@fallschirmjager
And what are you saying? That Jor-El all long wanted every human on Earth to die so Krypton could survive despite evidence of the contrary? The long range sensors his robot showed they had detailed knowledge of Earth from our atmospheric composition to our physiology. If the Kryptonians were so quick to kill everyone as you keep saying - why did they instead choose to harvest their planets core, despite Jor-El's warning it would destroy the planet - instead of just conqueror the human race who would be inferior in every way to them?
No. I'm not saying that he wanted Krypton to die and Earth to survive. You're not listening to what I'm saying and you're not listening to what the characters in the mvoie are actually saying. You're just see X happen but you're not looking for whats behind it.
Counsil Member: "Are you seriously suggesting we evacuate the entire planet"
Jor-El: "No. Everbody here is already dead. Give me control of the codek. I will ensure the survival of our race"
- If you listen to the tone in her voice you could already tell that evacuating teh planet was out of the question.
- They may have not had enough ships to evacuate the planet.
- It takes years to actually get to Earth and they weren't even expecting this to happen since it was a week early.
Furthermore - The Kryptonians hadn't been colonizing in thousands of years. Jor-El said as much when he was begging the Console to give him the Codex. And again when he explains their history to Superman. The scout ship that had been sent out by the Kryptonians crashed on earth 18,000+ years before hand, only further evidence of this. Even look at the outpost Zod's visits when he finds the World Engine - the planet is a barren wasteland long devoid of support life as evidence by the fact that they had to wear space suits, something which they don't have to do in Earth's orbit. That suggest the solar system's star itself may be dead. At the point when we're introduced to them the Kryptonians were an isolationist civilization.
Yes. They were colonizing for thousands of years and Zod said it himself. Even when Supergirl was alive they were doing it. And because they had to wear space suits on that planets orbit it means that. Its funny because you have no proof that the solar systems star was actually dead so does that make your point moot? Because according to your logic it does to mine now doesn't it?
I mean...lets indulge your theory for a second. Lets say the Kryptonians were slaughtering everyone in the galaxy (despite no evidence of it). Lets say the Green Lanterns actually went at war with them. Who's to say the war is not all ready long over with? The Kryptonians had not been colonizing in thousands of years. So even if your theory was correct - the problem of putting GL's in MoS-verse is still minimal at best. In fact if they went with that story line it would be a benefit, because they could introduce some bad blood between Superman and GL and allow the relationship room for growth.
Alright. Do you realize you tried to make a scenario to point out what I said makes no sense but what you said sounds much worse?
So they go to war with the Kryptonians and they don't have all of the World Engines destroyed? You fight a war because your enemy is using a certain object(World Engine) and you want them to stop using it but after you "win" they war you just leave them there with that weapon? When Japan bombed Amercia we had all of their weapons shut down. So how much sense would it make to leave the Krypotnians there with this weapon?
And GL would have to be a GL before Superman happened. Unless you're implying that GL was there the whole entire time and did absolutely nothing to help? Man Of Steel is teh starting point for the DC Universe. Hal/Kyle/Stewart gets his ring afterwards but by the time he gets the ring Superman is already seen as a hero? What bad blood is there to have?
- Superman saved the entire planet.
- Destroyed the World Engine.
- Killed his own.
- Put his life on the line to save Earth instead of his own race.
But he still wants to be enemies with him? Superman never went through any of the killing of other races and GL didn't go through defending these races. That's like saying "This white kid isn't racist but his parents grew him up to be racist but that black kid is still going to hate him! *even though he put his life on the line and killed his own*". What reason would you have to hate each other? Unless you think the Lantern corps is going to try and teach GL to hate Superman which they wont because they are made for peace and not envy? That would just be making a "Superman vs Green Lantern" even though we've already seen him fight Batman. And him and Batman are going to become freinds in the end anyways so GL is the new bad guy? That makes no sense. You seem to misinterpet everything I'm saying. And I'm not saying they were salughtering everyone. They can't be enemies with everyone but there still is a posibility that they were killing off some races
Here's your story in chronological based off of my theory(that I never calimed to be correct)
- Kryptonians kill other races
- GL interefers and wins.
- Leaves Krypton with the World Engine(The same thing that started the war)
- Superman saves Earth, kills his family, and shatters the chances of him saving his own race.
- GL hates him for this?
My theory
- Kryptonians kill other races.
- GL interferes and loses(hence why they still have the world engines on Krypton)
- Superman saves Earth.
- GL then gets his ring and sides with Superman.
And yes. This topic is silly. There is no proof that Kryptonians were an conquering people There is no proof to support a conflict ever existed between Krypton and the GL Corp. There is even evidence to the country given the Isolationist nature of the Kryptonians. There is no evidence of them killing anybody and the actions of Zod who's spiral into madness is the exception, not the rule. If the Kryptonians were as blood thirsty as you seem to think they were, they could have easily conquered Earth prior to the events of the movie if they had wanted too.
In short, all of this is theories based on theories, based on theories. At what point is that just crazy to indulge in?
Anyway. Its clear we're not going to agree, so I'll just stop posting. If I haven't proved my point now, I don't know what will do for you.
Hmm. If you look at the OP I said either GLs went to war with Krypton and lose or they never actually met them. Why are you cherry picking everything I'm saying to try and make me look bad? I address about everything you say and you just skip what I say. Zod is supposed to do anything that benefits his race and doesn't really care much for others plus the military was under his rule. Just becuase you're conquering other planets it doesn't mean you have to conquer every planet. This time they NEEDED to conquer Earth. You have absolutely no proof that they were isolationist and that's fine.
You really have everything wrong. There is no 100% proof to anything we're saying. This whole thread is based on theories. You honestly believe that everything you are saying is correct? I don't even believe everything I'm saying is correct(hence the reason I had two scenarios but I just expanded on the one that could be expanded on). That's the reason I made this thread, to hear others peoples theories. Are you really that conceited? This isn't about agreeing or disagreeing. This is about what could possibly be the future of the DC Universe with GL. But if you think this is about "who comes out on top" or "who sounds like an idiot" then fine. You can walk right out of this thread knowing that you were right and anything that opposes is wrong.
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