Well he's back but what I want to know is.............................. how is he drawing his powers again if Colossus has them????

@gwilburn12: He doesn't anymore. Magik broke the link.

@TheCrowbar: Was this in one of the AvX tie ins?

:D Cain!!!

@guttridgeb: Uncanny X-men

@gwilburn12: I wonder what he will be doing after thunderbolts I personally always thought he fit better as a villain but Idk

@gwilburn12:

maybe because the power of cyttorak is infinite, and can feed as many avatars as he want, it's known that cyttorak feeds more than 1 juggernaut, because there is many juggernauts from different dimensions, as far as i know

@Slorm said:

@gwilburn12:

maybe because the power of cyttorak is infinite, and can feed as many avatars as he want, it's known that cyttorak feeds more than 1 juggernaut, because there is many juggernauts from different dimensions, as far as i know

True but i am glad Cain Marko has the powers back just i don't think hes at his peak ,seems he got just abit more powerful then the older issues of thunderbolts levels .

so here's my problem....Colossus is no longer the Juggernaut but Cain now has Juggernaut powers from a different reality...so where are the Juggernaut powers of the 616 reality????

@danhimself: Colossus is no longer the juggernaut? i didn't know it... but, well there is only 1 cyttorak there is no different cyttorak being for each reality, all the power to create avatars of destruction are from the same source @Cyttorak. so if Colossus isn't a juggernaut anymore is just because cyttorak don't want to feed him and that's all (so to answer your question the powers don't have to be strictly in a living being, it's just up to the will of cyttorak to feed someone)

As of the last issue of Uncanny X-Men#20, Magik has absolved Colossus of his Juggernaut powers. She teleported him to her dimension where she is king of her domain and used her soulsword to break the link. In future issues we will see what the future holds for Cain Marko. As of Dark Avengers#182 he got them back in what capacity that is still unknown.

@danhimself said:

so here's my problem....Colossus is no longer the Juggernaut but Cain now has Juggernaut powers from a different reality...so where are the Juggernaut powers of the 616 reality????

So is that how Cain has his Juggernaut powers back? He's drawing them from a different reality?

@danhimself said:

so here's my problem....Colossus is no longer the Juggernaut but Cain now has Juggernaut powers from a different reality...so where are the Juggernaut powers of the 616 reality????

It's all sourced back to Cyttorak. They got a new gem so he could channel those powers again.

@Lvenger said:

@danhimself said:

so here's my problem....Colossus is no longer the Juggernaut but Cain now has Juggernaut powers from a different reality...so where are the Juggernaut powers of the 616 reality????

So is that how Cain has his Juggernaut powers back? He's drawing them from a different reality?

yeah Man-Thing opened a portal to another reality where the Cain Marko there had just died so his powers went to the 616 Cain Marko but according to others in this thread there is only one Cyttorak for all of the multiverse so his suit looks a little different but his powers are the same

It was pretty poorly handled and neither event referenced the other.

@danhimself Ah Marvel the House of contradiction.

@TheAcidSkull said:

@fodigg said:

It was pretty poorly handled and neither event referenced the other.

when did this event take place? and so now we have to juggernauts?

No apparently Colossus isn't the Juggernaut anymore due to this

@gwilburn12 said:

As of the last issue of Uncanny X-Men#20, Magik has absolved Colossus of his Juggernaut powers. She teleported him to her dimension where she is king of her domain and used her soulsword to break the link. In future issues we will see what the future holds for Cain Marko. As of Dark Avengers#182 he got them back in what capacity that is still unknown.

@Lvenger: i agree all this is confusing, and contradictory. but i'm happy that Cain Marko is the Juggernaut again. even though i would have like to see a battle between the two juggernauts xD

edit: well i have read a post from Lance Bastro, the guy with most knowledge about cyttorak that i have ever seen. and he said in a post that cyttorak feeds just 1 juggernaut per reality. that explains why they needed the power from a juggernaut of another dimension to give cain marko the powers back to him

This is awesome news!

As long as they're not low-balling him all through this decade, I'm glad to hear it too. I get sick of Cain looking like a chump in front of guys when he's a natural team wrecker and against loathsome dopes undeserving of hanging with him like Rulk.

I wonder now, if he's perhaps going to be ticked at Cyclops for murdering his brother Professor Xavier. Marvel should capitalize on that if they have any brains left.

Considering how many times Cain has tried it I doubt her will care much.

wait so is Cain suppose to be joining Thuderbolts?

@McKlayn: yeah i think so, i hope juggernaut stays on the team because he's grateful. and not because he's depowered again xd

oh man i want to read thunderbolts even more now lol

Juggs should join Storms version of X-force!

i have read Dark Avengers 183 and the powers were given to juggernaut just for a bit of time, as soon as they defeated the bad guys, his power was taken off from him

But later there was a scene where he said that he still had the power and that he'd run as much as he can(or something like that,i have the comic in italian)and he also said that knowing his luck he will lose it again.

So tecnicaly he still has the power,but i fail to understand in what level...i suposed theat he has them like he did in the earlier thunderbolts comics