What people don't realize about Juggernaut

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#51 Posted by Matezoide2 (15999 posts) - - Show Bio
DEADPOOL said:
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The sheer fact is that Stan Lee created the Juggernaut for very specific reasons; he wanted a character that could not be defeated by force, he wanted a character that required teamwork and/or intelligence to defeat. But at the same time, heroes tend to hold back, so Stan Lee wanted to create someone that would allow a character to really let loose and show off how much power they really have without fear of killing him.

That is the heart and soul of the "Juggernaut" character, and people have to remember that each time they think about the Juggernaut. And honestly I typically dislike characters as powerful as Hulk, Superman, etc, and I used to dislike Juggernaut too... until I read what I just told you guys. It gave me an appreciation for the character and made me realize that he has to be that powerful, it was the sole reason why he was created.

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cool,where did you read that?
#52 Posted by Vance Astro (91403 posts) - - Show Bio

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#53 Posted by never give up (9715 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought the human juggernaut would revive this :)

#54 Posted by Matezoide2 (15999 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
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TOMBSTONE999 says:

"In 403 Juggy without his armor beat hulk down. Why do people choose to forget that?"

because hulk fanboys are mostly idiots.

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because he tricked the Professor Hulk,he was tring to avoid the fight,when he realized who it was it was too late since Juggs ALREADY has catched his neck.
besides 1 or 2 issues later Hulk beats Juggs in 2-3 punchs,why most peploe forget that?
#55 Posted by ironboy (113 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk can beat juggernaut.

#56 Edited by Matezoide2 (15999 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
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Alpha says:

"the human Juggernaut says:
"Alpha says:
"!Drake! says:
"I dont think niether Hulk or Jugs could beat each other they will always stand toe to toe. Here are non cosmic who can take out jugs Superman or Cable at full power "
I don't know about the Superman or Cable idea, but I do agree that the Hulk and Juggernaut can't win against each other. Even though the Hulk would become stronger, I don' think he could become strong enough that he coud prevail over the enchantment that's over the Juggernaut. And the Hulk's strength and healing would become so great that the Juggernaut's blows wouldn't matter. "
no, the hulk would eventually get tired and stop. Juggernaut has infinite stamina and would just keep going as if he just started."

Thats not true. Hulk has potential unlimited strength (based on his rage). He heals almost instant. How would he get tired? That could only happen if he ran out of energy, like he did with the Sentry. And Juggernaut doesn't have the power to make the Hulk drain his fighting him. "

and once again alpha, you are pwned by marvel.

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the Juggernaut IS potentialy the stronger because Cytorak can GIVE him more power,it is not like he can just get stronger at he free wiil,it all depends on Citorak.
anyway,why am i even posting?you (or another guy)will probaly just come,say i suck or that i am an idiot at all
#57 Posted by ironboy (113 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk is still stronger.

#58 Posted by Acheron (1458 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:

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Hulk #419 is fourteen years old.
#59 Posted by Matezoide2 (15999 posts) - - Show Bio

and just because marvel thinks dont mean it is complete true.
Bendis for example,he wanna see Thor losing to Ares,wich we know never would happen

#60 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
Acheron said:
"the human Juggernaut said:

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Hulk #419 is fourteen years old."
cytorrak hasn't changed, and juggernaut has the same power he had then.  What's your point?
#61 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
Matezoide said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
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Alpha says:

"the human Juggernaut says:
"Alpha says:
"!Drake! says:
"I dont think niether Hulk or Jugs could beat each other they will always stand toe to toe. Here are non cosmic who can take out jugs Superman or Cable at full power "
I don't know about the Superman or Cable idea, but I do agree that the Hulk and Juggernaut can't win against each other. Even though the Hulk would become stronger, I don' think he could become strong enough that he coud prevail over the enchantment that's over the Juggernaut. And the Hulk's strength and healing would become so great that the Juggernaut's blows wouldn't matter. "
no, the hulk would eventually get tired and stop. Juggernaut has infinite stamina and would just keep going as if he just started."

Thats not true. Hulk has potential unlimited strength (based on his rage). He heals almost instant. How would he get tired? That could only happen if he ran out of energy, like he did with the Sentry. And Juggernaut doesn't have the power to make the Hulk drain his fighting him. "

and once again alpha, you are pwned by marvel.

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the Juggernaut IS potentialy the stronger because Cytorak can GIVE him more power,it is not like he can just get stronger at he free wiil,it all depends on Citorak.
anyway,why am i even posting?you (or another guy)will probaly just come,say i suck or that i am an idiot at all"
read 8th day.  He was stronger because he needed to go somewhere.
#62 Edited by Acheron (1458 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
"Acheron said:
"the human Juggernaut said:

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Hulk #419 is fourteen years old."
cytorrak hasn't changed, and juggernaut has the same power he had then.  What's your point?"
You seem to post that for support that Marvel thinks that Juggs is stronger than Hulk. I'm not debating that point.

I'm saying that their "current" opinion isn't current anymore, and that scan is practically moot.
#63 Posted by ironboy (113 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk is stronger than juggernaut.

#64 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
Acheron said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"Acheron said:
"the human Juggernaut said:

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Hulk #419 is fourteen years old."
cytorrak hasn't changed, and juggernaut has the same power he had then.  What's your point?"
You seem to post that for support that Marvel thinks that Juggs is stronger than Hulk. I'm not debating that point.

I'm saying that their "current" opinion isn't current anymore, and that scan is practically moot."
how is it moot?  Juggernaut is the same as he was then, and so is cyttorak. 
#65 Posted by never give up (9715 posts) - - Show Bio
ironboy said:
"Hulk is stronger than juggernaut."
lol.
#66 Posted by Acheron (1458 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
"how is it moot?  Juggernaut is the same as he was then, and so is cyttorak. "
It's moot because Marvel's opinions close to fourteen years ago aren't current. The writers could have easily changed their minds about the two characters. Just because Juggs is the same doesn't mean that opinions regarding him are the same.
#67 Posted by Vendel (355 posts) - - Show Bio
Acheron said:
You seem to post that for support that Marvel thinks that Juggs is stronger than Hulk. I'm not debating that point.

I'm saying that their "current" opinion isn't current anymore, and that scan is practically moot."


If Hulk could not overpower The Juggernaut in an event called World War Hulk. Then I think Marvel opinion is still on Juggs side. So the scan is not moot. It merely reinforces what we have been shown recently.
#68 Posted by Nerx (15087 posts) - - Show Bio
ironboy said:
"Hulk is stronger than juggernaut."
Why the repetition? Bring a better valued comment if you want people to care.

Why is Vance even here? Should haters even be allowed?
#69 Posted by Vance Astro (91403 posts) - - Show Bio
Nerx said:
"ironboy said:
"Hulk is stronger than juggernaut."
Why the repetition? Bring a better valued comment if you want people to care.

Why is Vance even here? Should haters even be allowed?"
Because I can post where ever I want..THAT'S WHY.F#ck Juggernaut.
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#70 Posted by Vendel (355 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"Nerx said:
"ironboy said:
"Hulk is stronger than juggernaut."
Why the repetition? Bring a better valued comment if you want people to care.

Why is Vance even here? Should haters even be allowed?"
Because I can post where ever I want..THAT'S WHY.F#ck Juggernaut."

It's good to know some things never change. Vance is still a beacon of quiet dignity and grace.
#71 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio
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#72 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

lol, what the hell is that???

#73 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio

Juggernaut is a gentlemen

#74 Posted by why so serious (1379 posts) - - Show Bio

Juggernaut may be strong but he aint that smart or skilled. 
 

   

#75 Posted by why so serious (1379 posts) - - Show Bio

Juggernaut may be strong but he aint that smart or skilled. 
 

   

#76 Posted by why so serious (1379 posts) - - Show Bio

Juggernaut may be strong but he aint that smart or skilled. 
 

   

#77 Posted by why so serious (1379 posts) - - Show Bio

Juggernaut may be strong but he aint that smart or skilled. 
 

   

#78 Posted by The_Thunderer (2894 posts) - - Show Bio

Imo him being unstoppable and un-killable is cool, unbeatable is boring.

#79 Posted by HellionVulcan (3900 posts) - - Show Bio

The world war hulk scans show one thing classic level juggernaut = stronger than world war hulk as he started pushing him back then he got all distracted & got bfr which is stupid cause Juggernaut should've just stopped instantly as he should be able to stop himself in motion or else he'd keep walking/running with no control lol but it was a plot device so world war hulk wasn't stopped then & there by good ol' juggernaut .

#80 Edited by Twentyfive (2845 posts) - - Show Bio

What people don't realize about The Juggernaut is that he can hit you with your own pimp!

#81 Edited by Vitality (1757 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah...I think that WWH showed that the hulk, even at such high levels of strength, had to use his wits to beat Juggernaut as he was being outmatched physically. Everyone has an opinion...but mine is that Juggernauts mystic power makes him stronger than the Hulk physically. Now world breaker Hulk is a different story...as he is theoretically immensely stronger than WWH Hulk...however...given the context of the events that led to him being that angry and subsequently that powerful...it's safe to say that he will never be that powerful again...ever.

#82 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20442 posts) - - Show Bio

Juggernaut is NOT as strong as Hulk. Just more durable and invulnerable.

#83 Posted by timotaka (3 posts) - - Show Bio

I find the Juggernaut as a very useful storytelling device. In regards to his power level, he is a villain against whom any hero can credibly lose. On the other hand, Cain Marko has a street-level mentality. He does not seek world domination or mass destruction. When you put these two together, Juggernaut is your go-to guy when you want to write a story about a hero failing and dealing with the failure. A story about that is often more interesting than yet another unmitigated victory.

#84 Edited by Vendel (355 posts) - - Show Bio

@timotaka said:

I find the Juggernaut as a very useful storytelling device. In regards to his power level, he is a villain against whom any hero can credibly lose. On the other hand, Cain Marko has a street-level mentality. He does not seek world domination or mass destruction. When you put these two together, Juggernaut is your go-to guy when you want to write a story about a hero failing and dealing with the failure. A story about that is often more interesting than yet another unmitigated victory.

Yes and this seems to be the setup for I.H. #602. http://www.comicvine.com/news/exclusive-preview-incredible-hulk-602/139397/

Instead what we got is Cain standing around for most of the issue and Skaar eventually finding a way to BFR him. Great lesson learned there.

#85 Posted by timotaka (3 posts) - - Show Bio

I hear you. With the idea of Bruce Banner is training Skaar, that issue would have been much better if it had used Juggernaut to help teach Skaar that there are always some battles you just cannot win.

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