How is she still 17?

#1 Posted by Squares (8392 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone remember how old she was back in Generation X? I mean, she's gotta be at LEAST 20 now, right?

#2 Posted by Duo_forbidden (1119 posts) - - Show Bio

I wondered that myself after reading Wolverine and Jubilee #1. I think I remember her being at least 15 in her mini series back in 2004/2005. I know comic book characters aged differently, but yea, I figured she would be 20ish as well.

#3 Posted by xerox_kitty (15762 posts) - - Show Bio

The comic aging process annoys me.  I shouldn't be older than characters I grew up with... Jubilee, Kitty Pryde, the New Mutants, half of Power Pack, Franklin Richards... they're all eternally young.

#4 Posted by Nerd Of A Hero (897 posts) - - Show Bio
@xerox-kitty:
Hahaha lol, you got that right. Jubilee and them should be at lease in their early to mid 20's by now. Then again, we don't wan to see them as old hag's now would we.
#5 Posted by xerox_kitty (15762 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nerd Of A Hero: What's wrong with seeing characters grow & mature?  We have black characters & gay characters to reflect a true slice of society.  But we rarely have characters that grow old.  It's a fact of life, we get older... so why can't comic characters grow old too?
#6 Posted by Nova`Prime` (4165 posts) - - Show Bio

Well she lives in a universe were children never grow old... so basically the Marvel U is Never Never Land. I mean Franklin Richards has been around since 68 and he's what, 4?

#7 Posted by jubilee042 (1345 posts) - - Show Bio

she was 13 in  generation x

#8 Posted by PumpkinBomb (486 posts) - - Show Bio

I calculated her as being 19, actually.

#9 Posted by Mr. Mercury (19639 posts) - - Show Bio

The writers decided she was, they're the Gods of the Comic universe!

#10 Posted by BiteMe-Fanboy (8086 posts) - - Show Bio

The same reason why Bart Simpson is the same age.

#11 Posted by iLLituracy (13494 posts) - - Show Bio

I felt the same way, but then I thought about it and 17 is about right. Comic characters can't age in real-time, I've come to realize this, time in comic books passes much too slowly for them to age in real time. Some people who've accepted this STILL think that that's much too young, but honestly if you're upset about Jubilee's age you have to be upset Tim Drake's age, as well. Both were introduced in the same year around the same age and if I'm not mistaken Tim's still 17 and even if he isn't, DC skipped forward a year and they're still roughly around the same age.

#12 Posted by SC (13368 posts) - - Show Bio

Yoga and Yak Milk.  
 
Plus I just remember how annoying she was in Generation X, not how old. 

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#13 Posted by Andferne (38808 posts) - - Show Bio
@xerox-kitty said:
"What's wrong with seeing characters grow & mature?"
Apparently it's bad for business. What happened to Spider-man and his relationship and marriage being thrown out the window is a prime example of this.
#14 Posted by Intensity (29 posts) - - Show Bio

Jubilee was 16 and a half in Generation X about 7-10 issues before the series ended. She actually mentioned her age on panel... something about having too much homework, etc. 
 
She is currently "17," which could mean anywhere from just-turned-17 to almost 18. I'm assuming it is the latter... since she and Emma were briefly discussing college in Wolverine and Jubilee #1. In any event, that would mean only a year or a little more has passed since Generation X ended. 
 
In that .5-1.5 year time frame, Jubilee would have experienced: 
-the end of Generation X 
-going to LA with Skin to attempt acting as a career 
-joining X-Corps with M and Husk to look after Banshee 
-going back to LA and getting kidnapped/crucified by the church of humanity 
-healing, attending Havok and Polaris' 'wedding and bachelorette party,' Skin's funeral, joining the X-Men to rescue Nightcrawler 
-hanging around the mansion and then being taken off active duty due to Cyclops feeling she needed a mental break 
-going to Beverly Hills to live with her Aunt, high school, peer advisor 
-going back to the mansion 
-loosing her powers due to M-Day 
-working at a clinic for depowered mutants, getting kidnapped and almost killed by Omega Red 
-healing and then joining/becoming field leader for the New Warriors; disbanding the group (after 20 issues worth of stories) 
-working at the clinic again and visiting with Wolverine a few times 
-visiting Utopia 
-meeting up with Pixie and then getting turned into a vampire via a vamp suicide bomber... to the events of Wolverine and Jubilee #1  
 
It doesn't seem very logical, especially looking at some of the things she has done in that group of events. She should be older than 17... however... I am happy so far with the miniseries and think she is getting a lot of attention.
 
#15 Posted by Jubilantlad (318 posts) - - Show Bio

Y'know, I blame comicbook aging. I mean, Prof X is still walking - _ -

#16 Posted by hydrabob--defunct (14833 posts) - - Show Bio

I am more interested in how old Bruce Wayne is supposed to be since he is from the 1930s era he should resemble his Batman Beyond looks by now

#17 Posted by The Myth (546 posts) - - Show Bio

I guess that means other Gen X members a.k.a Husk, M and Chamber are still 17 as well.
#18 Posted by oldgum (323 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Myth said:
" I guess that means other Gen X members a.k.a Husk, M and Chamber are still 17 as well. "
M looks far mature than 17 


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#19 Posted by TypingKira (3345 posts) - - Show Bio
@SC said:
" Yoga and Yak Milk.   Plus I just remember how annoying she was in Generation X, not how old.  "
OMG, where do you come up with this shtuff?  
 
I like that she's 17, it makes her more relatable to me. Sorry. 
#20 Posted by ghostrider fan1 (772 posts) - - Show Bio

look at skaar! he practically looks 12 but he is really only 2 how did that even happen? im guessing a lot of plot device

#21 Posted by SC (13368 posts) - - Show Bio
@TypingKira said:
" @SC said:
" Yoga and Yak Milk.   Plus I just remember how annoying she was in Generation X, not how old.  "
I like that she's 17, it makes her more relatable to me. Sorry.  "
 
I feel the same way with Death of The Endless. There aren't many ∞ Aged characters in comics. Me and my senior, senior, senior citizens gotta keep it real y'all.  
 
Jubes can pull of 17 tho' its just because I prefer M being older I sort of oh I know, one of them just time travelled! Sorted! Now one can be 20 something and Junes can be 17! ^_^
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#22 Posted by danhimself (22714 posts) - - Show Bio

I've never understood why people want characters to age....you can have character growth without the character aging so why is it so important for them to age...they're fictional characters so they'll be the age that whoever the current writer of the character is needs them to be....if a writer comes along ten years from now and decides that he wants to write a story where Jubilee is 12 then he'll figure out a way to make her 12...it's as easy as that

#23 Posted by The Myth (546 posts) - - Show Bio
@oldgum:
You can say that again, but i'm just going by the fact they were in the same year level during Generation X.  
And Jubilee looked much older than 17 in her stint in the New Warriors. 

 
#24 Posted by nikbackm (184 posts) - - Show Bio
@SC: I think it was stated during the beginning of Generation X that Jubilee was 13 or something close to that age. At least the Gen X:ers were not all the same age, Chamber being the oldest was just about to turn twenty. So Monet being some years older than Jubilee is not strange at all.
 
 @The Myth: That never happened! ;) And if it did, it must have been an alternate universe or sth.
#25 Posted by SC (13368 posts) - - Show Bio
@nikbackm:  LOL, uh yeah, I just prefer to think of them as identical twins, because they are so similar in personality and look ^_^ (Jubilee and Kitty always got treated a bit hard by different writers)
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#26 Posted by andrea_mendoza1997 (334 posts) - - Show Bio

1. Maybe becuase it comics I like it how they don't age quickly 
2.Does the vampire thing have anything to do with this I am not sure 
3.It's better if she stay that age

#27 Posted by TypingKira (3345 posts) - - Show Bio

Something else that should be pointed out is that different artists have trouble with keeping a character's age consistent or drawing a certain age. So a character can be intended to be a certain age, but an artist will draw them in such a way that they look a different age. 

#28 Edited by The Myth (546 posts) - - Show Bio

@nikbackm:


What do you mean it didn't happen? 
Jubilee was field leader of the New Warriors just after the Civil War and went by the name of Wondra, all of which took place on earth-616. 

   
 
   

 
#29 Posted by SC (13368 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Myth:  I think they were implying they didn't like it, so like many fans, pick and chose continuity (but did so in a fun, way since they know it happened, but is being a bit sarcastic hence the ;) I think, but *shrugs* 
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#30 Posted by The Myth (546 posts) - - Show Bio
@SC:
Ok, Thanks! ;) lol
#31 Edited by riri4life (7180 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm sure if there wasn't a batch of "new" mutant kids after her she'd still be like 13-15. lol If we went by real time (counting how old characters were when first introduced)...most characters would be like 60+  ...I just try to ignore the age thing. I think Jubes would be around 35 by now. lol

#32 Posted by MrFantastic (225 posts) - - Show Bio

 Ok, do we really want Sue Richards to be 67?  Emma Frost would look pretty sad being 57 and dressing like that. Catwoman would be a pretty hot 80 year old. Storm would be in her late 50's,  and Lois Lane should be in her early 90's (it is about time for her to give up on snagging Superman).  
 
We really don't want our heroes fighting evil in Depends™.  If you can suspend your disbelief to allow a man to fly or make laser beams come out of his eyes, you should be able to respect characters remaining timeless.

#33 Posted by KumoriKunoichi (588 posts) - - Show Bio
@Duo_forbidden said:
" I wondered that myself after reading Wolverine and Jubilee #1. I think I remember her being at least 15 in her mini series back in 2004/2005. I know comic book characters aged differently, but yea, I figured she would be 20ish as well. "
It says she's 17!? wtf.
 
 She has to be at least 21...seriously.
#34 Posted by Nova`Prime` (4165 posts) - - Show Bio
@danhimself said:
" I've never understood why people want characters to age....you can have character growth without the character aging so why is it so important for them to age...they're fictional characters so they'll be the age that whoever the current writer of the character is needs them to be....if a writer comes along ten years from now and decides that he wants to write a story where Jubilee is 12 then he'll figure out a way to make her 12...it's as easy as that "
I don't mind my characters not aging, but I see where a lot of people are coming from. I mean look at one of the most popular fantasy series in publications Dragon Lance, the characters they started with all those years ago are dead and gone and their children and other have taken over and that didn't hurt them. I think the main problem is writers and artiest don't want to come up with new characters every couple decades to make it slightly more realistic.
#35 Posted by Vitality (1764 posts) - - Show Bio

So...I'm guessing you have never read or heard of comics before.
#36 Posted by GREGalicious (492 posts) - - Show Bio

I can see why she would still be 17 seeing as how everybody else seems to only have aged a few years since their first appearance. Its a comic book thing.

#37 Posted by darth_brendroid (1692 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nova`Prime` said:
" Well she lives in a universe were children never grow old... so basically the Marvel U is Never Never Land. I mean Franklin Richards has been around since 68 and he's what, 4? "
I thought he was at least 10, probably about 12/13.
#38 Posted by Nova`Prime` (4165 posts) - - Show Bio
@darth_brendroid said:
" @Nova`Prime` said:
" Well she lives in a universe were children never grow old... so basically the Marvel U is Never Never Land. I mean Franklin Richards has been around since 68 and he's what, 4? "
I thought he was at least 10, probably about 12/13. "
Whatever and how long did that take.
#39 Posted by darth_brendroid (1692 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nova`Prime`:  It'd have taken about 40 years for him to get to 12/13 at the most. So roughly he's been getting older every 3.5 years. That's not really all that bad for a comic character in the Marvel Universe.
#40 Posted by Nova`Prime` (4165 posts) - - Show Bio
@darth_brendroid: I get what you're saying and sorry if I came off as a dick. I just don't understand why so many people try to figure out a characters "age" when some times it seems like months from comic to comic and then there is a six issue span that covers less then 24 hours.
#41 Posted by darth_brendroid (1692 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nova`Prime`: I guess it's just so they can see how long their characters have been active. That or just to wonder why they're being drawn how they are (for example; that scan above makes Jubilee look almost 22 at least, so why's she being drawn like that if she's 17?)
#42 Posted by playdohsrepublic (97 posts) - - Show Bio

I think that character only get as old as would be interesting for writers who have to use these characters for potentially eternity.
#43 Posted by ddaann1985 (125 posts) - - Show Bio
@xerox-kitty:  Well....they DO get older, for instance, Peter Parker, Cyclops, they all changed, and even Franklin, although he has been stuck as en 8yr old for some 20 years now (except for in the 1990's when he became a teenager).
Fact is, why is Batman, made up in the 1930's still young?....because, I think, the people like how their characters are now. And there is sort of a limit to how much a character may grow older...it happened to all of them in various degrees... but they have to stop at a certain point i think.
That being said, I wouldn't mind to , for instance, to see Franklin a bid older, at least older then his sister Valeria, whom now seems to look as old as he does somehow, even though she hasn't been around for more then 14 years....
#44 Posted by fodigg (6136 posts) - - Show Bio

She should be at least 20 by now.

#45 Posted by MyraMyraMyra (296 posts) - - Show Bio

I think that by now she should be in her early 20's simply because characters like M, Husk and Chamber, who I assume to be roughly the same age (or only slightly older at the very least) as her, are currently portrayed as twentysomethings. But I guess they're now writing her as someone who is still in her late teens.
 
I don't think that publishing "birthdates" matter when it comes to the ages of mainstream comic book characters. Time in comic boon universes doesn't run like time runs in real life because of the infinite structure of the stories. The stories are not planned to have definite endings because another writer is always going to continue where the last one ended, and that's why the characters go on existing from decade to decade. The in-universe present always resembles the present of the publication date, at least as far as things like fashion and pop culture references go. Time goes by in comics, but it has no decaying impact on the characters. The characters evolve, but they do not age significantly unless aging has something to do with a story, or their character developement. Characters can go through enough adventures to keep one busy for a whole decade and still act like not even a year has passed. They can also exist in several different places and teams around the world seemingly around the same time (yes, Wolverine, I am looking at you) without anyone even raising an eyebrow at the sheer impossibility of it. But none of that matters, because it's just the way time is in mainstream comics; it is not entirely consistent with time in real life. That's why Jubilee, despite everything she's been through, has apparently not aged past her teens during her publishing years.
 
I used to find the lack concistency with time and ages in mainstream comics extremely annoying, but I've since begun to find it intriguing. The academic geek I am, it reminds me of Mikhail Bakhtin and his concept of chronotope in literature, which means the different ways time and space are referred to in the bounds of language (or, as in this case,, types of literature). I think it's interesting how mainstream comics have developed this unique way of dealing with time, and how drastically it differs from the standards of Western storytelling which usually tends to be very linear, and specific about measures of time. The only thing that really annoys me about it is how child characters can't grow older unless they timetravel (hello, Layla Miller, Cable, and Hope Summers!).

#46 Posted by redleigh86 (562 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe now that she's a vampire, they'll let her start aging now lol Well, mentally/emotionally/etc since obviously she'll physically remain a teenager. But I've honestly never minded much, or even noticed really. She just is. Like everyone else in comics. It's like The Simpsons - they're that age forever. Sometimes they get older or younger, but in general they just stay that age and that's just how it is.

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