Who should be the villain in 1st Justice League live action film?

#1 Posted by OutlawRenegade (1251 posts) - - Show Bio

Who should be the villain in the first Justice League live action film? This is an origin film that needs to be different from the Avengers. So no invading Alien race like the Chitauri (I'm looking at you White Martians). No Darkseid because he's too similar to Thanos, who will be in Avengers 2.

You can only pick one major villain, but that villain can have an army of some sort.

#2 Edited by _slim_ (13054 posts) - - Show Bio

Despero.

#3 Posted by cattlebattle (12579 posts) - - Show Bio

The Justice League has formed and originated under the threat of an alien invasion several times in several forms of media
 
Screw the Avengers, The League did it first
 
I guess Imeperiex would be something different

#4 Posted by OutlawRenegade (1251 posts) - - Show Bio

@cattlebattle said:

The Justice League has formed and originated under the threat of an alien invasion several times in several forms of media Screw the Avengers, The League did it first I guess Imeperiex would be something different

Yeah, but you can't make the films too similar. Sucks, but it's true. Early bird gets the worm and all that.

#5 Posted by joshmightbe (24598 posts) - - Show Bio

White Martians, and it'd give us a chance to see MM in the spotlight for a change

#6 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

White Martians or Starro

#7 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

Sorry, didn't read the OP. Um... I guess Vandal Savage, The Injustice Gang, or Despero

#8 Posted by cattlebattle (12579 posts) - - Show Bio
@OutlawRenegade said:

@cattlebattle said:

The Justice League has formed and originated under the threat of an alien invasion several times in several forms of media Screw the Avengers, The League did it first I guess Imeperiex would be something different

Yeah, but you can't make the films too similar. Sucks, but it's true. Early bird gets the worm and all that.

So you think every film that has had an alien invasion is similar to the Avengers?? of course I being facetious, I know what you mean
 
Just because they both have super heroes uniting to fight an Alien Invasion, doesn't mean they will be similar, the League members are very different characters with different powers
#9 Posted by Superdork (917 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe said:

White Martians, and it'd give us a chance to see MM in the spotlight for a change

OP says no White Martians.

@_slim_ said:

Despero.

Alien Invader

@cattlebattle said:

Imeperiex

Alien Invader

I say Ultra-Humanite, Felix Faust, Circe, Gorilla Grodd, Ichthultu, or Vandal Savage.

With an army that makes sense for the villain.

#10 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@_slim_: I like that idea.

I'd say Vandal Savage. Something similar to Justice League: Doom.

#11 Edited by Superdork (917 posts) - - Show Bio

@cattlebattle said:

@OutlawRenegade said:

@cattlebattle said:

The Justice League has formed and originated under the threat of an alien invasion several times in several forms of media Screw the Avengers, The League did it first I guess Imeperiex would be something different

Yeah, but you can't make the films too similar. Sucks, but it's true. Early bird gets the worm and all that.

So you think every film that has had an alien invasion is similar to the Avengers?? of course I being facetious, I know what you mean Just because they both have super heroes uniting to fight an Alien Invasion, doesn't mean they will be similar, the League members are very different characters with different powers

No but a film that brings a bunch of heroes together a bunch of super heroes to fight alien invaders will make non-comic readers say, "Avengers rip-off."

Doesn't matter who did it first in comics.

#12 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow, when I was typing my comment, two people said Vandal Savage. Guess I have to be quicker.

#13 Posted by joshmightbe (24598 posts) - - Show Bio

How about Mongul and he could bring war world with him.

#14 Posted by BlackArmor (6134 posts) - - Show Bio

@OutlawRenegade said:

@cattlebattle said:

The Justice League has formed and originated under the threat of an alien invasion several times in several forms of media Screw the Avengers, The League did it first I guess Imeperiex would be something different

Yeah, but you can't make the films too similar. Sucks, but it's true. Early bird gets the worm and all that.

Exactly why I don't ever expect a live action Green Arrow.

Starro, it's an alien invasion but a different type of alien invasion

#15 Posted by cattlebattle (12579 posts) - - Show Bio
@Superdork said:

@cattlebattle said:


No but a film that brings a bunch of heroes together a bunch of super heroes to fight alien invaders will make non-comic readers say, "Avengers rip-off."

Doesn't matter who did it first in comics. Not trying to be facetious or offensive.

So anyone who saw Avengers is saying "this ripped off of the Transformers films because they fought Alien invaders in a major city?? I guess by your logic being all included heroes fighting aliens
#16 Posted by Captain13 (3257 posts) - - Show Bio
Ultra-Humanite with Mind Controlled Clone Army
The Key with a Zombie Army
Gorilla Grodd With An Ape City Army
#17 Posted by BiteMe-Fanboy (7529 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe said:

How about Mongul and he could bring war world with him.

#18 Posted by joshmightbe (24598 posts) - - Show Bio

@cattlebattle: In that case about 150 film makers from the 50s and 60s are owed some serious residuals

#19 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

The Key could work too I guess... No apes though. The only Ape I want is Grodd in a Flash movie.

#20 Posted by cattlebattle (12579 posts) - - Show Bio
@joshmightbe said:

@cattlebattle: In that case about 150 film makers from the 50s and 60s are owed some serious residuals

I suppose your making some sort of quip.......I am...through some attempt at witty responses just responding to the OP as I don't think, just because one movie had a similar goings on, doesn't mean there could be another one as long as the overlying plot is not exactly the same
#21 Posted by joshmightbe (24598 posts) - - Show Bio

@cattlebattle: I was pretty much agreeing with you

#22 Posted by cattlebattle (12579 posts) - - Show Bio
@joshmightbe said:

@cattlebattle: I was pretty much agreeing with you

Sorry...I am slow
#23 Posted by joshmightbe (24598 posts) - - Show Bio

Calling anything a rip off any more is pretty much pointless since all movies, books, plays, comics and music are mostly just variations of ideas that have been around for a long time now. I bet you can't find one 100% truly original story idea in a movie released in the last 20 years if not longer. I'm not saying they're all bad but its very rare for an actual original idea to come up. As long as they found their own way of doing something similar I'm cool with it.

#24 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

Watch the spoilers bud.

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#25 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

Avatar was a total rip-off of Pocahontas >_>

#26 Posted by joshmightbe (24598 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024: Batman is a total rip-off of Zorro

#27 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe: Superman's a total rip-off of Moses

#28 Posted by joshmightbe (24598 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024: St. George is a total rip-off of Sigurd from Norse myths

#29 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe: The Incredibles is a total rip-off of the Fantastic Four. I can do this for hours, lol.

#30 Posted by joshmightbe (24598 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024: Me too and I could go way beyond comics here, like the astonishing amount of similarities between Catholic saints and "Pagan" deities and heroes. See even religious stories from a thousand years ago feature rip-offs.

#31 Posted by Primmaster64 (21138 posts) - - Show Bio
@joshmightbe said:

How about Mongul and he could bring war world with him.

He is a Superman villain...But War World works.
#32 Posted by Primmaster64 (21138 posts) - - Show Bio
@Gambit1024 said:

@joshmightbe: Superman's a total rip-off of Moses

And off Hercules and Buck Rogers.
#33 Posted by cattlebattle (12579 posts) - - Show Bio

I think the Avengers movie was a rip off of Transformers movies...cubes that open up gateways so aliens can invade major cities.....the similarities are astonishing 
 
:)

#34 Posted by joshmightbe (24598 posts) - - Show Bio

@Primmaster64: I was just trying to go with the OP, Darkseid was also originally a Superman villain as well His first appearance was in "Superman's Pal, Jimmy Olson." Which is one area in which Thanos will always have one up on Big D, cause at least he got his start in an A-list book.

#35 Posted by Herokiller12344 (987 posts) - - Show Bio

The only guy that would sense would be......

#36 Posted by Primmaster64 (21138 posts) - - Show Bio
@joshmightbe: Hmmm...he was? I always though Darkseid was a Superman villain.
#37 Posted by joshmightbe (24598 posts) - - Show Bio

@Primmaster64: Yes the scourge of the DC universe started out messing with the least interesting character in the history of fiction

#38 Posted by Primmaster64 (21138 posts) - - Show Bio
@joshmightbe: LOL Jimmy Olsen?
#39 Posted by joshmightbe (24598 posts) - - Show Bio

@Primmaster64: Yup

#40 Posted by Primmaster64 (21138 posts) - - Show Bio
@joshmightbe: I love Supes... but he needs better supporting characters.
#41 Posted by joshmightbe (24598 posts) - - Show Bio

@Primmaster64: If they killed Jimmy would anyone care?

#42 Posted by Primmaster64 (21138 posts) - - Show Bio
@joshmightbe: I really wouldn't care if he die. Like I wrote, Supes needs better supporting character.
#43 Posted by Hunter114 (829 posts) - - Show Bio

The Weather Man... and yeah, I'm making reference to the abomination that was the original 1997 TV movie and calling it out on it's complete BS...

But on a serious note, I think that it would be better to go with a team of villains, such as the Legion of Doom rather than just having one, main villain, as opposed to the Avengers movie that has one main villain.

Though that's not part of the criteria, so I would say that should "they" choose to have one main villain, it should be someone who isn't commonly associated with a single character's rogues gallery.

Having looked at a list of JLA villains and then narrowing it down, here is my shortlist:

Starro:

Pros - Starro was the first villain the League faced together, he can control most (if not all) sentient and not sentient lifeforms on any planet

Cons - He's a giant starfish... a STARFISH!! though that has been retconned or something, so that Starros are the alien "starfish" and Starro the Star Conqueror is a humanoid called Cobi that has bonded with the "motherstar" personally, I call BS... but hey.

Amazo:

Pros - Amazo is an equal match for the JLA and has all their powers

Cons - He (or it) is just the heavy muscle, a B or even C list villain, that has no agenda or signs of sentient life, so it can only be used as a weapon, instead of being a "real" villain

Despero:

Pros - Um???

Cons - I honestly don't know much about the character, and that means that the audience at large doesn't know much about the character, he's quite obscure... though, to be honest, I did find myself in the middle of a conversation where people didn't know who Thanos was and were arguing that it was either Galactus or Odin... despite me knowing that it was him straight away (go me!)

Anti Monitor:

Pros - He's probably one of the most powerful villains in the DC universe, so he would be a good match for the JLA, there's already a story in it

Cons - As far as I know, he's indestructible, so the JLA couldn't beat him, he's also another obscure character, despite being in one of the biggest stories in comic history. Another major con to this is that the JLA was much bigger then, and Crisis on Infinite Earths was about the DC Multiverse, and in all fairness, we don't have much of a DC Universe going on in movies at the moment.

Max Lord / Amanda Waller / Checkmate:

Pros - They do play heavy roles in the DC Universe, Checkmate is a well established organisation and people should know a little about them, if not a lot. There is also the possibility for some good plot points

Cons - While there may be some good plot points, there's not going to be much of a plot to them, Lord and Waller have no real goals or aspirations when it comes to power or dominance, just to keep the superheroes in "check" (get it?) so having them essentially create the Justice League would be counter productive, they are supposed to be a reaction, not an action.

Prometheus:

Pros - He has taken on the JLA before and won (for the most part)

Cons - AGAIN! people aren't that aware of the character... and I wasn't that keen on Cry For Justice as the story wasn't that good... and they killed a little girl... plus the story is far too advanced, as far as the timeline is concerned, so I don't think this would work.

Vandal Savage:

Pros - He's at the right level for the JLA, he's smart enough and crazy enough to have the drive to try and take over the world.

Cons - He's indestructible, so they can't really do anything to stop him properly, he may have the drive, but I'm not that sure of a plan that he could implement, that would be "cool" and original-ish or something that would call for the entire JLA to stop him.

DeathStroke:

Pros - He kicks ass, he's been shown to take on the League and defeat them on a few occasions,

Cons - He's essentially a mercenary for hire, he doesn't seem to have that je nais se "OF COURSE" quality to him and he's more of a Teen Titans villain

So in summary, my personal opinion is that the villain should be either a team like the Legion of Doom, or DarkSeid, it just seems better and easier to take that route, but if I had to choose someone else, I'd probably pick Starro... sure, it's stupid and it makes little sense, but they made Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer, so there's still something going for it.

#44 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

@Primmaster64 said:

@Gambit1024 said:

@joshmightbe: Superman's a total rip-off of Moses

And off Hercules and Buck Rogers.

Oh, and John Carter too.

#45 Posted by sethysquare (3843 posts) - - Show Bio
Darkseid. just because marvel's Thanos copied Darkseid doesnt means the next Justice League movie cant use Darkseid
#46 Posted by moywar700 (2775 posts) - - Show Bio

How about anti-monitor? Yes, I know he was a universe buster but we can turn him into a planet buster for the movie.

#47 Posted by TheCannon (17892 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe said:

How about Mongul and he could bring war world with him.

This.

#48 Posted by BigBDawg (263 posts) - - Show Bio

Me, I'd say Mongul, Despero, the White Martians, or Starro.

#49 Posted by sethysquare (3843 posts) - - Show Bio
Ill also suggest Brainiac and Starro.
#50 Edited by Robotman410 (11 posts) - - Show Bio

well the Avengers movie pretty much eliminates Darkseid as a possible movie villain. and i couldnt be more depressed about that. they also cant do the alien invasion thing. so the only option would be to have a team of supervillains oppose the JLA. either the Legion of Doom or some other villain team up.

basically the Avengers movie has made it even more difficult to make a JLA movie than ever before. Marvel has really struck a financial and creative blow that DC may take many years to recover from. by introducing Thanos, they took away DC's opportunity to bring Darkseid to the big screen.

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