The Essential 12

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#1 Edited by Captain13 (3332 posts) - - Show Bio

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#2 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (13207 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow amazingly well written. I can't wait to see your explanations for the others. Maybe you can sell me on Black Lightning.

#3 Edited by BlackArmor (6141 posts) - - Show Bio

The Cyborg his time has come special feature has actually convinced me that he is an essential member but I agree with the first 8 so far and this is very very well written, makes me proud to be a DC fan

#4 Posted by Aero_gt (840 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd replace Atom with Cyborg. Cyborg isn't pron to going all atomic and can link to technology with all mainframes. He also has the connection's with Star Labs. But then again this isn't my list.

#5 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

Love these twelve. Don't change a thing. Put Superman Birthright under his essential reads :)

#6 Posted by BlackArmor (6141 posts) - - Show Bio

@Aero_gt said:

I'd replace Atom with Cyborg. Cyborg isn't pron to going all atomic and can link to technology with all mainframes. He also has the connection's with Star Labs. But then again this isn't my list.

I'd was actually going to replace BL with Cyborg because BL seems to belong with the Outsiders, but I like replacing Atom with him better

#7 Posted by ReVamp (22865 posts) - - Show Bio

I know that this wasn't the purpose, but I felt like I should write the twelve I felt were necessary, if nothing for comparison. In Bold are the Ones we agree.

Your Team:

  1. Superman
  2. Batman
  3. Wonder Woman
  4. Green Lantern
  5. Flash
  6. MM
  7. Aquaman
  8. Green Arrow
  9. Black Canary
  10. Black Lightning
  11. Vixen
  12. Atom
My Team:
  1. Superman
  2. Batman
  3. Wonder Woman
  4. Green Lantern
  5. Flash
  6. MM
  7. Aquaman
  8. Green Arrow
  9. Hawkman
  10. Steel (revamped to include less Superman mythos)
  11. Zatanna
  12. Red Tornado/Zauriel?
#8 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (33495 posts) - - Show Bio

Hawkman should be on the list IMO

#9 Posted by Aero_gt (840 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlackArmor: You team still looks pretty Legit .

1. Superman

2. Batman

3. Wonder Woman

4. Green Lantern

5. Flash

6. Martian Manhunter

7. Cyborg

Founding Members

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8. Zatanna

9. Aquaman

10. Vixen

11. Fire

12. Ice

#10 Edited by BlackArmor (6141 posts) - - Show Bio

@Aero_gt:

Batman

Superman

Wonder Woman

Flash

Green Lantern

Aquaman

Martian Manhunter

Cyborg

Green Arrow

Zatanna

Black Canary

Black Lightning

#11 Posted by Aero_gt (840 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlackArmor: Pretty good list. BL is far too much in Static Shock shadow though. He really needs some story going on for him.

#12 Posted by Mega_spidey01 (3078 posts) - - Show Bio

@Avenging-X-Bolt said:

Wow amazingly well written. I can't wait to see your explanations for the others. Maybe you can sell me on Black Lightning.
#13 Posted by BlackArmor (6141 posts) - - Show Bio

@Aero_gt: Yeah like the OP said Black Lightning year 1 is good but DC never used him to his potential, Static is cool too but just because they have similar powers doesn't mean they can't both be well used at the same time, if worst came to worst I would put them as partners in a well written miniseries to boost both characters popularity

#14 Posted by Adnan (1037 posts) - - Show Bio

Perhaps they should change BL's name if they decide to bring him into the DCnU? Haven't read much of him but he seems cool.

#15 Posted by BlackArmor (6141 posts) - - Show Bio

@Adnan: I would hate him changing is name, it would represent backing down on something that he should never have to back down about

#16 Posted by Aero_gt (840 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe in the DCnU, They can make BL's powers Red like if you chose the bad side in Infamous. He shouldn't be forgotten at all since he's a pretty occuring member in the Jl's extra list.

#17 Posted by BlackArmor (6141 posts) - - Show Bio

@Aero_gt: His Lightning is already black in color which is another reason he shouldn't change his name

#18 Posted by Aero_gt (840 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlackArmor: Cool stuff then. Well just a costume change then. He doesn't need blue an yellow and his costume is pretty styling.

#19 Posted by PowerHerc (84155 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree with character 1 - 9, but I'd drop Black Lightning, Vixen and Atom.

I'd add these three to fill out what I consider the essential 12 Justice Leaguers:

Zatanna

Firestorm

Captain Marvel

#20 Posted by Adnan (1037 posts) - - Show Bio
@BlackArmor: Fair point, I suppose. I still genuinely think it'd largely be seen as simply updating a name which is regarded by many as cheesy/corny in a modern age though.
#21 Edited by BlackArmor (6141 posts) - - Show Bio

@Aero_gt: A costume change couldn't hurt

@Adnan: True enough, but there are a lot more corny names out there that won't be changed and I think Black Lightning as a name needs to be held to the same or greater standards because of what it represents, along with the fact that he actually summons black lightning as opposed to regular lightning.

#22 Edited by Captain13 (3332 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024 said:

Love these twelve. Don't change a thing. Put Superman Birthright under his essential reads :)

Done. =]

@spiderbat87 said:

Hawkman should be on the list IMO

He honestly barely missed the cut on my list. Atom inched him out. But I still really like the character.

I don't plan on changing my list, but I like seeing who everyone thinks should make the cut! Post reasons why you think the list should be different because it will probably make this thread more interesting.

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#23 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (33495 posts) - - Show Bio
@Captain13 said:

@Gambit1024 said:

Love these twelve. Don't change a thing. Put Superman Birthright under his essential reads :)

Done. =]

@spiderbat87 said:

Hawkman should be on the list IMO

He honestly barely missed the cut on my list. Atom inched him out. But I still really like the character.

I don't plan on changing my list, but I like seeing who everyone thinks should make the cut! Post reasons why you think the list should be different because it will probably make this thread more interesting.

Yea I totally agree with your list and I couldn't really justify missing any of them out so the only thing I could think of was to make it 13 and add Hawkman lol
#24 Posted by wrestlgurl (23 posts) - - Show Bio

My 12

1.Superman

2.Batman

3.Hawkman (Katar Hol)

4.Aquaman

5.Captain Marvel (Billy Batson)

6.Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)

7.Flash (Barry Allen)

8.Atom (Ray Palmer)

9.Wonder Woman

10.Martian Manhunter

11.Green Arrow

12.Plastic Man

Silver Age rules!!!

#25 Posted by Captain13 (3332 posts) - - Show Bio

@wrestlgurl said:

My 12

1.Superman

2.Batman

3.Hawkman (Katar Hol)

4.Aquaman

5.Captain Marvel (Billy Batson)

6.Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)

7.Flash (Barry Allen)

8.Atom (Ray Palmer)

9.Wonder Woman

10.Martian Manhunter

11.Green Arrow

12.Plastic Man

Silver Age rules!!!

Why those twelve? Because they're from the Silver Age?

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#26 Posted by garrison12795 (33 posts) - - Show Bio

1. Superman

2. Batman

3. Wonder Woman

4. Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)

5. Flash (Wally West)

6. Aquaman

7. Martian Manhunter

8. Green Arrow (Oliver Queen)

9. Black Canary

10. The Question (Vic Sage)

11. Plastic Man

12. Atom (Ryan Choi)

#27 Posted by The Stegman (24489 posts) - - Show Bio

To me, I don't think anyone should ALWAYS be on the JLA, I like the fact that sometimes they change rosters completely, like the Avengers the team should stay fluid. I actually loved the recent JLA where Grayson was the leader with Supergirl, Jade, etc

#28 Posted by Captain13 (3332 posts) - - Show Bio

@garrison12795: Why those 12?

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#29 Posted by wrestlgurl (23 posts) - - Show Bio

@Captain13: I just think those 12 are the most iconic characters of DC, and I think the JLA should be the most iconic. And yes I do love the silver age DC with the original seven and the first 3 new members. Captain Marvel and Plastic Man were 2 iconic characters from other companies that DC acquired, but I always felt they fit nicely, and Kingdom Come seemed to think so, too.

#30 Posted by Nathaniel_Christopher (1656 posts) - - Show Bio

Legit team. Only change i'd make is replacing Vixen with Zatanna.

#31 Posted by darkrider (450 posts) - - Show Bio

my team is

batman

superman

wonder woman

flash

green lantern

atom

hawkman

green arrow

black canary

nightwing

hawkgirl if she cameback

aquaman

#32 Posted by venomyak (1443 posts) - - Show Bio

@Captain13: Hey on the list you should put which Olympian you compare them too.

Vixen is obviosly Artemis. Flash is Hermes. Wonder Woman is Hera. Green Arrow could be Apollo and thats all I could think of off the top of my head.

#33 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (13207 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomayak:

Green Lantern was actually Apollo, I assume that Captain13's list is similar to Grant Morrison's

#34 Posted by venomyak (1443 posts) - - Show Bio

@Avenging-X-Bolt: I guess that makes some sense, but who would Batman be? Athena mybe?

#35 Edited by Avenging-X-Bolt (13207 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomayak:

Batman was Hades (yeah, I know he wasn't one of the twelve Olympians but he does fit)

Superman-Zeus

Zauriel-Eros

Steel-Hephaestus

Oracle-Athena

Plastic Man-Dionysius

Orion-Ares

Huntress-Artemis

Big Barda-Hestia

#36 Posted by JonesDeini (3620 posts) - - Show Bio

My team would have the original 7 of course and they'd be rounded out by Green Arrow, Captain Atom, Hawk Girl, Dr Fate,& Mr. Terrific,

#37 Edited by Captain13 (3332 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomyak said:

@Captain13: Hey on the list you should put which Olympian you compare them too.

Vixen is obviosly Artemis. Flash is Hermes. Wonder Woman is Hera. Green Arrow could be Apollo and thats all I could think of off the top of my head.

Done. Check out the OP.

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#38 Posted by venomyak (1443 posts) - - Show Bio

@Captain13: Oh I thought it was limited to the twelve olympians but that would be kind of difficult to do.

#39 Posted by The Avenging Angel (52 posts) - - Show Bio

Amazingly well written!! I enjoyed reading this. I couldn't agree with you more about these 12 being the quintessential Justice League; and I really like how you tied their personalities and roles within the team to the Greek Pantheon. Once again, really good article!!

#40 Posted by Captain13 (3332 posts) - - Show Bio

@The Avenging Angel: Thank you for the positive feedback! Much appreciated!

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#41 Posted by herrweis (433 posts) - - Show Bio

my 12 would be

wonder woman

black canary

dr.light

vixen

zatanna

superman

batman

green arrow

aquaman

flash

green lantern

martian manhunter

#42 Posted by Imagine_Man15 (1801 posts) - - Show Bio

Add Zatanna and swap Atom for Mr. Terrific, and you've got yourself a perfect team.

#43 Posted by TheCannon (18812 posts) - - Show Bio

Not a bad list. Here's my 12. It starts at the most important, and works it way down:

1. Batman

2. Wonder Woman

3. Martian Manhunter

4. Aquaman

5. Green Lantern

6. Flash

7. Power Girl

8. Superman

9. Black Canary

10. Green Arrow

11. Zatanna

12. Red Tornado

#44 Posted by Onemoreposter (4058 posts) - - Show Bio

Clark Kent

Bruce Wayne

Wally West

Kyle Rayner

John Jones

Diana Prince

Orin

Red Tornado

Ray Palmer

Katar Hol

John Henry Irons

Ronnie Raymond and Martin Stein

#45 Posted by Superdork (917 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think that the OP was asking for people to post lists of 12 Justice Leaguers. It was more of a celebration of the twelve that he/she chose.

#46 Posted by TheCannon (18812 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheCannon said:

Not a bad list. Here's my 12. It starts at the most important, and works it way down:

1. Batman

2. Wonder Woman

3. Martian Manhunter

4. Aquaman

5. Green Lantern

6. Flash

7. Power Girl

8. Superman

9. Black Canary

10. Green Arrow

11. Zatanna

12. Red Tornado

I realized a major mistake I made. I have to change it.

1. Wonder Woman

2. Power Girl

3. Batman

4. Martian Manhunter

5. Green Lantern

6. Aquaman

7. Flash

8. Black Canary

9. Zatanna

10. Superman

11. Green Arrow

12. Red Tornado

#47 Edited by Zeeguy91 (1109 posts) - - Show Bio
  • Superman
  • Batman (Bruce Wayne)
  • Wonder Woman
  • Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)
  • The Flash (Barry Allen)
  • Cyborg (What can I say? I like him on the League)
  • Aquaman
  • Dr. Fate
  • Green Arrow/Arsenal (aka Red Arrow)
  • Black Canary
  • Atom (Ray Palmer)
  • Red Tornado

Possible Alternates:

  • Captain Marvel
  • Zatanna
  • Martian Manhunter
  • Hawkman
  • Hawkgirl
  • Firestorm
  • Animal Man (I always thought he'd make a good fit for the League)
  • Vixen (either Animal Man or her)
  • Captain Atom
  • Question
  • Supergirl
#48 Posted by TAneT62 (1060 posts) - - Show Bio

Love this list, nothing wrong with it. Loving how it goes from the big 3 (superman, batman and wonderwoman) to the rest.

#49 Posted by TAneT62 (1060 posts) - - Show Bio

The big 3 should always be in the top 3 places.

Batman

Wonderwoman

Superman

then the list goes on, though wheres hawkgirl, isnt she part of the league?...

#50 Posted by Skaddix (3114 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, A Flash, A Green Lantern, Aquaman

Dr Light, Black Lightning, Vixen, Green Arrow, Cyborg, Zatanna

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