New Superman, Batman & Justice League Movie Rumors

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#101 Posted by baron2011 (1151 posts) - - Show Bio

@MuyJingo said:

@Smart_Dork_Dude said:

Bale back as Batman? Fine, but I'm more worried about the glaring tone shift!!!! I mean, there were no superpowers in Nolan's Bat-verse!!! They even made a parody of what would happen if Superman showed up in Nolan's universe!!

This has always been a silly argument. Just because powers or other heroes are not seen or even alluded to in the bale batman movies does not mean they don't exist. Look at it this way, there are plenty of batman stories that don't mention other heroes, don't have anything unrealistic in them....they just have batman solving a mystery...all humans. It doesn't mean the more fantastical stuff ceases to exist....it's just irrelevant to the story being told.

That said...I do not want Bale back as Batman and I definitely don't want Nolan in charge of the Cinematic DCU.

I don't want characters who are nothing like there comic book counterparts, immersed in a world that is like ours in terms of realism, and yet somehow more ridiculous in what is allowed to transpire. I want a Batman who is a detective, wearing the grey, working with the other heroes to combat a greater threat.

Can you imagine a Nolanized Green Lantern or Flash? Ugh!

would be great IMO

#102 Posted by feargalr (1153 posts) - - Show Bio

Ahhhh no....

#103 Posted by S7Works (11 posts) - - Show Bio

We shall see...

#104 Posted by sketchman33 (7 posts) - - Show Bio

im not looking forward to this mess. nolan did his take on batman, it was good as a stand alone series. but the justice league deserves a batman that has one of the true robin's for one, and two, doesnt drive a flying tank. i may be hated by the masses here but i personally didnt enjoy nolans series as a whole, namely due to the cluster f... that was rises

#105 Posted by fodigg (6146 posts) - - Show Bio

Let Bale be done. If you're going to continue the Nolanverse Batman, it should be JGL in the suit as a sort Grayson-esque Batman. If you're going to ignore the continuity of the Nolanverse Batman, then you should just cast someone new to avoid confusion.

#106 Posted by Captain13 (3260 posts) - - Show Bio

Why the Justice League doesn't fit before, during, or after TDKR:

"Before" doesn't work because in Nolan's realistic world there would be no reason Flash or Superman wouldn't interfere in Gotham while the Joker was terrorizing citizens. I would really doubt that they have a mission taking up the entire week. And if they did, it would be all over the news as to why. This is not the comics.

"During" TDKR makes no sense because Gotham was held hostage for MONTHS and the Justice League heroes did nothing, okay... Real wonderful heroes.

"After" doesn't work because Bruce has nothing left of a knee, no fortune, a revealed identity, and no base of operations. He's moved past being Batman, so Alfred would be pissed if he became Batman again. Not to mention, nothing he does is superhuman. If the Justice League needs help from mortal men, they would sooner ask the CIA or a swat team if we are keeping this realistic. Flash doesn't consider himslef a vigilante and would not want to be with someone accused of murder. And I don't see a team with Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter, Aquaman, and Cyborg needing Batman's help in the real world.

PS: Did you see the part of TDKR when JGL was ambushed multiple times and was totally incompetent in combat. He has no training. It would take him 8 years of training at least to get on Bruce's level.

And Bruce Wayne Batman is too battered to be of any use to anyone. Batman needs a reboot.

#107 Posted by Lvenger (18316 posts) - - Show Bio
@Captain13 said:


                   

Why the Justice League doesn't fit before, during, or after TDKR:

"Before" doesn't work because in Nolan's realistic world there would be no reason Flash or Superman wouldn't interfere in Gotham while the Joker was terrorizing citizens. I would really doubt that they have a mission taking up the entire week. And if they did, it would be all over the news as to why. This is not the comics.

"During" TDKR makes no sense because Gotham was held hostage for MONTHS and the Justice League heroes did nothing, okay... Real wonderful heroes.

"After" doesn't work because Bruce has nothing left of a knee, no fortune, a revealed identity, and no base of operations. He's moved past being Batman, so Alfred would be pissed if he became Batman again. Not to mention, nothing he does is superhuman. If the Justice League needs help from mortal men, they would sooner ask the CIA or a swat team if we are keeping this realistic. Flash doesn't consider himslef a vigilante and would not want to be with someone accused of murder. And I don't see a team with Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter, Aquaman, and Cyborg needing Batman's help in the real world.

PS: Did you see the part of TDKR when JGL was ambushed multiple times and was totally incompetent in combat. He has no training. It would take him 8 years of training at least to get on Bruce's level.

And Bruce Wayne Batman is too battered to be of any use to anyone. Batman needs a reboot.



                   

               

This amongst other posts sums up why a Nolanized Justice League film is not a good idea. JGL would not be a good Batman and it baffles me as to why Bruce picked him to be his replacement. Besides Nolan and Bale's return would diminish the Batman trilogy which is something the Nolan fans are majorly overlooking. I liked the first 2 films but Nolan is overrated IMO and TDKR was mediocricity at its finest. But I digress, WB need to pick someone who can give the Justice League film a suitable flair to make it original and different to The Avengers.
#108 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

Never thought I'd say it, but I'm with Captain13 110%.

#109 Posted by BlackShadowCat (21 posts) - - Show Bio

I didn't enjoy the Batman movies because of Christian Bale, I liked them because of everyone else in them! Heath Ledger overshadowed him in "The Dark Knight" and Anne Hathaway and Tom Hardy over shadowed him in "The Dark Knight Rises". I found him as Batman to be boring :P So yeah, he isn't necessary for the Justice League, in fact, it should be a separate movie instead of copying The Avengers. :/

#110 Posted by AlexMarks (12 posts) - - Show Bio

Just give me my Justice League movie and I'll be happy.

#111 Posted by RoastedRay (43 posts) - - Show Bio

Do not want. I'm ok with a Superman/Batman movie but I don't want Bale back it would ruin the already average ending of TDKR. Plus I'm getting tired of gritty/dark re boots. I just think Nolan should move on from super heroes TDK was amazing but everything else was incredibly average also Bale batman voice needs to never come back.

#112 Posted by Stormbox (2001 posts) - - Show Bio

@Twentyfive said:

WB. Tsk, tsk.

Fixed

#113 Posted by StrangeMan (407 posts) - - Show Bio

Fine, as long as the next Bane can use Venom and Joker doesn't use make up, I'm fine.

Oh, and as long as not EVERY movie is a freaking melodrama, I mean, a Batman movie should be dark, but a Flash or GL movie should be more energetic and lighthearted, I don't want all my heroes to go through an existential crisis.

#114 Posted by SaintG (66 posts) - - Show Bio

This probably will happen I mean why reboot batman after 3 amazing movies and christian bale great actor, chris nolan zach snyder awesome hope it happens. One of the best news I've heard so far about the movie.

#115 Posted by JamDamage (1109 posts) - - Show Bio

These Latino's start a lot of shit, but how often are they correct? That's an actual question.

#116 Posted by Bobsjonjon (223 posts) - - Show Bio

Please No Mo Bale! I can't take the mad screaming whisperer Any Mo!!!!!!!!!

#117 Posted by DEGRAAF (7870 posts) - - Show Bio

I have never wanted a rumor to be more true!!!!! I know it might not work and i know it might flop but this seems like the most detail and thought put in to the JLA movie if it were true.

I would still like to see a Batman/ Superman movie

#118 Posted by Lvenger (18316 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024 said:

Never thought I'd say it, but I'm with Captain13 110%.

Heh sounds strange doesn't it? :P

#119 Posted by Rumble Man (11119 posts) - - Show Bio

This is bad because the idea sounds good enough to compete with the avengers

SHUT IT DOWN

but in fairness it can be done well

#120 Posted by SHTR (110 posts) - - Show Bio

Most of this sounds great, but I really don't want to see Bale as Batman again. Like many others have said, the Nolan trilogy doesn't work as part of a universe that contains the Justice League as well.

#121 Posted by modunhanul (403 posts) - - Show Bio

Everything will be decided when Man of Steel came out.

#122 Posted by PopRock123 (101 posts) - - Show Bio

Im ok with this happening their a reason that TDK and TDKR have been getting great review but If this does happen I hope Nolan does not make a justice league movie to realistic.

#123 Posted by TheHeat (450 posts) - - Show Bio

El Mayimbe isn't really trustworthy. I feel sorry for anyone who actually believes this.

#124 Posted by darkman61288 (720 posts) - - Show Bio

A interesting story if its Bruces kids with Selina in the league. Daiman as Batman and Helena as Huntress.

#125 Posted by Onemoreposter (3938 posts) - - Show Bio

Please, no more Bale.

#126 Posted by SHAZAM117 (2623 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm taking this with a grain of salt. Though I have no problems with this, I'm REALLY skepitcal this is true or will actually happen.

#127 Posted by phillywonka (14 posts) - - Show Bio

@Captain13: Word up man!

#128 Posted by Twentyfive (2843 posts) - - Show Bio

@Stormbox said:

@Twentyfive said:

WB. Tsk, tsk.

Fixed

Word!

#129 Posted by Stormbox (2001 posts) - - Show Bio

@Twentyfive said:

@Stormbox said:

@Twentyfive said:

WB. Tsk, tsk.

Fixed

Word!

No kidding, those guys suck

People complain about disney buying everything but i wouldnt mind them owning dc if that meant no more sh!tty movies

#130 Posted by Trixie (121 posts) - - Show Bio

Nooo! Nolan and Bale need to stay away from this! I'm so sick of them, they suck.

#131 Posted by MuyJingo (1553 posts) - - Show Bio

@baron2011 said:

an you imagine a Nolanized Green Lantern or Flash? Ugh!

would be great IMO

Then you lack foresight.

#132 Posted by MrNoFear (4 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes to Nolan Godfathering the DCMU. Yes to Snyder directing the JL movie. NO to Bale. Why? Because the minute I see Batman Growling at the rest of the league, that's the minute I loose my Sh!t and piss my pants.

Gina Carano as Wonder Woman

Alex O’ Loughlin as Batman (FTW)!!!

Philip Winchester as Aquaman

David Giuntoli as Green Lantern: Hal Jordan

Ryan Gosling as Barry Allen: The Flash

Henry simmons as J’onn J’onzz / Martain Manhunter

#133 Posted by lilben42 (2498 posts) - - Show Bio

@Stormbox: Then the tv shows aren't as good and movies aren't serious and intense anymore.

#134 Edited by kapitein_zeppos (341 posts) - - Show Bio

You want to see Kung Fu Batman who was hardly competent to beat up a few thugs ? Athletic Batman who could barely make it from one roof to another. Detective Batman who was constantly running after the facts and Planning ahead Batman being played like a sucker by every bad guy he came across ? The crybaby Batman who quit when his girlfriend got whacked ? And you want that BINO to go toe to toe with the likes of Sinestro, Darkseid, Monarch or the Anti Monitor ? Or does Nolan plan to make even more baroque and convoluted street level mega villains whose plans only work in a carefully scripted film ?

I have a feeling JLA will bomb and DC will run back crying with nose full of snot to square one and crank out more Batman films, while the rest of their portfolio languishes. I bet they will even blame us, the public for "not getting it".

The Nolan films are ok in their own right, but I seriously doubt you can wrench his Batman into a greater DC continuity, you need a far greater Batman than the barely competent street level Batman we got from him.

#135 Edited by lilben42 (2498 posts) - - Show Bio

@kapitein_zeppos: I don't want Bale involved just because I heard the Batman reboot was going to be more like Arkham games and I was excited if it was true. But the public knows Bale and loves him they would get alot of money for just putting him in there. They can make Batman train harder because everyone just figured out they're superhumans out there. Or something.

#136 Posted by GR2Blackout (2564 posts) - - Show Bio

Like that's ever gonna happen....

Oh my Jor-El.... did I just say that? [dies inside]

#137 Posted by Stormbox (2001 posts) - - Show Bio

@lilben42: Smallville was crap and arrow is average at best. We havent seen shield yet, although i already have the feeling it will be better than arrow

The only "serious and intense" dc movies wb has ever produced are the batman movies, everything else has been downright goofy. Man of steel looks like the exception but thats because of nolan, not wb. Same can be said about the aforementioned batman movies

#138 Posted by FatihBATMAN (1389 posts) - - Show Bio

@SHTR said:

Most of this sounds great, but I really don't want to see Bale as Batman again. Like many others have said, the Nolan trilogy doesn't work as part of a universe that contains the Justice League as well.

partly agree, Bale could reprise his role though :D?

#139 Posted by lilben42 (2498 posts) - - Show Bio

@Stormbox: Smallville was interesting and Arrow has its episodes. It seems that WB is going for serious nowadays. JL/JLU, Static Shock, Teen Titans, Batman: TAS and Superman:TAS etc... were all great shows, if Disney was in charge, it would have been way to kiddish for me to watch as a kid, and it wouldn't habe the same feel. Oh yeah and the video games wouldn't be as good either. WB hasn't really made alot of DC movies so you can't really judge compared to Marvel. Sure the movies might be good but everything else wouldn't be and WB seems to be taking DC more seriously now I don't think they will make the same mistakes. Especially if these rumors of Nolan overseeing everything are true. I wouldn't say because of Nolan, Zack and David G. usually have serious movies.

#140 Posted by yo_yo_fun (641 posts) - - Show Bio

This has made my day!!! :))))

The DC movies would be in great hands if they gave it to Christopher Nolan!

I think Mr. Nolan's vision would work w/ a Justice League movie; it's not about making them "realistic", u cannot make superheroes realistic because at the end of the day it's still about a guy who flies around in spandex and cape. What Mr. Nolan did w/ the Dark Knight Trilogy was to make Gotham feel real, a city u can believe is real, the characters are more grounded but that does not make it realistic.

I believe Justice League needs to separate themselves from the Avengers for it to be taken more seriously and not just a copycat.

I hope it's true!

#141 Posted by Stormbox (2001 posts) - - Show Bio

@lilben42: Smallville wasnt interesting, it was crap. Superman fights all his villains and meets virtually every hero of dc (except for those three...) before becoming superman, wtf

Arrow is a series with crappy actors and mediocre writing

What do you mean "not as many movies"? These are all of warner bros f*ck ups:

  • Supergirl
  • Superman iii
  • Superman iv
  • Superman lives (never came out but god was that horrible)
  • Batman forever
  • Batman and robin
  • Steel
  • Catwoman
  • Superman returns (debatable but most of the audience didnt approve)
  • Jonah hex
  • Green lantern

Also, the batman vs superman movie sounded like sh!t too

I guess you have a point with the cartoon argument, but cartoons clearly havent made dc more popular than marvel, movies still are the mainstream entertainment media

And about videogames, well...

  • All the marvel vs capcom games (dont like them but they are popular)
  • X-men legends
  • X-men legends ii
  • Ultimate spider-man
  • Hulk ultimate destruction
  • Spider-man 2
  • Marvel ultimate alliance
  • X-men origins wolverine
  • Spider-man shattered dimensions
  • The amazing spider-man
#142 Posted by kapitein_zeppos (341 posts) - - Show Bio

@lilben42: Nolan Batman worked fine in his own movie series, but I think it's time we got another Batman if they want to do a JLA film. I'm fine with an Arkham Batman. I want to see the athletic, master detective Batman who is really larger than life, not BaleBat who couldn't find a clue if it was nailed to his forehead.

#143 Posted by Black_Claw (2888 posts) - - Show Bio

If anything I want a Batman that can actually do some martial arts. Seriously, we're talking about a guy who has pushed his body to it's physical peak and has mastered damn near every form of Martial arts known to man and I have yet to see a film that has Batman doing some honest to god Martial Arts.

#144 Posted by lilben42 (2498 posts) - - Show Bio

@Stormbox: I'm talking about in the 2000s. Most of those weren't anything special. The Amazing Spiderman was so boring and annoying. Most of those don't even compare to DCs video games. Movies are still mainstream but I would rather have 5 amazing tv shows then 5 great movies. If WB just put DC in charge of movies they would be so much better. We all have our opinion on tv shows and people like Arrow and Smallville. When WB does make a great movie it becomes legendary. WB I think takes to much risks.

#145 Edited by lilben42 (2498 posts) - - Show Bio

@kapitein_zeppos: Batman really wouldn't help the JL if they are using Bale. He doesn't make his own stuff, he isn't as smart, he isn't really as of a strategist, his weapons suck but he could fund for the watchtower.

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