I Was Wrong About The Justice League Movie

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#1 Edited by Captain13 (3321 posts) - - Show Bio

I used to think that the roster for the Justice League movie should be Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, GL, and Cyborg.

This is me changing my mind.

Here's who should be on the Justice League movie:

6. Martian Manhunter- MMH is a perfect middle ground between the characters, which is what makes him their heart and soul. There is either an intimate connection or contrast he has with each of them.

-He possesses the great powers of Superman which makes him a virtual God to humans and therefore a threat. They also both face the dilemma of being immigrants to this planet, but from a very contrasting perspective i.e. Superman was an adoptee to this planet since infancy, while MMH came to this planet in adulthood and aesthetically is very different to us as well.

- His tragic past gives him a great deal of wisdom and forsight like Wonder Woman, but contrasts in the sense that his wisdom has grown from the tragedy and turmoil of his species eradication, while hers is born of her world which is a vision of justice and peace.

-He comes from tragedy, watching his family murdered like Batman.

-He was a soldier and knows the horror of war like Green Lantern, John Stewart.

-And he contrasts absolutely with Flash, who is the everyman, while MMH unlike any of his teammates is truly alone in the Universe. Alien in everyway from humanity.This gives Jónn a really fascinating dynamic with all of the characters. I see him as alienated, most of the time confining himself to the Watchtower, not wanting to engage with humanity, And therefore garnering distrust from us, as he´s seen as some distant unstoppable God in the sky.

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5. The Flash- I think the Flash if done correctly could be a real break out star. Wally West, is the kind of guy everyone will get, he will be the guy in the film who speaks from our perspective. The one who might piss off WW, with insinuating one liners. The one most willing to abuse his powers a little. Or, who plays up for the media. The one who puts the villain straight in his place even though he´s 10 times less powerful than them. The one who straight-up runs his mouth when everyone in the audience knows he shouldn´t. That why Wally West (or the Wally West character but called Barry Allen if that makes everyone happier) needs to be in this movie.One might say well Batman has no powers, so he´s the one we´ll relate to. And, of course we´ll love Batman in his own right; but Batman is at his best when really he´s a nutcase that no one can relate to. Why would this guy with no powers and extreme wealth dedicate his life to running around beating the crap out of low lifes and super villains? His will is beyond human. He´s the peak of humanity, he´s estranged from it, that´s why he´s so compelling. In that sense I think it should be left to The Flash, to be the guy to humanize the team, who says what the audience is thinking, therefore allowing us to accept the reality presented.

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4. Green Lantern- The Soldier Of The Team And Connection Between Man And Gods. John Stewart is the best Green lantern for a Justice League movie. Its not that I like him most of all the Green Lanterns at all; but really that he´s so undefined and therefore has great potential, without fanboys getting in arms about who plays him and if they stuck to the source material.What we know: he´s had a military history, he was a soldier, we assume he´s fought some war or another. Almost inhuman before he´s even given his power ring. His will is superhuman which is why he´s given the power ring. I think this mixed with the fact he´s a black soldier, could make for a very interesting story, perhaps introduced in the JL movie itself.I believe the Justice League movie has the opportunity to make a real original character because he´s so undefined and it will add a bit of diversity to the group. As long as they do a good job of his character, no fan boys will be up in arms.I think there´s a rich history of the social and political implications African Americans involved in US wars to draw on, to really make his character relevant and relatable.John´s military history is often referenced in the animated series, but not explored.I mean was he a badass special ops guy? Delta Force? The marine thing could just be a clever cover for his previous work. Was he a true patriot, or did he feel used in unjust wars? Was he in Afghanistan? Iraq? Or, maybe a fictional satirical conflict? Did he help fight drug king pins in secret? Or did he do counter terrorism missions? Did some tragedy happen to him at war? Was, he a P.O.W at one point for instance? How was his life as an African American before the war? Did he face any challenges as a black man? Was he unjustly treated by police? How would some of these experiences change his attitude towards being a superhero?How will they differ from an idealistic middle class all American country boy? A billionaire who faced tragedy at an early age, but has nonetheless been afforded all the privileges society has to offer? A Princess, who comes from a Utopian society, in which the idea of racial tension or division is a ridiculous and cruel notion? An alien, who´s seen the cruelest side of war? And, a Generation X/Y slacker, who struggles to take anything in life seriously?As long as they don´t make him a token black, but make him a real person that has faced the issues that soldiers face, or, African Americans have faced (obviously not too heavy) he would be a great distinct and interesting voice in the JL.

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3. Wonder Woman- In the history of Wonder Woman, there´s been two popular takes on the character. One, is the goody two shoes, who almost strikes one as a female Superman. The other is a far more interesting character that contrasts in very complimentary way to the rest of the Justice League. That is the proto-feminist warrior, antiwar heroine, who is like a “fish out of water” in a world where women historically have been considered somewhat lesser than men.

It is something she just can´t comprehend. And although she is wise enough to believe in the principals of peace, she is more that ready to turn to some good old fashioned beat downs, if those who intimidate through fear, turn their gaze on the vulnerable. Even ready to kill those who themselves would kill or harm people who cannot defend themselves. But the most important thing is despite all these qualities, WW has a regal sense of grace, and femininity. She is not just a woman turned into a man, so as to be an action hero. She is woman through and through. There´s something very interesting about this side of Diana, that would translate so well into film. Men would love it because, we all like the fantasy of powerful sexy woman with attitude. And, women because of her sense of the absolute equality between men and women, and her dignity, as well as the fact that she shows that a world run by women would actually be a hell of a lot better than the patriarchal world we call home; its a very inspiring message, to a generation of women and marginalized voices, who throughout history have been unjustly convinced of their ineptitude.

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2. Batman- Batman is such an iconic figure. Again Like Superman, he´s a figure who is so elemental to the human psyche, he could be considered an Archetype. The dark avenger, who´s trained himself, body and mind, to the cause of turning fear on those who use fear as a weapon. Armed with a wonderful array of high tech weapons, but that is not the Batman’s greatest weapon. His greatest weapon is his will to act. In his endless crusade against the forces of evil, he has adopted many of their methods, but only one rule separate’s him from his sworn enemies, he will never kill, he will never be judge, jury and executioner.In the Justice League, he is the dark side, the shadow, he knows the real world, he´s tasseled with the worst of them, and he´s seen the face of evil. This makes him cynical, reclusive, brooding, arrogant, and, untrusting. He´s essentially the bad boy of the League and we all know how we like a bad boy.My hope is they really kit him out for the JL movie, give him a genius intellect and tactical superiority over the rest of the team. I don´t want to just see Batarangs, smoke bombs and, such. He needs to be as potent as he can be as a human, so that we really get a sense he deserves to be amongst the Gods. The same goes for his villains.Obviously a great character who´s sense of daring do, appeals to almost all of us.

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1. Superman- It´s obvious really, Superman is THE Superhero. The first, and the most continuously compelling. His story is simple, as elemental and as archetypical as Hercules or Moses. An alien immigrant, shot down from the stars, raised as one of us, but imbued with powers way beyond what any one of us could imagine.In this sense Superman more than any of the other members of the group stands for and represents the core values cherished by humanity.There is a lot of drama to be made of this situation, in that he´s a virtual demigod who sees a world that is grey in black and white terms. He´s also such a puzzling, paradox, as it is almost certain that if any human being discovered they had such power, they would almost certainly be corrupted by it. Which always begs the question, perhaps he already has.As a final statement, it is Superman´s perfect sense of right and wrong, which when seen through the prism of his God like power, make his relation with his team mates, especially Batman so interesting. His ultimate character flaw is he is the perfect human. He´d have to be at times the moral compass of the group, but nonetheless, his sense of absolute, will come into conflict with the world´s grey areas and his team mates, who are little less idealistic, and more realist or down to Earth about how the world functions.

Credit For This Piece Goes To:jpfola26

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#2 Posted by MrShway88 (655 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Aquaman should be in it. People always make fun of Aquaman so this is a chance to redeem him to the "non-comic reading" public.

#3 Posted by Mega_spidey01 (3078 posts) - - Show Bio

i'm ok with lineup.

#4 Posted by SmashBrawler (5637 posts) - - Show Bio

@MrShway88 said:

I think Aquaman should be in it. People always make fun of Aquaman so this is a chance to redeem him to the "non-comic reading" public.

I agree 100% with this.

#5 Edited by Superdork (917 posts) - - Show Bio

I disagree. Here's who you need:

Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Flash, and Cyborg
#6 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

This roster plus Aquaman and you've got a perfect recipe.

#7 Posted by Twentyfive (2845 posts) - - Show Bio

Where did that pic come from? I like it.

#8 Posted by CODYSF (2053 posts) - - Show Bio

I like more Hal Jordan and Aquaman should be in it

#9 Posted by Superdork (917 posts) - - Show Bio
#10 Posted by danhimself (22493 posts) - - Show Bio

@MrShway88 said:

I think Aquaman should be in it. People always make fun of Aquaman so this is a chance to redeem him to the "non-comic reading" public.

agreed

@CODYSF said:

I like more Hal Jordan and Aquaman should be in it

agreed

and I think that while it may draw to many comparisons to Avengers I also think that Green Arrow should be in it

#11 Edited by moywar700 (2775 posts) - - Show Bio

The Leader-Batman

The lancer-Hal Jordan

The Smart Guy-The Flash

The Strong guy- Superman

The Chick-Wonder Woman

The 6th Ranger- Man Martian Hunter

#12 Posted by Captain13 (3321 posts) - - Show Bio

@CODYSF said:

I like more Hal Jordan and Aquaman should be in it

@danhimself said:

@MrShway88 said:

I think Aquaman should be in it. People always make fun of Aquaman so this is a chance to redeem him to the "non-comic reading" public.

agreed

@CODYSF said:

I like more Hal Jordan and Aquaman should be in it

agreed

and I think that while it may draw to many comparisons to Avengers I also think that Green Arrow should be in it

@moywar700 said:

The Leader-Batman

The lancer-Hal Jordan

The Smart Guy-The Flash

The Strong guy- Superman

The Chick-Wonder Woman

I'm not changing my mind. No offense or anything. I think you'd all prefer this thread:

http://www.comicvine.com/justice-league-of-america/65-31815/which-of-these-2-rosters-is-more-acceptable-for-a-jla-film/92-698483/#77

#13 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

@Superdork said:

@Gambit1024 said:

This roster plus Aquaman and you've got a perfect recipe.

While we may not be on the same page, I just thought that you may like this:

From: http://jprart.deviantart.com/gallery/8756910?offset=24#/dkvx3n

Me likey.

I agree, seven members is a lot for any movie that already has a lot going on, but for this movie to be the best that it can be, it's gotta have the main seven. Whether it's John, Hal, Kyle or Guy wearing the power ring, or Barry or Wally in the Flash costume, the identities of the main seven are the most deserving to be in the JL film.

Now, if for some reason they cannot give us the main seven, and limit it to 5, I would love to see a JL with the main seven, minus Superman and Batman-- The original JL.

Because I'm confident that the latter will never happen and the former may be too much, I'm sure the roster will be Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, and Green Lantern. Though I'm not particularly fond of the idea of leaving Aquaman or Martian Manhunter (because face it, this is they only chance they'll ever be in a movie), I'd suck it up and watch anyway.

#14 Posted by CODYSF (2053 posts) - - Show Bio

@Captain13 said:

@CODYSF said:

I like more Hal Jordan and Aquaman should be in it

@danhimself said:

@MrShway88 said:

I think Aquaman should be in it. People always make fun of Aquaman so this is a chance to redeem him to the "non-comic reading" public.

agreed

@CODYSF said:

I like more Hal Jordan and Aquaman should be in it

agreed

and I think that while it may draw to many comparisons to Avengers I also think that Green Arrow should be in it

@moywar700 said:

The Leader-Batman

The lancer-Hal Jordan

The Smart Guy-The Flash

The Strong guy- Superman

The Chick-Wonder Woman

I'm not changing my mind. No offense or anything. I think you'd all prefer this thread:

http://www.comicvine.com/justice-league-of-america/65-31815/which-of-these-2-rosters-is-more-acceptable-for-a-jla-film/92-698483/#77

Its your opinion I'm not mad

#15 Posted by danhimself (22493 posts) - - Show Bio

@Captain13: sooooo....you didn't want people posting their opinions in this thread?

#16 Edited by Reignmaker (2235 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree with the OP's lineup.

Hal Jordan just isn't necessary. Plus, if you omit him there's no need to revisit that awful movie with Ryan Renolds. Best act as though that never happened.

To those who love Aquaman, I sympathize. The thing is though, to do Aquaman right is going to take some careful handling. That means extra screen time (and some water scenes of course). Personally, I think there's too much riding on this movie to try to establish Aquaman in the first go around. A smaller, more recognizable cast where the Holy Trinity (Batman, Supes, WW) take up most of the focus is what mainstream audiences are going to want to see. I'm ok with an Aquaman cameo or something, but if it's done it should be something short and sweet. Make him a full-time member in the sequel once you have the core established.

#17 Posted by cameron83 (7200 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlueLantern1995 said:

While I do like Hal better than John, I do not mind and approve DC doing this lineup...

same here.

But Hal is still way better in my opinion,but I don't know why some people only like John just because he was on the cartoon.That is the main reason why they want john on only because of that cartoon.I don't mind him being part of the JLA,in fact I thought he always was,but Hal is supposed to be the main one.He is like batwoman or something (whom I think I like better).......Did I use "whom" correctly?

#18 Posted by The Stegman (23969 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm sorry, but f*ck racial diversity, Hal was the first Green Lantern (not counting Allen Scott of course) he deserves to be in the first JLA film, and giving it to John just because he's black, is just as racially prejudice if you ask me. If the need for a black person is so strong, make MM's human form black like they did in Justice League Doom.

#19 Posted by zackattack529 (1404 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't mind if Hal Jordan is in the movie, but he REALLY has t be the focal point of what he represents! he needs to be the guy who pushes through more than the rest of the team, the fearless Strong willed green lantern, I don't want him being the douche-y , wise-craking idiot he is in Johns current Justice leagur run.

I want him to be like he is in the Justice League: Doom movie.

But id much rather prefer John Stewart on the team than Hal.

Hal is great in his solo movie, hopefully Stewart makes his appearance in the next Green Lantern movie then he can join the Justice league while Hal does other things.

#20 Posted by _Black (2302 posts) - - Show Bio

@The Stegman said:

I'm sorry, but f*ck racial diversity, Hal was the first Green Lantern (not counting Allen Scott of course) he deserves to be in the first JLA film, and giving it to John just because he's black, is just as racially prejudice if you ask me. If the need for a black person is so strong, make MM's human form black like they did in Justice League Doom.

QFT

#21 Posted by joshmightbe (24876 posts) - - Show Bio

@The Stegman: I'm pro John in the movie not for the sake of racial diversity so much as that I f***ing hate Hal

#22 Posted by sethysquare (3843 posts) - - Show Bio

@Captain13: Betrayer.

#23 Posted by sethysquare (3843 posts) - - Show Bio

@_Black said:

@The Stegman said:

I'm sorry, but f*ck racial diversity, Hal was the first Green Lantern (not counting Allen Scott of course) he deserves to be in the first JLA film, and giving it to John just because he's black, is just as racially prejudice if you ask me. If the need for a black person is so strong, make MM's human form black like they did in Justice League Doom.

QFT

I just do not approve putting John Stewart in JLA.

Hal is and always will be the best Green Lantern.

#24 Edited by Black_Claw (2971 posts) - - Show Bio

I really like this line up, but I kinda prefer Barry to be the flash in the movie than Wally. However like you said, they can at least make Barry act like Wally (just downplay the flirtatious side since he has eyes for iris west). And if John will be on the league I'd really love for him to be played by Idris Elba.

#25 Posted by Teerack (5846 posts) - - Show Bio

Why do people like John? I mean Compared to Hal and Gar he might as well not have a personality. Not to mention they type of contrast Kyle can make. To me it's just buzzard that people choose him over Hal.

#26 Edited by Black_Claw (2971 posts) - - Show Bio

Hey ever hear the old saying different strokes for different blokes? Hal and John are my favorite Lanterns even though I'd prefer John a little bit more.

#27 Posted by Charlie07 (1 posts) - - Show Bio

I think aquaman definitely has to be in it he is a staple of the Justice League. I would like to see Red Tornado, his back story is somewhat confusing but could make for interesting storylines and his powers are similar to superman, i would take red tornado over martian manhunter. Unfortunately no matter what they do, the play up to the movie will never be like the avengers, ie each character having movies leading up to it, besides the new superman movie which looks pretty bad ass and will blow the pathetic superman returns out of the water. I wonder if green arrow will make an appearnce b/c of the new tv show lol

#28 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

@Teerack said:

Why do people like John? I mean Compared to Hal and Gar he might as well not have a personality.

Oh my God seriously? You're comparing John to Hal "One dimension" Jordan and claiming he has no personality? Hal has had a grand total of one interesting character development in the past three decades, and DC has spent the last 8 years trying suppress every memory of it.

#29 Posted by geoff2005 (206 posts) - - Show Bio

@MrShway88 said:

I think Aquaman should be in it. People always make fun of Aquaman so this is a chance to redeem him to the "non-comic reading" public.

i agree, plus it gives DC a chance to possibly put a "ocean" super hero before marvel does in avengers if they do.

with the new run of aquaman, how can they not?!

#30 Posted by Black_Claw (2971 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, DC would really be idiots to not jump at this chance to make everybody forget the super friends version of Aquaman.

#31 Edited by geoff2005 (206 posts) - - Show Bio

@Black_Claw said:

I really like this line up, but I kinda prefer Barry to be the flash in the movie than Wally. However like you said, they can at least make Barry act like Wally (just downplay the flirtatious side since he has eyes for iris west). And if John will be on the league I'd really love for him to be played by Idris Elba.

The way they made Robin in TDKR, it is possible they do that. However, if they ever plan on doing a crazy story to where both wally and barry are in it then it probably wouldnt work

@Charlie07 said:

I think aquaman definitely has to be in it he is a staple of the Justice League. I would like to see Red Tornado, his back story is somewhat confusing but could make for interesting storylines and his powers are similar to superman, i would take red tornado over martian manhunter. Unfortunately no matter what they do, the play up to the movie will never be like the avengers, ie each character having movies leading up to it, besides the new superman movie which looks pretty bad ass and will blow the pathetic superman returns out of the water. I wonder if green arrow will make an appearnce b/c of the new tv show lol

haha they can always bring him in, in the second movie. however i think a lot of people will think hes a rip off of Hawkeye

#32 Posted by Teerack (5846 posts) - - Show Bio

@AtPhantom: Because John is so developed that they don't have to keep telling the same story where he kills a comrade. Oh wait...

#33 Posted by TheCannon (18317 posts) - - Show Bio

This is a major improvement from the old one. I LOVE the way Manhunter looks, and it's good he's on the roster. While I like Hal more than John, I have no problem with John the GL in a movie, and he looks awesome in that pic. I agree with this roster 100%.

#34 Edited by Captain13 (3321 posts) - - Show Bio

@_Black said: @The Stegman said:

I'm sorry, but f*ck racial diversity, Hal was the first Green Lantern (not counting Allen Scott of course) he deserves to be in the first JLA film, and giving it to John just because he's black, is just as racially prejudice if you ask me. If the need for a black person is so strong, make MM's human form black like they did in Justice League Doom.

You didn't read the OP.

#35 Edited by Captain13 (3321 posts) - - Show Bio

@Teerack said:

Why do people like John? I mean Compared to Hal and Gar he might as well not have a personality. Not to mention they type of contrast Kyle can make. To me it's just buzzard that people choose him over Hal.

Because of Green Lantern Mosaic. Also because of the fact that he's the most mysterious Lantern. We know almost nothing about his past. I mean was he a badass special ops guy? Delta Force? The marine thing could just be a clever cover for his previous work. Was he a true patriot, or did he feel used in unjust wars? Was he in Afghanistan? Iraq? Or, maybe a fictional satirical conflict? Did he help fight drug king pins in secret? Or did he do counter terrorism missions? Did some tragedy happen to him at war? Was, he a P.O.W at one point for instance? How was his life as an African American before the war? Did he face any challenges as a black man? Was he unjustly treated by police? How would some of these experiences change his attitude towards being a superhero?

Furthermore, when you team him up with a Joke teller then you have an Abott and Costello thing going. It's like Lethal Weapon but with a space cop and a police scientist.

For more about John Stewart's greatness, watch The Once and Future Thing:

You can also watch:

Ancient History

Starcrossed

Wildcards

Comfort and Joy

Kid's Stuff

The Return

Legends

The Savage Time

Blackest Night

Metamorphosis

The Brave and The Bold

#36 Posted by The Stegman (23969 posts) - - Show Bio
@Captain13:  
 


@_Black said: @The Stegman said:

I'm sorry, but f*ck racial diversity, Hal was the first Green Lantern (not counting Allen Scott of course) he deserves to be in the first JLA film, and giving it to John just because he's black, is just as racially prejudice if you ask me. If the need for a black person is so strong, make MM's human form black like they did in Justice League Doom.

You didn't read the OP.

I read the OP, but my comment wasn't regarding the OP, which is why I didn't respond to you directly, my comment is to people on the thread who want John simply to add diversity to the League...and personally, I find John boring in the comics, sure he can have some interesting stories like the ones you listed, but Hal can be just as interesting, if not more so.
#37 Posted by Superdork (917 posts) - - Show Bio
#38 Posted by herrweis (431 posts) - - Show Bio

@The Stegman: hal may be the 1st green lantern but because of the great success of the jlu cartoon i think the general public are very aware of john stewart as g.l.

and i can see your point about racial diversity but you make it kind of crudely

i dont think there is a specific "need" for a black person but if you have a popular black (or other race) hero why not use them.whats the point of excluding

plus john is an awesome charecter

and it looks good editorally

#39 Posted by Lvenger (19320 posts) - - Show Bio

@Captain13: It's surprising to see you change your mind on this matter. I have to say John would be a much better choice for a Lantern than Hal film wise. I prefer Hal but it seems John could have a whole lot of story potential in the JL film. I'd only have MM in the film if they focused more on his telepathic and shapeshifting abilities. Weaken his physical attributes so that he's much lower than Superman and Wonder Woman in terms of strength, speed and durability.

#40 Posted by The Stegman (23969 posts) - - Show Bio

@herrweis:

@The Stegman: hal may be the 1st green lantern but because of the great success of the jlu cartoon i think the general public are very aware of john stewart as g.l.

and i can see your point about racial diversity but you make it kind of crudely

i dont think there is a specific "need" for a black person but if you have a popular black (or other race) hero why not use them.whats the point of excluding

plus john is an awesome charecter

and it looks good editorally

People know him from the cartoon yes, but they also know Hal from every other JL cartoon as well as from the movie (no matter how bad it was) it's not like he's an unknown. To me Hal can pretty much do anything just as effective as John can, plus is an original member, he deserves the spot more than John. I'm not excluding John, but what's the need to exclude Hal just to add John instead, who to me is a boring character. In the comics he has two emotions, Seriousness (no nonsense attitude) or sorrow due to him doing morally questionable acts. I've never been particularly entertained by him, and I think the reason people do like him is because of the show, which even then he was only funny when paired with Wally.

#41 Edited by Superdork (917 posts) - - Show Bio

@The Stegman said:

@herrweis:

@The Stegman: hal may be the 1st green lantern but because of the great success of the jlu cartoon i think the general public are very aware of john stewart as g.l.

and i can see your point about racial diversity but you make it kind of crudely

i dont think there is a specific "need" for a black person but if you have a popular black (or other race) hero why not use them.whats the point of excluding

plus john is an awesome charecter

and it looks good editorally

People know him from the cartoon yes, but they also know Hal from every other JL cartoon as well as from the movie (no matter how bad it was) it's not like he's an unknown. To me Hal can pretty much do anything just as effective as John can, plus is an original member, he deserves the spot more than John. I'm not excluding John, but what's the need to exclude Hal just to add John instead, who to me is a boring character. In the comics he has two emotions, Seriousness (no nonsense attitude) or sorrow due to him doing morally questionable acts. I've never been particularly entertained by him, and I think the reason people do like him is because of the show, which even then he was only funny when paired with Wally.

I'm not going to argue who is better because that is personal preference and we'll never agree. I just want to remind you of two things. 1)There's a difference between being unexplored and being one dimensional. While Johns has had the Green Lantern franchise, he's done very little to improve John's profile or depth. That's the writer not the character. And that can change with the comics. Look at Hawkeye pre and post Avengers film. 2)The show is a legitimate place to draw info from. A lot of Batman movies borrowed heavily from the Bruce Timm's cartoons.

And anyhoo, John also has a great dynamic with Bruce and Wonder Woman.

And he can make Clark funny. That's no easy task.

#42 Posted by Superdork (917 posts) - - Show Bio

Go to to 3:10 for the first video

#43 Posted by tahmidk (283 posts) - - Show Bio

replace martian manhunter with aquaman

#44 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

@Teerack said:

@AtPhantom: Because John is so developed that they don't have to keep telling the same story where he kills a comrade. Oh wait...

Only because Johns doesn't know what to do with any Green Lantern.

#45 Posted by Mega_spidey01 (3078 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe said:

@The Stegman: I'm pro John in the movie not for the sake of racial diversity so much as that I f***ing hate Hal

same here bro.

#46 Posted by SUNMAN (7228 posts) - - Show Bio

If Martian Manhunter is in the film, he will be nerfed to make sure he doesn't upstage Superman cause on paper they are really similar. Moviegoers will see the similar powers and slightly similar origin plus MM has telepathy and shapeshifting.

And LOL at characters deserving or being entitled in a movie. WB can put whoever they want in the movie. I'd suspect Superman, WW and Batman as locks, everyone else is up in the air. But I'd expect a team of at least 6 is not 7.

#47 Posted by Teerack (5846 posts) - - Show Bio

@AtPhantom:

I'm going to describe Hal without talking about his appearance.

Egotistic, Cocky, Impulsive, Passionate, Irresponsible, Insecure, Whimsical, and Humorous.

Now can you do the same for John? Because honestly only things I can think of are brave(brave GL NO WAY), kind, and smart. But all three of those things are things you could say about Hal and any other earth Lantern.,

#48 Posted by SUNMAN (7228 posts) - - Show Bio

@Teerack: solid, loyal, dedicated, focused, introspective, man of duty, serious, responsible, calculating, straight forward, guarded/puts on a strong front

Its not that hard for those familiar with the character

#49 Posted by sethysquare (3843 posts) - - Show Bio

@Captain13 said:

I used to think that the roster for the Justice League movie should be Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, GL, and Cyborg.

This is me changing my mind.

Here's who should be on the Justice League movie:

Big Six

Here is why:

6. Martian Manhunter- MMH is a perfect middle ground between the characters, which is what makes him their heart and soul. There is either an intimate connection or contrast he has with each of them.

-He possesses the great powers of Superman which makes him a virtual God to humans and therefore a threat. They also both face the dilemma of being immigrants to this planet, but from a very contrasting perspective i.e. Superman was an adoptee to this planet since infancy, while MMH came to this planet in adulthood and aesthetically is very different to us as well.

- His tragic past gives him a great deal of wisdom and forsight like Wonder Woman, but contrasts in the sense that his wisdom has grown from the tragedy and turmoil of his species eradication, while hers is born of her world which is a vision of justice and peace.

-He comes from tragedy, watching his family murdered like Batman.

-He was a soldier and knows the horror of war like Green Lantern, John Stewart.

-And he contrasts absolutely with Flash, who is the everyman, while MMH unlike any of his teammates is truly alone in the Universe. Alien in everyway from humanity.This gives Jónn a really fascinating dynamic with all of the characters. I see him as alienated, most of the time confining himself to the Watchtower, not wanting to engage with humanity, And therefore garnering distrust from us, as he´s seen as some distant unstoppable God in the sky.

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5. The Flash- I think the Flash if done correctly could be a real break out star. Wally West, is the kind of guy everyone will get, he will be the guy in the film who speaks from our perspective. The one who might piss off WW, with insinuating one liners. The one most willing to abuse his powers a little. Or, who plays up for the media. The one who puts the villain straight in his place even though he´s 10 times less powerful than them. The one who straight-up runs his mouth when everyone in the audience knows he shouldn´t. That why Wally West (or the Wally West character but called Barry Allen if that makes everyone happier) needs to be in this movie.One might say well Batman has no powers, so he´s the one we´ll relate to. And, of course we´ll love Batman in his own right; but Batman is at his best when really he´s a nutcase that no one can relate to. Why would this guy with no powers and extreme wealth dedicate his life to running around beating the crap out of low lifes and super villains? His will is beyond human. He´s the peak of humanity, he´s estranged from it, that´s why he´s so compelling. In that sense I think it should be left to The Flash, to be the guy to humanize the team, who says what the audience is thinking, therefore allowing us to accept the reality presented.

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4. Green Lantern- The Soldier Of The Team And Connection Between Man And Gods. John Stewart is the best Green lantern for a Justice League movie. Its not that I like him most of all the Green Lanterns at all; but really that he´s so undefined and therefore has great potential, without fanboys getting in arms about who plays him and if they stuck to the source material.What we know: he´s had a military history, he was a soldier, we assume he´s fought some war or another. Almost inhuman before he´s even given his power ring. His will is superhuman which is why he´s given the power ring. I think this mixed with the fact he´s a black soldier, could make for a very interesting story, perhaps introduced in the JL movie itself.I believe the Justice League movie has the opportunity to make a real original character because he´s so undefined and it will add a bit of diversity to the group. As long as they do a good job of his character, no fan boys will be up in arms.I think there´s a rich history of the social and political implications African Americans involved in US wars to draw on, to really make his character relevant and relatable.John´s military history is often referenced in the animated series, but not explored.I mean was he a badass special ops guy? Delta Force? The marine thing could just be a clever cover for his previous work. Was he a true patriot, or did he feel used in unjust wars? Was he in Afghanistan? Iraq? Or, maybe a fictional satirical conflict? Did he help fight drug king pins in secret? Or did he do counter terrorism missions? Did some tragedy happen to him at war? Was, he a P.O.W at one point for instance? How was his life as an African American before the war? Did he face any challenges as a black man? Was he unjustly treated by police? How would some of these experiences change his attitude towards being a superhero?How will they differ from an idealistic middle class all American country boy? A billionaire who faced tragedy at an early age, but has nonetheless been afforded all the privileges society has to offer? A Princess, who comes from a Utopian society, in which the idea of racial tension or division is a ridiculous and cruel notion? An alien, who´s seen the cruelest side of war? And, a Generation X/Y slacker, who struggles to take anything in life seriously?As long as they don´t make him a token black, but make him a real person that has faced the issues that soldiers face, or, African Americans have faced (obviously not too heavy) he would be a great distinct and interesting voice in the JL.

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3. Wonder Woman- In the history of Wonder Woman, there´s been two popular takes on the character. One, is the goody two shoes, who almost strikes one as a female Superman. The other is a far more interesting character that contrasts in very complimentary way to the rest of the Justice League. That is the proto-feminist warrior, antiwar heroine, who is like a “fish out of water” in a world where women historically have been considered somewhat lesser than men.

It is something she just can´t comprehend. And although she is wise enough to believe in the principals of peace, she is more that ready to turn to some good old fashioned beat downs, if those who intimidate through fear, turn their gaze on the vulnerable. Even ready to kill those who themselves would kill or harm people who cannot defend themselves. But the most important thing is despite all these qualities, WW has a regal sense of grace, and femininity. She is not just a woman turned into a man, so as to be an action hero. She is woman through and through. There´s something very interesting about this side of Diana, that would translate so well into film. Men would love it because, we all like the fantasy of powerful sexy woman with attitude. And, women because of her sense of the absolute equality between men and women, and her dignity, as well as the fact that she shows that a world run by women would actually be a hell of a lot better than the patriarchal world we call home; its a very inspiring message, to a generation of women and marginalized voices, who throughout history have been unjustly convinced of their ineptitude.

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2. Batman- Batman is such an iconic figure. Again Like Superman, he´s a figure who is so elemental to the human psyche, he could be considered an Archetype. The dark avenger, who´s trained himself, body and mind, to the cause of turning fear on those who use fear as a weapon. Armed with a wonderful array of high tech weapons, but that is not the Batman’s greatest weapon. His greatest weapon is his will to act. In his endless crusade against the forces of evil, he has adopted many of their methods, but only one rule separate’s him from his sworn enemies, he will never kill, he will never be judge, jury and executioner.In the Justice League, he is the dark side, the shadow, he knows the real world, he´s tasseled with the worst of them, and he´s seen the face of evil. This makes him cynical, reclusive, brooding, arrogant, and, untrusting. He´s essentially the bad boy of the League and we all know how we like a bad boy.My hope is they really kit him out for the JL movie, give him a genius intellect and tactical superiority over the rest of the team. I don´t want to just see Batarangs, smoke bombs and, such. He needs to be as potent as he can be as a human, so that we really get a sense he deserves to be amongst the Gods. The same goes for his villains.Obviously a great character who´s sense of daring do, appeals to almost all of us.

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1. Superman- It´s obvious really, Superman is THE Superhero. The first, and the most continuously compelling. His story is simple, as elemental and as archetypical as Hercules or Moses. An alien immigrant, shot down from the stars, raised as one of us, but imbued with powers way beyond what any one of us could imagine.In this sense Superman more than any of the other members of the group stands for and represents the core values cherished by humanity.There is a lot of drama to be made of this situation, in that he´s a virtual demigod who sees a world that is grey in black and white terms. He´s also such a puzzling, paradox, as it is almost certain that if any human being discovered they had such power, they would almost certainly be corrupted by it. Which always begs the question, perhaps he already has.As a final statement, it is Superman´s perfect sense of right and wrong, which when seen through the prism of his God like power, make his relation with his team mates, especially Batman so interesting. His ultimate character flaw is he is the perfect human. He´d have to be at times the moral compass of the group, but nonetheless, his sense of absolute, will come into conflict with the world´s grey areas and his team mates, who are little less idealistic, and more realist or down to Earth about how the world functions.

Credit For This Piece Goes To:jpfola26

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I still cannot believe you would betray us Cyborg fans like that.

#50 Posted by geoff2005 (206 posts) - - Show Bio

@SUNMAN said:

If Martian Manhunter is in the film, he will be nerfed to make sure he doesn't upstage Superman cause on paper they are really similar. Moviegoers will see the similar powers and slightly similar origin plus MM has telepathy and shapeshifting.

And LOL at characters deserving or being entitled in a movie. WB can put whoever they want in the movie. I'd suspect Superman, WW and Batman as locks, everyone else is up in the air. But I'd expect a team of at least 6 is not 7.

they did it fine in smallville, in fact if i recall at first they thought he was kyrptonian

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