Justice League gets new script?

#1 Edited by lilben42 (2544 posts) - - Show Bio

There is a rumor that WB tossed out Will Beals script. Apparently the script is horrible and that the quality of the screenplay is why they couldn't get a good director. Which means different plot, different characters, hopefully they go with the original team. Read it here http://collider.com/justice-league-movie-script-scrapped-will-beall/

I think this is a good thing most likely, JL movie will probably be pushed back and a new and probably better writer.

#2 Posted by Black_Claw (2989 posts) - - Show Bio

Good, Gangster Squad was horrible and I can't imagine how Will Beals script would ruin this movie.

#3 Edited by lilben42 (2544 posts) - - Show Bio

@Black_Claw: I know for some reasom WB wanted to go with Will Beall i mean he has no experience. David Goyer is the way to go.

#4 Posted by UltimateSMfan (1416 posts) - - Show Bio

weve only seen goyer's batman,yet to see how he handled superman only after man of steel can we begin to guess wat type of JUSTICE LEAGUE movie he'd be able to write otherwise have a team of david goyer and any other writer who knos comics or reads them and loves them....Avengers was A-mazing...frgt the lead upto it iv met ppl who've not even seen the other marvel movies but they loved the avengers, The JL movie has huge potential they just need a good story.

#5 Posted by OutlawRenegade (1251 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm sad that I have to wait longer for a Justice League movie, but I'm happy to know that the movie isn't guaranteed to be ****

#6 Edited by OutlawRenegade (1251 posts) - - Show Bio

@lilben42 said:

@Black_Claw: I know for some reasom WB wanted to go with Will Beall i mean he has no experience. David Goyer is the way to go.

Yeah, especially since Man of Steel was Goyer's idea. He needs to be involved in Justice League! Just make it a direct sequel to Man of Steel.

#7 Posted by Lvenger (20039 posts) - - Show Bio

Good. The last thing I want is a rushed, awful final product rather than a pushed back, better film. WB can take all the time they need as long as the Justice League film is good.

#8 Posted by Markus_Langbourn (387 posts) - - Show Bio
@Lvenger said:

Good. The last thing I want is a rushed, awful final product rather than a pushed back, better film. WB can take all the time they need as long as the Justice League film is good.

Agreed. 
 
Not to mention the idea of bringing the New Gods in was just insane.
#9 Posted by Lvenger (20039 posts) - - Show Bio

@Markus_Langbourn said:

@Lvenger said:

Good. The last thing I want is a rushed, awful final product rather than a pushed back, better film. WB can take all the time they need as long as the Justice League film is good.

Agreed. Not to mention the idea of bringing the New Gods in was just insane.

It's no wonder given that this is the guy who wrote Gangsta Squad. That film plain sucked.

#10 Posted by Markus_Langbourn (387 posts) - - Show Bio
@Lvenger said:

@Markus_Langbourn said:

@Lvenger said:

Good. The last thing I want is a rushed, awful final product rather than a pushed back, better film. WB can take all the time they need as long as the Justice League film is good.

Agreed. Not to mention the idea of bringing the New Gods in was just insane.

It's no wonder given that this is the guy who wrote Gangsta Squad. That film plain sucked.

Never saw it. Sean Penn and the title meant a no-go for me :P 
 
Honestly, I still think taking a cue from Morrison and the animated series is best. White Martians. Not only do you get an easy intro with Martian Manhunter that way, but it allows for anyone else to arrive to save the Earth as well. 
 
No one really needs to see an origin for Wonder Woman, Flash or GL (since GL got one with the movie, canon or not, everyone knows the origin now), so just bringing them in as established heroes couldn't really hurt.
#11 Posted by Lvenger (20039 posts) - - Show Bio

@Markus_Langbourn said:

@Lvenger said:

@Markus_Langbourn said:

@Lvenger said:

Good. The last thing I want is a rushed, awful final product rather than a pushed back, better film. WB can take all the time they need as long as the Justice League film is good.

Agreed. Not to mention the idea of bringing the New Gods in was just insane.

It's no wonder given that this is the guy who wrote Gangsta Squad. That film plain sucked.

Never saw it. Sean Penn and the title meant a no-go for me :P Honestly, I still think taking a cue from Morrison and the animated series is best. White Martians. Not only do you get an easy intro with Martian Manhunter that way, but it allows for anyone else to arrive to save the Earth as well. No one really needs to see an origin for Wonder Woman, Flash or GL (since GL got one with the movie, canon or not, everyone knows the origin now), so just bringing them in as established heroes couldn't really hurt.

My main concern is how they introduce all the other characters like WW, Flash and GL. If they can't do solo films they have to encapsulate these characters' early days quickly in a film. As for MM, don't get me wrong I love the character and the White Martians story (comic book and animated form) but MM would be a tad overkill. I mean the guy's even more powerful than Superman and to the untrained eye of the non comic book fan will mostly be the same character. I'd be fine with just an MM cameo at the end.

#12 Edited by Markus_Langbourn (387 posts) - - Show Bio
@Lvenger said:

@Markus_Langbourn said:

@Lvenger said:

@Markus_Langbourn said:

@Lvenger said:

Good. The last thing I want is a rushed, awful final product rather than a pushed back, better film. WB can take all the time they need as long as the Justice League film is good.

Agreed. Not to mention the idea of bringing the New Gods in was just insane.

It's no wonder given that this is the guy who wrote Gangsta Squad. That film plain sucked.

Never saw it. Sean Penn and the title meant a no-go for me :P Honestly, I still think taking a cue from Morrison and the animated series is best. White Martians. Not only do you get an easy intro with Martian Manhunter that way, but it allows for anyone else to arrive to save the Earth as well. No one really needs to see an origin for Wonder Woman, Flash or GL (since GL got one with the movie, canon or not, everyone knows the origin now), so just bringing them in as established heroes couldn't really hurt.

My main concern is how they introduce all the other characters like WW, Flash and GL. If they can't do solo films they have to encapsulate these characters' early days quickly in a film. As for MM, don't get me wrong I love the character and the White Martians story (comic book and animated form) but MM would be a tad overkill. I mean the guy's even more powerful than Superman and to the untrained eye of the non comic book fan will mostly be the same character. I'd be fine with just an MM cameo at the end.

Understandable concerns, and I too agree that the Big Five would be ideal, the trouble is finding a threat for them. Most of Marvel's villains are fairly self-contained. Origin+Foe+Goal. But DC's tend to share their own mythology, the bigger ones at least. So it becomes Origin+LORE+Foe+Goal. DC lack a generic faceless entity like the Chitauri/Skrull to fight. An Injustice Gang would be too tough to pull off in a film, and short of Sinestro (and I imagine they'd want to distance themselves from the GL failure), they don't really have any established villains who could show up and pose a threat. Having 6 Superman films with a grand total of two big villains has really shot them in the foot, sadly. Not to have a go at Superman or even the films themselves, it's not their fault. 
 
The other option is a Justice Lords scenario with a mirrorverse invading. Not sure the actors would love that though.
#13 Posted by Lvenger (20039 posts) - - Show Bio

@Markus_Langbourn said:

@Lvenger said:

@Markus_Langbourn said:

@Lvenger said:

@Markus_Langbourn said:

@Lvenger said:

Good. The last thing I want is a rushed, awful final product rather than a pushed back, better film. WB can take all the time they need as long as the Justice League film is good.

Agreed. Not to mention the idea of bringing the New Gods in was just insane.

It's no wonder given that this is the guy who wrote Gangsta Squad. That film plain sucked.

Never saw it. Sean Penn and the title meant a no-go for me :P Honestly, I still think taking a cue from Morrison and the animated series is best. White Martians. Not only do you get an easy intro with Martian Manhunter that way, but it allows for anyone else to arrive to save the Earth as well. No one really needs to see an origin for Wonder Woman, Flash or GL (since GL got one with the movie, canon or not, everyone knows the origin now), so just bringing them in as established heroes couldn't really hurt.

My main concern is how they introduce all the other characters like WW, Flash and GL. If they can't do solo films they have to encapsulate these characters' early days quickly in a film. As for MM, don't get me wrong I love the character and the White Martians story (comic book and animated form) but MM would be a tad overkill. I mean the guy's even more powerful than Superman and to the untrained eye of the non comic book fan will mostly be the same character. I'd be fine with just an MM cameo at the end.

Understandable concerns, and I too agree that the Big Five would be ideal, the trouble is finding a threat for them. Most of Marvel's villains are fairly self-contained. Origin+Foe+Goal. But DC's tend to share their own mythology, the bigger ones at least. So it becomes Origin+LORE+Foe+Goal. DC lack a generic faceless entity like the Chitauri/Skrull to fight. An Injustice Gang would be too tough to pull off in a film, and short of Sinestro (and I imagine they'd want to distance themselves from the GL failure), they don't really have any established villains who could show up and pose a threat. Having 6 Superman films with a grand total of two big villains has really shot them in the foot, sadly. Not to have a go at Superman or even the films themselves, it's not their fault. The other option is a Justice Lords scenario with a mirrorverse invading. Not sure the actors would love that though.

All excellent points made though it might be a tad cliched for the actors to play evil versions of themselves rather than face a common threat. The only problem is what could cause that. DC have better cosmic villains than Marvel IMO but in light of the Avengers, it may seem like cheating to follow in Marvel's path. But then again what earth based threat could unit the JLA?

#14 Posted by Reignmaker (2235 posts) - - Show Bio

If this was tied to that half-baked, retro new-gods idea, I'm glad it's dead. Normal movie-goers would never accept that sh** as an opening movie.

#15 Posted by Markus_Langbourn (387 posts) - - Show Bio
@Lvenger said:

@Markus_Langbourn said:

@Lvenger said:

@Markus_Langbourn said:

@Lvenger said:

@Markus_Langbourn said:

@Lvenger said:

Good. The last thing I want is a rushed, awful final product rather than a pushed back, better film. WB can take all the time they need as long as the Justice League film is good.

Agreed. Not to mention the idea of bringing the New Gods in was just insane.

It's no wonder given that this is the guy who wrote Gangsta Squad. That film plain sucked.

Never saw it. Sean Penn and the title meant a no-go for me :P Honestly, I still think taking a cue from Morrison and the animated series is best. White Martians. Not only do you get an easy intro with Martian Manhunter that way, but it allows for anyone else to arrive to save the Earth as well. No one really needs to see an origin for Wonder Woman, Flash or GL (since GL got one with the movie, canon or not, everyone knows the origin now), so just bringing them in as established heroes couldn't really hurt.

My main concern is how they introduce all the other characters like WW, Flash and GL. If they can't do solo films they have to encapsulate these characters' early days quickly in a film. As for MM, don't get me wrong I love the character and the White Martians story (comic book and animated form) but MM would be a tad overkill. I mean the guy's even more powerful than Superman and to the untrained eye of the non comic book fan will mostly be the same character. I'd be fine with just an MM cameo at the end.

Understandable concerns, and I too agree that the Big Five would be ideal, the trouble is finding a threat for them. Most of Marvel's villains are fairly self-contained. Origin+Foe+Goal. But DC's tend to share their own mythology, the bigger ones at least. So it becomes Origin+LORE+Foe+Goal. DC lack a generic faceless entity like the Chitauri/Skrull to fight. An Injustice Gang would be too tough to pull off in a film, and short of Sinestro (and I imagine they'd want to distance themselves from the GL failure), they don't really have any established villains who could show up and pose a threat. Having 6 Superman films with a grand total of two big villains has really shot them in the foot, sadly. Not to have a go at Superman or even the films themselves, it's not their fault. The other option is a Justice Lords scenario with a mirrorverse invading. Not sure the actors would love that though.

All excellent points made though it might be a tad cliched for the actors to play evil versions of themselves rather than face a common threat. The only problem is what could cause that. DC have better cosmic villains than Marvel IMO but in light of the Avengers, it may seem like cheating to follow in Marvel's path. But then again what earth based threat could unit the JLA?

Oh, I agree completely that a big, common threat is preferable to mirrorverse bad guys, I'm just struggling to think of someone big enough. Superman's villains either fit in the "have lots of back story" area (Brainiac, Darkseid, Imperiex) or just not tough enough to be a threat to more than just Supes (Parasite, Kryptonite Man, Livewire). Honestly, the only villain that I can really think of is Mongul. 
 
Though Thanos looks even more like Mongul than he does Darkseid, so if Marvel get in first, then the comparisons will not bode well for DC from the general public.
#16 Posted by Aiden Cross (15569 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger said:

Good. The last thing I want is a rushed, awful final product rather than a pushed back, better film. WB can take all the time they need as long as the Justice League film is good.

Same here. Take all the time you need, just don't mess it up :O Though you can never make everyone happy

#17 Posted by Lvenger (20039 posts) - - Show Bio

@Markus_Langbourn said:

@Lvenger said:

@Markus_Langbourn said:

@Lvenger said:

@Markus_Langbourn said:

@Lvenger said:

@Markus_Langbourn said:

@Lvenger said:

Good. The last thing I want is a rushed, awful final product rather than a pushed back, better film. WB can take all the time they need as long as the Justice League film is good.

Agreed. Not to mention the idea of bringing the New Gods in was just insane.

It's no wonder given that this is the guy who wrote Gangsta Squad. That film plain sucked.

Never saw it. Sean Penn and the title meant a no-go for me :P Honestly, I still think taking a cue from Morrison and the animated series is best. White Martians. Not only do you get an easy intro with Martian Manhunter that way, but it allows for anyone else to arrive to save the Earth as well. No one really needs to see an origin for Wonder Woman, Flash or GL (since GL got one with the movie, canon or not, everyone knows the origin now), so just bringing them in as established heroes couldn't really hurt.

My main concern is how they introduce all the other characters like WW, Flash and GL. If they can't do solo films they have to encapsulate these characters' early days quickly in a film. As for MM, don't get me wrong I love the character and the White Martians story (comic book and animated form) but MM would be a tad overkill. I mean the guy's even more powerful than Superman and to the untrained eye of the non comic book fan will mostly be the same character. I'd be fine with just an MM cameo at the end.

Understandable concerns, and I too agree that the Big Five would be ideal, the trouble is finding a threat for them. Most of Marvel's villains are fairly self-contained. Origin+Foe+Goal. But DC's tend to share their own mythology, the bigger ones at least. So it becomes Origin+LORE+Foe+Goal. DC lack a generic faceless entity like the Chitauri/Skrull to fight. An Injustice Gang would be too tough to pull off in a film, and short of Sinestro (and I imagine they'd want to distance themselves from the GL failure), they don't really have any established villains who could show up and pose a threat. Having 6 Superman films with a grand total of two big villains has really shot them in the foot, sadly. Not to have a go at Superman or even the films themselves, it's not their fault. The other option is a Justice Lords scenario with a mirrorverse invading. Not sure the actors would love that though.

All excellent points made though it might be a tad cliched for the actors to play evil versions of themselves rather than face a common threat. The only problem is what could cause that. DC have better cosmic villains than Marvel IMO but in light of the Avengers, it may seem like cheating to follow in Marvel's path. But then again what earth based threat could unit the JLA?

Oh, I agree completely that a big, common threat is preferable to mirrorverse bad guys, I'm just struggling to think of someone big enough. Superman's villains either fit in the "have lots of back story" area (Brainiac, Darkseid, Imperiex) or just not tough enough to be a threat to more than just Supes (Parasite, Kryptonite Man, Livewire). Honestly, the only villain that I can really think of is Mongul. Though Thanos looks even more like Mongul than he does Darkseid, so if Marvel get in first, then the comparisons will not bode well for DC from the general public.

Too true. Maybe Felix Faust, Doctor Destiny or Vandal Savage might make a feasible replacement villain.

#18 Posted by lilben42 (2544 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger: I don't know about Doctor Destiny. I say Braniac and Amazo. Braniacs back story is easy to tell. With Amazo you could say Braniac has been studying Earths greatest heroes to make Amazo.

#19 Posted by Lvenger (20039 posts) - - Show Bio

@lilben42: Eh Brainiac is more of a Superman villain to me though I can see how he can be generalised to make a threat for the Justice League. I'd prefer a more traditional League villain though.

#20 Posted by Captain13 (3332 posts) - - Show Bio

@Markus_Langbourn said:

@Lvenger said:

@Markus_Langbourn said:

@Lvenger said:

@Markus_Langbourn said:

@Lvenger said:

Good. The last thing I want is a rushed, awful final product rather than a pushed back, better film. WB can take all the time they need as long as the Justice League film is good.

Agreed. Not to mention the idea of bringing the New Gods in was just insane.

It's no wonder given that this is the guy who wrote Gangsta Squad. That film plain sucked.

Never saw it. Sean Penn and the title meant a no-go for me :P Honestly, I still think taking a cue from Morrison and the animated series is best. White Martians. Not only do you get an easy intro with Martian Manhunter that way, but it allows for anyone else to arrive to save the Earth as well. No one really needs to see an origin for Wonder Woman, Flash or GL (since GL got one with the movie, canon or not, everyone knows the origin now), so just bringing them in as established heroes couldn't really hurt.

My main concern is how they introduce all the other characters like WW, Flash and GL. If they can't do solo films they have to encapsulate these characters' early days quickly in a film. As for MM, don't get me wrong I love the character and the White Martians story (comic book and animated form) but MM would be a tad overkill. I mean the guy's even more powerful than Superman and to the untrained eye of the non comic book fan will mostly be the same character. I'd be fine with just an MM cameo at the end.

Understandable concerns, and I too agree that the Big Five would be ideal, the trouble is finding a threat for them. Most of Marvel's villains are fairly self-contained. Origin+Foe+Goal. But DC's tend to share their own mythology, the bigger ones at least. So it becomes Origin+LORE+Foe+Goal. DC lack a generic faceless entity like the Chitauri/Skrull to fight. An Injustice Gang would be too tough to pull off in a film, and short of Sinestro (and I imagine they'd want to distance themselves from the GL failure), they don't really have any established villains who could show up and pose a threat. Having 6 Superman films with a grand total of two big villains has really shot them in the foot, sadly. Not to have a go at Superman or even the films themselves, it's not their fault. The other option is a Justice Lords scenario with a mirrorverse invading. Not sure the actors would love that though.

How about this?

#21 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4530 posts) - - Show Bio

I hope they work this out fast!

#22 Posted by judasnixon (6586 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe they can get Mark Millar to write a Script...... 

#23 Posted by FatihBATMAN (1389 posts) - - Show Bio

Good, dont rush that ish...

#24 Posted by lilben42 (2544 posts) - - Show Bio

@judasnixon: Funny

#25 Posted by TheHulk (802 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk don't it will work unless they make plot so it different from Avengers.

#26 Posted by jphulk26 (1332 posts) - - Show Bio

@Markus_Langbourn: MM is awesome, and should be given more respect. He needs a redo of his origin story. A first contact kind of story. As for JL script being bad, I said this ages ago. It was an obvious knee jerk reaction to Avengers. They need solo WW and Flash movies, then they can start thinking JL. Maybe they´ll get that through their thick heads now.

#27 Posted by lilben42 (2544 posts) - - Show Bio

@jphulk26: Right, I like his new 52 costume.

#28 Posted by lilben42 (2544 posts) - - Show Bio

@OutlawRenegade: The only problem with that is that he is involved with Man Of Steel at the moment. I really don't know any great writers that read comics.

@Lvenger: I really can't think of someone that would be great for a JL film.Despero is ok but I wanted someone like Darkseid except not Darkseid because he should be in the last.

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