Is Juggernaut a good guy or a bad guy now?

#1 Posted by Kid_Omega_Prime (1260 posts) - - Show Bio

Hey is Juggernaut a good guy or a bad guy now? I am lost on him and I  don't know what side hes on? Plus what about Magneto what sade is he on? Good or Bad?
#2 Posted by Edamame (28187 posts) - - Show Bio

I am not so sure about the Juggernaut, but Magneto is somewhat of an anti-hero. He means well, but his methods that lead to achieving his goals are very questionable and not very "heroic".  Magneto is currently with the X-Men. 

#3 Posted by Iron_Lad (315 posts) - - Show Bio

He's a bad guy forced to act like a good guy right now. He has good in him and has shown compassion in the past with the X-men sometimes, but it looks like he's going to go all out villain judging by the latest "Fear Itself" promo covers.

#4 Posted by CosmicSpiral (5470 posts) - - Show Bio

He's being "reformed" right now. 

#5 Posted by Video_Martian (5645 posts) - - Show Bio

"Anti-hero"

#6 Posted by Vendel (354 posts) - - Show Bio
Cain Marko is a sociopath. He has been so since before he became The Juggernaut. Since becoming The Juggernaut he has become a mass-murderer and a terrorist as well. He willingly accepts a power that he knows compels evil acts and considers it a blessing. 
 
So no he is not a good guy. He can never be a good guy. Not without taking a giant shit on his character.
#7 Posted by Kallarkz (3303 posts) - - Show Bio
Not quite sure i would put him under the sociopath category nowadays. Yes he could be a good guy =)
#8 Posted by Vendel (354 posts) - - Show Bio
@Kallarkz said:

" Not quite sure i would put him under the sociopath category nowadays. Yes he could be a good guy =) "

 
 So no he is not a good guy. He can never be a good guy. Not without taking a giant shit on his character. 
#9 Posted by brc2000 (1679 posts) - - Show Bio

He's only less of a bad guy when compared to people like Crossbones and King Hyperion. He's not a good guy.

#10 Posted by Falcon9 (72 posts) - - Show Bio

CONFUSION!!!!!!!!!!!

#11 Posted by Kallarkz (3303 posts) - - Show Bio

People are giving some false info here. I have heard rumors of him possibly returning to villain status but as of RIGHT NOW....he is working with the Thunderbolts and is currently NOT as strong as he once was because he will not use his powers for selfish purposes and because he took in the Captain Universe power for a brief while which insulted Cyttorak.  

#12 Posted by Vendel (354 posts) - - Show Bio
@Kallarkz said:

" People are giving some false info here. I have heard rumors of him possibly returning to villain status but as of RIGHT NOW....he is working with the Thunderbolts and is currently NOT as strong as he once was because he will not use his powers for selfish purposes and because he took in the Captain Universe power for a brief while which insulted Cyttorak.   "

 
 
No, you don't get to just make up your own reasons why he is in a weakened state. Even in the comic they basically handwaved it as "something to do with Captain Universe". Anything else is pure speculation on your part.
 
And the only reason this was done was for an excuse to be able to control him. Cain is on the raft and the T-Bolts because he is weak. He is not seeking redemption. And once this big Marvel event happens and he gets a power up he is going to destroy the raft and take his leave. Then go kick the X-Mens ass from the looks of it. 
 

#13 Edited by Kallarkz (3303 posts) - - Show Bio
Mmmm well we saw that during one of his battles with the Hulk he was smacked down because he was unable to call the full power of Cyttorak because of the fact that he was using his powers for Heroics purposes (This is fact not speculation). It is possible that at this current moment the only reason for which he is depowered is because of the incident with Captain Universe but.. Agree to disagree =) Though we do agree on the fact that he will turn all evil soon. At the current moment officially from Marvel the Juggernaut is Neutral.
#14 Posted by Theworldbreaker (1642 posts) - - Show Bio
@Kallarkz:
I agree, threw out his time iwth excalibur he wasd depowerd for not doing what Cyttorack wanted and thats what he is doing RIGHT NOW on top of briefly using Captain Universe's power.
#15 Posted by Vendel (354 posts) - - Show Bio
@Kallarkz said:
"Though we do agree on the fact that he will turn all evil soon. At the current moment officially from Marvel the Juggernaut is Neutral. "
 
 Again how can someone "turn evil" who is an unrepentant mass-murder?
#16 Edited by Kallarkz (3303 posts) - - Show Bio

 We disagree about Juggernauts current status and his personality. I have seem qualities in him recently that do not make him seem to be a "sociopath" currently or an all out villain. Though he is far from being anywhere near a Hero as Thunderbolts is pure villains and ex-villains. 

#17 Posted by thatlad (594 posts) - - Show Bio

He's  a HARD BASTARD!

#18 Posted by Kid_Omega_Prime (1260 posts) - - Show Bio

I heard Juggy is re- joining the Thunderbolts ? So dose that mean he is good again ?

#19 Posted by Kid_Omega_Prime (1260 posts) - - Show Bio

I asked this before and ill ask again. now that Juggy is re- joining the Thunderbolts ? So dose that mean he is good again ?

#20 Posted by Vincent92 (261 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kid_Omega_Prime: unknown at the moment, but i think he will be a good guy as for now, i have heard that he has got some new body armor that gives him super strength

#21 Posted by gwilburn12 (36 posts) - - Show Bio

Well he has his powers back. But looks like he will be a good guy for now

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