I'm happy that Cyborg was added to the Justice League as a founder. I know it pisses people off, but there it is. The team needed more diversity, and he was a great choice--especially considering that he's always included in the Justice League on TV.

But why weren't there 8 founders?

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I know that it's a lot of characters to work with, but you could write the book as a team book as well as 4 buddy cop films (Superman&Batman, Wonder Woman&Aquaman, Green Lantern&Flash, and Cyborg&Martian Manhunter). Just thinking out loud.

Plus you get a cool Young Justice/Teen Titans lineup.

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@sethysquare said:

I think its a little too confusing.7 is good enough. I don't really care about MM.

Plus why is everyone using that fan made version of Cyborg?

I don't love him, but a lot of people do.

And because it's way cooler than Cyborg's current costume. The current costume could be "Battle Mode", while the fan made one could be "Standby mode."

@sethysquare said:

you know what I think would be really cool? If the villain for the first movie is MM. Haha. That'll be a show I would want to watch and DC can go like there yours Martian Manhunter.

That would piss so many fans off! lol

I still wouldn't like it, because it'd screw up Cyborg's time with the Teen Titans, and have his origin too closely connected to Darkseid. I wouldn't mind Cyborg joining the Justice League once he's more experienced, but I do mind him being a founding member.

@The_Tree said:

I still wouldn't like it, because it'd screw up Cyborg's time with the Teen Titans, and have his origin too closely connected to Darkseid. I wouldn't mind Cyborg joining the Justice League once he's more experienced, but I do mind him being a founding member.

If he had an origin before Justice League, was an established hero like in Flashpoint, and had no connection to Dartkseid, then would it still bother you?

@TheCannon: That's not what this thread is about. In this scenario, no one is replaced

@KainScion: The Super Powers Team and Smallville. He's probs their most used Black Character outside of comics in terms of how many shows he's been on.

@KainScion said:

@Superdork: jesus christ! super powers team was decades ago. and a couple appearances in smallville doesnt quite scream popularity. i think he appeared mostly because he was in tt and people outside of comics would recognise him.

When did I say he was popular? I just think that DC put him on the team because the want to adapt the Justice League to other media. He's their easiest Black character to adapt because they don't have to pay royalties to the creator (Black Lightning, Static), he's not spinoff (Steel), and he has built up minor recognition unlike others (Vixen)

That would've worked better than replacing MM but neither change is really necessary.

I think having 8 members on the team would be fine if another female was added.

@Avenging-X-Bolt said:

I'd have no problem with that I suppose. As long as J'onn's place isn't taken, I'm good. Also did Cyborg show up in Justice League/Justice League Unlimited? I'd hate myself if I missed out on that......

No,he didn't

Because 7 is the traditional number of leaguers. Which I think is stupid anyway, but whatever.

Let's not forget, guys, that it was said int he Origin of the Justice League of America run through 52 and on DC's site that Mark Waid and Ivan Reis showed 8 founders with the Big Seven and Black Canary, even if Dinah didn't keep that status with other writers, even with JLA Year One still considered canon then. So 8 woulda worked by including J'onn in the ranks still. Besides, J'onn's a great character if used right, yet he tends to get screwed over too much of later. :-/

i'm fine with cyborg being on the team. hopefully he joins the team in the movie.

@Mega_spidey01 I like Vic being on the JLA too, but at the same time, they could have also kept J'onn too, since his abilities would be handy and he'd be another powerhouse besides Superman, Wonder Woman and GL

I'm afraid that even if MMH was added as an eighth founding member, people would still be enraged by the inclusion of Cyborg. People hate progression, and think that 'diversity for the sake of diversity doesn't do anything for comics'. Those are awful people. I, on the other hand, find the inclusion of Cyborg as a necessary, step in the progression of comics, and I applaud DC for their boldness.

Cyborg is more interesting than MMH, and he has a wealth of potential for storytelling, given the opportunity. And plus, his powers are cool too. I don't know how people would conclude baselessly that he is under-qualified for a position in the league. Plus, he and Dick Greyson were in the Titans together as kids, and now Greyson is in his twenties working as Nightwing. If Cyborg was older than him there (and he is), why would people still expect him to still be a Teen Titan?