Justice League 3000 #2

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The Good

Keith Giffen has often epitomized hit-or-miss writing for me. When he hits, he hits out of the park, but when he misses, he was never even close. I’ve also often found that I like him a lot more at DC, which would explain why I absolutely love the first two issues of this book. Giffen’s greatest strengths have always been writing absurd, but not quite satirical and not overtly funny, books with a darkly comedic core. When he teams with J.M. DeMatteis, the good parts tend to shine all the brighter and bad parts tend to recede into the shadows. This book may very well be one of the best examples. The core Justice League has been resurrected by the twins Teri and Terry (DON’T call them the Wonder Twins) with fragments of their memories and personalities, but the missing parts seem to be the ones that work. Flash is a humorless wimp, Green Lantern has no ring and is by the book to a fault, Wonder Woman constantly wants to pound anything that moves (in more ways than one) and the World’s Finest are constantly trying to find ways to undermine and belittle each other. When they wind up on what was supposed to be some routine enforcement on a backwater world things, of course, go horrifically off script. Giffen has nailed all the characters’ voices in the book, you could put lines on a blank page and have a reasonably easy time assigning each one to the correct character, and the book has the tone of the Super Friends without the iron grip of Standards and Practices squelching the writers’ creativity.

Howard Porter spearheads the linework, giving every panel and beautiful, heady feel. This is one of the few books that I feel revels in the absolute, inherent bizarreness of technology and rather than trying to make the year 3000 look “realistic,” he goes for making it look cool. Like somewhere you’d actually want to visit, but probably not live. I absolutely adore the character designs as well. You could easily pick them out of a crowd, but the looks have been updated enough to be so much more than futuristic retread. These outfits stand proudly with Justice League 1,000,000. Hi-Fi’s colors are precisely the right blend of bright and grim. This isn’t a gritty, realistic book, but neither is it joyful and uplifting. It’s exactly what it needs to be, it’s Blade Runner with the sun up.

The Bad

Reality-warping villains are often tricky to handle as there’s really no good reason for them to have any kind of difficulty with anything beyond their own stupidity. The villain is far, far from resolved by issue’s end, but I’m hoping they come up with something better than a deus-ex machina or “villain dumb, make stupid mistake.” As often happens with books where Giffen is a writer, there is a LOT of text per panel and a decent chunk of it is expository, though very little of it describes what is happening in the panel, which is a plus.

The Verdict

This book balances humor and action amazingly well. By setting the story a thousand years in the future, but using a familiar cast, we get a best of both worlds situation where DeMatteis and Giffen are free to work their strangely dark humor, but we, as readers, still have a solid anchor point. Porter and Hi-Fi’s art is just cartoonish enough to be delightful right up until it needs to be dark and even a little messy.

#1 Posted by The Stegman (25522 posts) - - Show Bio

The first issue left me underwhelmed, I hope this one is better!

#2 Edited by G_Money_Christmas (884 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think I'll waste my money on this. I can't believe issue 1 got 4 stars!! I didn't even finish it. I was so bored with it I decided to quit wasting my time.

#3 Edited by danhimself (22691 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm having a blast with this book so far....it's quickly becoming my favorite DC book....it's just so much fun! with everyone just flat out refusing to call Superman anything but Clark, Wonder Woman's hormones, and Batman and Superman constantly at each others throats you can't help but have a great time with this

#4 Edited by Jonny_Anonymous (34347 posts) - - Show Bio

Really didn't like this first issue, I'll check this one out and if it hasn't got a lot better I'm dumping it

#6 Posted by dadarkknight36310 (114 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow, Y'all finally reviewed a Dc book. I thought you all had dropped Dc. I remember at one time this site was quick with Dc reviews but now it seems as though dc books are almost a second thought.

#7 Posted by 2cool4fun (1385 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow, am very surprised with this, maybe JL 3000 isn't a waste of space, but i'll try it when the TP comes.

#8 Posted by sagejonathan (2013 posts) - - Show Bio

I didn't like the first issue. I only liked maybe 2 pages out of the entire book.

#9 Posted by staypuffed (150 posts) - - Show Bio

I kinda liked the first issue, but I found the characterisation to be awful. If that continues here, I don't think I'll continue with this.

#10 Posted by The Stegman (25522 posts) - - Show Bio

I kinda liked the first issue, but I found the characterisation to be awful. If that continues here, I don't think I'll continue with this.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of the characterization either. All of them kinda just seem like..dicks. Batman's constantly pushing Clark's buttons just to push his buttons, Clark's an egotistical jerk, WW's just crazy. Flash and GL are the only ones I liked.

#11 Posted by staypuffed (150 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_stegman: I felt that Lantern did absolutely nothing, and Flash was a real downer. So I didn't like any of them. I really, really liked the idea, and the art style, but it's just NOT what I want to read.

#12 Posted by cagedleo730 (238 posts) - - Show Bio

Isn't it DeMatteis the one doing the scripting while Giffen does the plotting?

#13 Posted by micah (2095 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_stegman: Lucky for us their imperfect clones which explains why their dicks...

#14 Posted by Ostyo (9344 posts) - - Show Bio

So Wonder Woman is just horny eye candy? Well, what's new with DC and their treatment of women. :/

#15 Posted by dbullo22 (20 posts) - - Show Bio

@staypuffed: I agree I would like to see flash be come team leader.

#16 Edited by CantDance93 (351 posts) - - Show Bio

This a really good issue, I give it an 8. I really like how it's a blend of comedy and action, make's it more fun. It's really heavy dialogue wise, like lots of text, but it's still a really good issue.

#17 Edited by MartianManhunterIsBetterThanCyborg (2261 posts) - - Show Bio

I like Green Lantern's design. The book was alright.

#18 Posted by lifeofvibe (3513 posts) - - Show Bio

I just cant stop thinking about Barry that was really really harsh...even for a character I don't even like

#19 Posted by Transformers1024 (3165 posts) - - Show Bio

The first issue was kinda crap. Don't know if I'll be picking this issue up.

#20 Posted by TitanTempest (347 posts) - - Show Bio

I've loved the first two issues. This issue was so funny, and in their imperfection they feed off each other so well. The Justice League 3000 crew harass each other about their power and abilities like comic fans do with each other. The regular Justice League are companions so dialogue like this would never exist, but THESE guys are definitely not friends and its hilarious. I plan to continue to read this because I believe its worth it and want to support it!

#21 Posted by anandak47 (43 posts) - - Show Bio

This book is like DC's version of Superior Spiderman. Loving it.

#22 Edited by TheRyanHimself (60 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd be quite shocked if the characters didn't get some form of development. I think this book will be rewarding in the long run. I can't wait to see where it goes.

#24 Edited by Mars8254 (66 posts) - - Show Bio

This issue was nice. Ending was pretty good. Only problem i have with this series is there is no Cyborg. He seems like the perfect guy to be in this book.

#25 Posted by monsterduc (88 posts) - - Show Bio

Why anyone is supporting JL3000 after what they did to Kevin Maguire (who was supposed to be the original artist for the series and then they just booted him) is beyond me. Or any DC book that has kicked out creators for daring to expand a books horizons (JH Williams III, Blackman, Roberson, Robinson, etc. etc.). But I guess DC's loss is Marvel and Indie books gain :)

#26 Edited by Superbat420 (253 posts) - - Show Bio

Books garbage mad boring, unoriginal and not interesting

#27 Posted by TheRyanHimself (60 posts) - - Show Bio

@monsterduc: I personally follow DC for the characters.

#28 Edited by mikep12 (4142 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_stegman: that's kind of the idea and what makes the book cool as we kind of get to see these characters without certain traits

#29 Posted by The Stegman (25522 posts) - - Show Bio

@mikep12: yeah, you're right, I think I'm being too hard on them. Obviously they won't be like the original League.

#30 Edited by mikep12 (4142 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_stegman: another bonus this leaves room for a lot of character development maybe wonder woman will act as a woman, flash will be funny, superman will stop acting like a jerk and become friends with batman, green lantern will get a ring tho not technically character development

#31 Edited by Romthelegionaire (88 posts) - - Show Bio

Was anyone else slightly irritated that Green Lantern looks like the Spectre in some of the pages?

#32 Posted by mikeman1090 (9 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_stegman: I liked the first issue but it didn't wow me completely. This second issue though is really worth your time imo. It's fun and entertaining and the character interactions are great.

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#34 Posted by Scarecrow_Knight (7 posts) - - Show Bio

20 bucks says that Locus will be a part of the team by the first volumes ending

#35 Posted by Wardemon32 (4399 posts) - - Show Bio

I think I'll wait until the Volume releases. The Volumes are generally cheaper than the individual issues which saves me enough to buy another comic.

#36 Posted by TheCoolestNerdd (20 posts) - - Show Bio

I got into the series hoping for the same greatness I got from Justice League Beyond and I was sorely dissapointed

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