat it here: DC should do what Marvel did, but backwards. JL movie, then individual movies.

@InnerVenom123 said:

I've heard this idea before, so I'm gonna repeat it here: DC should do what Marvel did, but backwards. JL movie, then individual movies.

I like that Idea.

@InnerVenom123 said:

I've heard this idea before, so I'm gonna repeat it here: DC should do what Marvel did, but backwards. JL movie, then individual movies.

@Tyrus: Having other characters solo outings after the JL movie being prequels could further DC's edge, if handled properly it could really work.

@Tyrus said:

@The_Soverighn: @Omega Ray Jay: @InnerVenom123: Guys - it's smart and creative to do it that way, but no - because if they do solo movies AFTER and want to tell a full origin story then they'd have to basically make the solo movies prequels - OR, if they wanna quickly tell they're origin stories in the ensemble movie be my guest - but it'd be a mistake. Maybe characters like Batman and Superman won't need it but Wonder Woman and Flash would need it... The JLA movie won't have enough time to explain their backstories - even if they do Watchmen-styled flashbacks it still wouldn't work because the JLA members are SEPERATE characters unlike the Watchmen where they are pretty much a family.

Actually it still could work if they can write the characters with enough mystery with each. Have the characters be secretive and the allure of mystery is solidified I mean the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen movie managed to use an ensemble cast of literary figures without even needing flashbacks. Understandable that these literary characters have more history as a mainstream medium but just like comic characters a vast majority barely know the history of the characters in LXG, the same could go if the JL movie were to take that route. All they'll have to do is make a slight mention on who they are make them do badass stuff and theoretically people will be asking "this guy did some pretty sick stuff I wonder what he's about". Unless we see it done and its results I believe both arguments have enough of a point to warrant an argument. The idea of this with the JL should they do it that way is banking on creating mystery and interest in the characters, it's not gonna sell like Avengers but it will make sure that when the other heroes diverge from the group and do solo movies it would possibly be more successful than when they tried doing Green Lantern.

@Tyrus: The prequel that follows JLA could lead into it (or at least lean towards it) in story or at the end, then leaving the path clear for future movies.

@Tyrus said:

By the looks of it - since Will Beall has penned MOST of the script and WB is already looking for a director... Then it looks like the film is coming along quite fast. It was predicted that the movie would have a 2014 release, but it's unlikely if it's (almost) been confirmed a Batman reboot will lead into Justice League, which would likely be a 2015 release as well - SO, the real question is are Warner Bros gonna rule over Avengers in 2015? In my opinion, NO, because if the studio rushes the film and it flunks then they're screwed and Avengers will helm #1 at the highest grossing films of all time - UNLESS Warner Bros can pull if off - I think Justice League would beat Avengers 2 in terms of Box Office (obviously because Superman and Bats), but I'm not too sure on reviews (YES - I'm talking to you Roger Ebert).

You sound ridiculous.

Define: "RUSHED"

In 2008 they were planning for a Justice League Mortal movie, but due to workers strike and economy downturn, it was scrapped.

Then the script was being reworked and abandoned altogether.

In 2011, they hired Will Beall to write the script all over again. Its almost completion and they're planning to tie it into Man Of Steel. They're asked Nolans but he declined and now they're searching for another director.

After the director get on board they'll probably start filming and production next year.

Movie was planned to be done ready in 2015 (Who gave you the idea its 14?) So that'll give them 2 years to film the movie, edit and post production.

(FYI MOS started filming last year and ended early this year february. Now its in post production stage. So filming would only be around 1 year or less)

That means it would've took WB 4 years to do a Justice League movie, not including the first attempt on JL and reworked script.

How long WB take? 10 year?

@Tyrus: I understand what your saying but I'm just looking at what they can do to distinguish themselves from the Marvel line, that's all I can think of at the moment.

@Tyrus said:

@The_Soverighn: @Omega Ray Jay: @InnerVenom123: Guys - it's smart and creative to do it that way, but no - because if they do solo movies AFTER and want to tell a full origin story then they'd have to basically make the solo movies prequels - OR, if they wanna quickly tell they're origin stories in the ensemble movie be my guest - but it'd be a mistake. Maybe characters like Batman and Superman won't need it but Wonder Woman and Flash would need it... The JLA movie won't have enough time to explain their backstories - even if they do Watchmen-styled flashbacks it still wouldn't work because the JLA members are SEPERATE characters unlike the Watchmen where they are pretty much a family.

There is no need to do an origins story.

A Justice League movie can be shot first.

A WW and Flash spin off can be done afterwards. WW can do her origin in a non linear way, the same way Batman Begins did Bruce's origin. Show her origin in a flashback and then how what happened in the origins affected their path and link it back to that.

WW - can use a non linear way to have a flashback and show her clay origins for like 15 minutes, then find out about her greek god connections in the film.

Flash - Basically got struck by lightning and doused in chemical. BOOM. Flash. Simple.

We've seen GL, Batman and Superman already.

Its enough. No one needs to f***ing see Batman's origins again.

@JohnnyWalker said:

if man of steel bombs there will be no justice league movie. theyll just keep making batman movies. so yeah, i doubt theyll ever be able to do a good jla movie. most of their solo attempts were crap. the only success in their track record: superman 1 (rest idiotic), batman 1 (see superman sequels description) and nolan trilogy (and the last one suck in that also). the fact that theyre rushing it this badly and looking at director like ben affleck makes me thing they're rabid for money.

WB has tons of great superhero films, Superman 1 & 2, Batman 1 & 2, Watchmen, V for Vendetta, Batman Begins, Dark Knight, Dark Knight Rises and probably Man of Steel.

Not to mention, WB has tons of experience producing fantasy, action, thriller and ensemble films. Yes, there were a few flops, but so what.

You're making it sound like all the other production companies aren't in it for the money. I guess thats why Sony is so eager to work on a Spiderman reboot within like 4 years. Also, yes I'm sure Fox and Disney are only making Superhero movies because they're concern about giving what fan wants and not about the money.

LOL.

I really don't think it would be a smart idea for WB to try to compete against The Avengers 2 in 2015. The Avengers 2 will obviously do much better than the first Avengers at the box office. It taking the first or second highest gross title would be a given. No point in trying to force competition when the competition could dethrone Avatar or Titanic.

@JohnnyWalker: You mean, Spiderman was done because they believed in Superhero movies?

PLEASE.

Batman and Blade were the first 2 successful movies which spawned the superhero era. X-men only ever took off because of Batman and Blade.

Spiderman was done only because they saw the success in Batman and X-men.

Ironman was done because of Spiderman's success.

If Batman, Superman and Blade never had a movie or had a few box office flops, do you think studios would be interested in making superhero movies?

Every studio milks their franchise. Be it gaming studios like Capcom who milk the f*** out of their gaming franchise or Marvel who is releasing 5 Avengers book. Aren't Marvel milking Avengers?

@Tyrus said:

@sethysquare: Pfft - YOU sound ridiculous. You think Flash being struck by lightning and Boom his origin is done? Well mate, no - just no. Take a look at Hulk - in Avengers, one could say that Marvel ignored The Incredible Hulk's tie in with the plot but in a certain way they didn't - just because the Hulk is a new actor it doesn't mean it's a reboot... The Incredible Hulk's 2 hour plot played a crucial role in how people recognized him in the Avengers, so don't bother saying Flash and WW will be easy to pull off in 5 mins - coz they won't. Green Lantern will have to be the same (IF Ryan Reynolds will return, I'm guessing that if Ben Affleck will direct JLA then he'll kick out Reynolds and helm the Green Lantern character himself, lol) - Hopefully Will Beall won't ignore the events of Green Lantern IF that film is supposedly tied with the DC cinematic universe.

How else can you describe Flash's origin?

He is who he is. Flash got a 90s TV series. His origins was shown in the pilot episode. But essentially it bows down to that. Flash got strucked by lightning and doused in chemicals.

Besides, Batman, Superman, WW, Flash are much bigger icons than Captain America or Thor or Iron Man before the movies. DC have more iconic heroes. People know who they are. Chances are they're going to ignore most of what happened in Green Lantern. Because Justice League isn't formed because some dude gathered them and assembled them. In almost every version, all of the heroes came together by chance. Also, no one recognized Incredible Hulk because of the movie. Nobody watched that movie. People recognize him because he is an iconic character. They know him from the TV show. Less than like 20% of the people that watched Avengers watched Incredible Hulk.

@Tyrus said:

EDIT: @sethysquare: BTW, you're right about Iron Man being made because of Spider-Man - but you can pretty much say that Iron Man spawned the NEWER era of superhero movies - take a look - if you noticed, there will be at least 3 superhero movies every year now because of Iron Man's start of the whole Avengers franchise - NEXT YEAR: Iron Man 3, Kick Ass 2: Balls to the Wall, Thor: The Dark World, Man of Steel and The Wolverine...

No Iron Man did not spawned the new generation of superhero movies.

The success of Dark Knight, Iron Man, Spiderman, Xmen did that. Iron Man alone only started the Avengers franchise.

@sethysquare said:

@Tyrus said:

EDIT: @sethysquare: BTW, you're right about Iron Man being made because of Spider-Man - but you can pretty much say that Iron Man spawned the NEWER era of superhero movies - take a look - if you noticed, there will be at least 3 superhero movies every year now because of Iron Man's start of the whole Avengers franchise - NEXT YEAR: Iron Man 3, Kick Ass 2: Balls to the Wall, Thor: The Dark World, Man of Steel and The Wolverine...

No Iron Man did not spawned the new generation of superhero movies.

The success of Dark Knight, Iron Man, Spiderman, Xmen did that. Iron Man alone only started the Avengers franchise.

Now Sethysquare, let's be real here, Marvel Studios being successful has definitely caused other studios to be more proactive about their movies. In general, when a company has success after success with a product, the rival companies try to emulate that. That's simple business. From smartphones to video games, it happens all the time. Movies aren't any different. Marvel has definitely caused their rivals to be more serious. I don't know how you can refute that logically.

@BushidoBlack said:

@sethysquare said:

@Tyrus said:

EDIT: @sethysquare: BTW, you're right about Iron Man being made because of Spider-Man - but you can pretty much say that Iron Man spawned the NEWER era of superhero movies - take a look - if you noticed, there will be at least 3 superhero movies every year now because of Iron Man's start of the whole Avengers franchise - NEXT YEAR: Iron Man 3, Kick Ass 2: Balls to the Wall, Thor: The Dark World, Man of Steel and The Wolverine...

No Iron Man did not spawned the new generation of superhero movies.

The success of Dark Knight, Iron Man, Spiderman, Xmen did that. Iron Man alone only started the Avengers franchise.

Now Sethysquare, let's be real here, Marvel Studios being successful has definitely caused other studios to be more proactive about their movies. In general, when a company has success after success with a product, the rival companies try to emulate that. That's simple business. From smartphones to video games, it happens all the time. Movies aren't any different. Marvel has definitely caused their rivals to be more serious. I don't know how you can refute that logically.

Yes, isn't that what I've said? LOL.

If they did it right, JLA would be a much more interesting and exciting movie i believe......

Lets face it WB/DC shelved their "Justice League project" for a multitude of reasons and decided to go with yet again a new Batman film with Batman Begins and....SUPRISE, a Superman movie with Superman Returns...They only just recently decided to open up the Justice League movie because of the huge success that was Avengers...So yeah, Justice League is and will be rushed.....really sad thing out of all this is that WB/DC has displayed ZERO ability to get their characters right on the big screen with the exception of Bats N'Supes, and lets face it Supes hasn't had a really good movie since Superman II and that was 30yrs ago!...The fact of the matter is, is that Justice League will be rushed and more than likely will not hit the standard set by The Avengers, but I hope I'm wrong. Everything hangs in the balance with Man of Steel. If it's good and actually plants some sublte seeds to a bigger movie-verse, maybe there's hope for DC movie fans after all.

I've heard this idea before, so I'm gonna repeat it here: DC should do what Marvel did, but backwards. JL movie, then individual movies.