juggernaut and the avengers

#1 Posted by saber_tooth (15 posts) - - Show Bio

there is this question that's been bugging me that you guys might be able to answer.

what if the juggernaut joins the avengers?

#2 Posted by V_Scarlotte_Rose (6544 posts) - - Show Bio

Is there a reason to believe that he will?

#3 Posted by feebadger (1445 posts) - - Show Bio

@saber_tooth: Uh, then he'd be an Avenger. Not sure what you're looking for here 0_0

#4 Edited by ssejllenrad (12790 posts) - - Show Bio

I bet the Avengers would welcome him with open arms and forget his crimes.... Cause that's what the Avengers is all about. Forgetting crimes of really guilty people and going after those who did not really control their actions when they did their crimes.

#5 Posted by Sideslash (5918 posts) - - Show Bio

I bet the Avengers would welcome him with open arms and forget his crimes.... Cause that's what the Avengers is all about. Forgetting crimes of really guilty people and going after those who did not really control their actions when they did their crimes.

Ouch. The Avengers gonna need some aloe vera for that burn.

#6 Posted by TheAcidSkull (18832 posts) - - Show Bio

They have hulk, they don't need juggs.

#7 Edited by Lvenger (21246 posts) - - Show Bio

They have hulk, they don't need juggs.

So what are your views on the Hulk vs Juggernaut match up if you don't mind my asking? I bet there'll be some reference to Hulk holding back during WWH which means he wasn't at the level he was in the Dark Dimension :P

Personally, I see Hulk as physically stronger whilst Juggernaut as the more durable one. That forcefield and unstoppable momentum is tough to beat.

#8 Posted by TheAcidSkull (18832 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

@theacidskull said:

They have hulk, they don't need juggs.

So what are your views on the Hulk vs Juggernaut match up if you don't mind my asking? I bet there'll be some reference to Hulk holding back during WWH which means he wasn't at the level he was in the Dark Dimension :P

Personally, I see Hulk as physically stronger whilst Juggernaut as the more durable one. That forcefield and unstoppable momentum is tough to beat.

Personally, i see hulk( obviously XD) as the superior being, both are insanely strong, and durable, ane while i agree with your statement, Hulk was holding back During WWH, thats said more than once, despite his rage, he held back because in the end, he didn't REALLY want to hurt anyone, thats why he is a hero, and thats one of the best concepts pak established. Or re-established :)

#9 Posted by Lvenger (21246 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

@theacidskull said:

They have hulk, they don't need juggs.

So what are your views on the Hulk vs Juggernaut match up if you don't mind my asking? I bet there'll be some reference to Hulk holding back during WWH which means he wasn't at the level he was in the Dark Dimension :P

Personally, I see Hulk as physically stronger whilst Juggernaut as the more durable one. That forcefield and unstoppable momentum is tough to beat.

Personally, i see hulk( obviously XD) as the superior being, both are insanely strong, and durable, ane while i agree with your statement, Hulk was holding back During WWH, thats said more than once, despite his rage, he held back because in the end, he didn't REALLY want to hurt anyone, thats why he is a hero, and thats one of the best concepts pak established. Or re-established :)

I figured your response would be something like that. So you think Hulk's strength>Juggernaut's forcefield?

#10 Posted by TheAcidSkull (18832 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

@theacidskull said:

@lvenger said:

@theacidskull said:

They have hulk, they don't need juggs.

So what are your views on the Hulk vs Juggernaut match up if you don't mind my asking? I bet there'll be some reference to Hulk holding back during WWH which means he wasn't at the level he was in the Dark Dimension :P

Personally, I see Hulk as physically stronger whilst Juggernaut as the more durable one. That forcefield and unstoppable momentum is tough to beat.

Personally, i see hulk( obviously XD) as the superior being, both are insanely strong, and durable, ane while i agree with your statement, Hulk was holding back During WWH, thats said more than once, despite his rage, he held back because in the end, he didn't REALLY want to hurt anyone, thats why he is a hero, and thats one of the best concepts pak established. Or re-established :)

I figured your response would be something like that. So you think Hulk's strength>Juggernaut's forcefield?

Proff hulk hurt jugges when he stopped holding back, so yeah :P

#11 Posted by Pyrogram (41344 posts) - - Show Bio

Personally, i see hulk( obviously XD) as the superior being, both are insanely strong, and durable, ane while i agree with your statement, Hulk was holding back During WWH, thats said more than once, despite his rage, he held back because in the end, he didn't REALLY want to hurt anyone, thats why he is a hero, and thats one of the best concepts pak established. Or re-established :)

No offence but calling BS. Hulk was clearly trying to injure people, Who the F declares war on the Earth ( Or heroes ) and not want to injure somebody?

Case closed.

#12 Edited by TheAcidSkull (18832 posts) - - Show Bio

@pyrogram:

Cho confirms that hulk was holding back

Hulk was always holding back

hulk didn't break anything that won't heal, he even tells wolverine that he knows he can't kill him.

#13 Posted by Pyrogram (41344 posts) - - Show Bio

@theacidskull: Read what he says to Him, That is one of the most vicious and malicious things I have ever seen said in a comic. Holing back means nothing, he still carried out the actions, its even worse if anything. So you saying I can torture somebody "just beacuse then can heal"...That is not a very good excuse.

No, Hulk did DID want to injure people, If he did not want too he could have just not done anything in the first place, holding back? And what, he still attacked people and injured, nearly killed them.

Holding back means nothing, Thor holds back all the time but he kills people in Asgard.

#14 Edited by TheAcidSkull (18832 posts) - - Show Bio

@pyrogram said:

@theacidskull: Read what he says to Him, That is one of the most vicious and malicious things I have ever seen said in a comic. Holing back means nothing, he still carried out the actions, its even worse if anything. So you saying I can torture somebody "just beacuse then can heal"...That is not a very good excuse.

No, Hulk did DID want to injure people, If he did not want too he could have just not done anything in the first place, holding back? And what, he still attacked people and injured, nearly killed them.

Holding back means nothing, Thor holds back all the time but he kills people in Asgard.

dude, chill.

Anyways, for one thing, when your wife, child, and planet gets massacred it's kinda hard NOT to do something about it. he was mad yes, and it was justified, not only did his own friends acted like gods and banished him, but hulk though his friends killed of everything he had found. Holding back does not mean he didn't want to HURT them, he didn't want to kill them, he wanted to make them pay for what they had done, he layed thing on the floor with one punch, he could have killed him right there, but he didn't, in fact no one died that day, at the end, hulk himself says that " i came for justice, not murder" and h got what he wanted, he could have den far worse than what already happened, hulk himself says so, and cho confirms this too.

also hulk has fought wolverine more times then one, he knows what he is capable of, and wolverine was being a pest, and longa is durable, so hulk deposed of him, and left him their, he could have kept on punching , he didn't. as you can see, even when he attacked one of the students, like rockslide, he knew their powers, and he didn't do anything they could not have healed from.

i see your still mad about hulk lifting mjolnir XD!jk

#15 Posted by Pyrogram (41344 posts) - - Show Bio

@theacidskull:

"So lets see what happens too your brain, smashing inside of your metal skill, again and again"

Ohh, that is nice aint it? Nothing suggesting he wanted to kill him, he will heal? I makes it ok--right? Let's go steal Wolverine, tie him up and torture him for hours on end beacuse he can heal, hell lets go get a normal child, electrocute them until near death and then give them 24hrs to heal, and do it again and again, You know? The child will survive, so it makes it alright, Does it not?

Or in hulks case, lets just expect him to heal, and punch him in the face again and again until he dies, ohh and when he comes back to life, LETS PUNCH HIM AGAIN AND AGAIN, Hulk is a hero. A true hero.

No. Hulk had the intent to injure and kill people. Holding back, what does that even mean? He killed them slower? Yeah..right, Or is he EVEN worse and only went to torture the people who could heal? Yeah....I like that concept, very "hero" like.

he wanted to make them pay for what they had done,

By torture, Wolverine is an example, Does this make him a Hero?

No, I disagree with Hulk being a hero, he is not and proves this again and again...WWH backs this up, All Heroes get things like that done, so many Heroes have had tragedy, ( Hulks was brought on by his OWN actions mind you , he was banished for being a monster ) , Did batman go crazy and kill everybody when his parents died? Did Thor go crazy and kill everybody when his mother died once? No, he sought out the SOLE person who did it and killed them ( Loki in this case ) He did not go and declare war on an entire planet. Wtf was Hulk even thinking?

He is soo smart, but he fails to realize his actions back-up why he was banished, He is a monster who has the mind of a child, failing to realize his actions just justify why he was banished AND why they tried to kill him...

#16 Edited by Pyrogram (41344 posts) - - Show Bio
#17 Posted by TheAcidSkull (18832 posts) - - Show Bio

@pyrogram said:

@theacidskull: I'm playing, I know Hulk aint a bad-guy ;)

YOU EVIL MASTERMIND!

you could have at least told me that before i wrote an essay XD, i haven't posted it yet gladly XD

#18 Posted by Pyrogram (41344 posts) - - Show Bio
#19 Posted by saber_tooth (15 posts) - - Show Bio

we all know that both hulk and juggernaut can increase their strength. hulk's strength increases by his anger, but what about juggernaut's? how does his strength increase?

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