Would batman kill the joker...

#1 Posted by moywar700 (2775 posts) - - Show Bio

if he killed his entire bat family right in front of him?

#2 Posted by cattlebattle (12774 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably not.....because of his morals...besides, if Batman loses a sidekick, he has got like 9 more people to replace them

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#3 Posted by Greenflashlight (183 posts) - - Show Bio

The entire Bat family I think so he almost killed Nobody when the beat Damin I think if Joker killed him Bats would kill him, I think a most Joker would have to kill Damin and Alfred and Bruce would snap

#4 Posted by Saren (25674 posts) - - Show Bio

That's what happened in JLA: The Nail.

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#5 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope.  
Still, I'd be into an elsewords story where Joker kills Alfred. I'm curious to see how Bruce would handle that.

#6 Posted by BlackArmor (6141 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe if he was out of his mind with rage, but he would regret it later.

#7 Posted by Joygirl (19968 posts) - - Show Bio

He MIGHT. But if he stays in his wits he wouldn't. He'd have to go truly berserk and lose his mind.

#8 Posted by Dracade102 (8167 posts) - - Show Bio

The Joker would probably get beaten within an inch of his life, and become damaged beyond repair, but I doubt Batman would give him the pleasure of claiming the last laugh in their rivalry. Loosing loved ones isn't anything new to Batman, but loosing his self respect would ruin him.

#9 Posted by ArturoCalaKayVee (11591 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

That's what happened in JLA: The Nail.

This.

#10 Posted by joshmightbe (24885 posts) - - Show Bio

Nightwing technically beat Joker to death that one time so Joker may not be able to take out the entire Bat family. He was only dead for like a minute before Batman stupidly did cpr on him instead of just letting him stay dead tho.

#11 Posted by TDK_1997 (14896 posts) - - Show Bio

No.He has his morals.He would hunt Joker and beat the crap out of him but he won't kill him.

#12 Posted by aztek_the_lost (28224 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought the OP was going to say "raped/murdered children" due to that whole Flashpoint thing.

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#13 Posted by ReVamp (22865 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024 said:

Nope. Still, I'd be into an elsewords story where Joker kills Alfred. I'm curious to see how Bruce would handle that.

That gave me the idea... I'd be into an elseworlds story where Alfred kills Joker.

#14 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio
@ReVamp said:

@Gambit1024 said:

Nope. Still, I'd be into an elsewords story where Joker kills Alfred. I'm curious to see how Bruce would handle that.

That gave me the idea... I'd be into an elseworlds story where Alfred kills Joker.

You're mad. Simply mad. 
 
........I'd read it.........
#15 Posted by ReVamp (22865 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024 said:

@ReVamp said:

@Gambit1024 said:

Nope. Still, I'd be into an elsewords story where Joker kills Alfred. I'm curious to see how Bruce would handle that.

That gave me the idea... I'd be into an elseworlds story where Alfred kills Joker.

You're mad. Simply mad. ........I'd read it.........

Tell me that wouldn't be fantastic in a Millar sort of way...?

#16 Edited by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio
@ReVamp said:

@Gambit1024 said:

@ReVamp said:

@Gambit1024 said:

Nope. Still, I'd be into an elsewords story where Joker kills Alfred. I'm curious to see how Bruce would handle that.

That gave me the idea... I'd be into an elseworlds story where Alfred kills Joker.

You're mad. Simply mad. ........I'd read it.........

Tell me that wouldn't be fantastic in a Millar sort of way...?

I could see it now: 
 
Batman's out on patrol one night on the hunt for the Joker for the umpteenth time, and the two have a savage fight. Batman of course comes out the victor, and once again, Joker is taken to Arkham Asylum. The same old song and dance. Bruce comes home exhausted in the early morning, with narration by Alfred's inner monologue. Alfred feels bad for Bruce. He knows that he's been doing his parents' proud, but with maniacs like Joker or Two-Face or Riddler always on the prowl, Bruce can never achieve his goal of peace in Gotham. Bruce would never be the one to execute him, but things would certainly do better if someone would. Flash forward to a few months later. Batman's out tracking down Killer Croc in the sewers while Alfred's at Wayne Manor. The police scanner goes off, saying that Joker's escaped the Asylum again. Alfred decides that tonight's the night the madness ends. He arranges a meeting with the Joker. Joker babbles on about how the Bat's butler is so entirely brave for meeting with him, when Alfred looks at him coldly, pulls out his silenced pistol to Joker's amazement, and fires three bullets in Joker's chest, one in the head. "Talk about a punchline.. Heheh..." Joker says, taking a final breath. Joker's dead. 
 
Alfred gets home before Bruce does, and Bruce returns home early morning, exhausted from his battle with Croc. Not saying a word to anyone, Bruce goes to sleep. When he awakes, Alfred goes about his morning routine as if nothing's happened, when Bruce turns on the news. Joker's been shot and killed. DNA is a complete match. There were no witnesses, no gunshots heard, no nothing. The Joker's been murdered. As Gotham Police is on the scene, none of them are particularly worried about catching the culprit. "He was a demented freak of nature." Detective Bullock explains, "Who gives a shit about him? The Bat? Nah. We're all better off without the demented lunatic." Bruce is stunned. He goes to see for himself. Alfred says nothing. 
 
Batman arrives to the morgue, where his adversary's body lies stiff. Sneaking in undetected, Batman examines the body, noticing the gunshots. Whoever did it was an excellent shot. They hit him in all the right places. He took a sample of his blood, a piece of his clothing, and a lock of his hair. He brings the evidence back to the Cave. Joker's dead alright. This isn't a Clayface trick. It's the real deal. The gun which he'd been shot wasn't cheap. Very high-tech and hard to get. He quickly assumed it was Jason Todd, so Bruce sets out to interrogate his ex-sidekick. Todd denies all of it, and Bruce is getting frustrated. He's not lying. On his way back to the mansion, Nightwing stops Bruce to see how he's doing. Oddly enough, Bruce is angrier than usual. See, in a perfect world, Joker wouldn't exist, and Bruce would be ecstatic. Now that he's gone, though, things are hauntingly empty for him. It's unnerving. Bruce is on a roller coaster of emotion that he has no idea what to feel.  Joker was his equal in many ways, but an extreme opposite. In some sick, twisted way, they were friends.
 
Days turned into weeks, and Bruce has been doing his detective work day and night, not coming up with any progress. He's become obsessive. He's interrogated every possible suspect, including Tim Drake, Harley Quinn, and even Jim Gordon. Everyone except his butler, who was nothing but a father to him. He's shunned out everyone except for Alfred, who hasn't spoken much since the night he murdered the Joker. He's starting to crack though. See, with Joker dead, crime had dropped significantly. Why on Earth is Bruce still at this rubbish? He should be happy that that maniac is gone. Finally, after hours of agony, Alfred confesses.  At first, Bruce is in denial. How could he have done it so cleanly? When could he have done it? Why would he do it? Alfred calmly explains to Bruce that he's been his butler since he was born. He knew exactly how to clean up the mess without him ever knowing what happened. "I did it for your own good Master Bruce. He was a cancer to you and this city, and he had to be dealt with by means you would never go by. He was killing you." Furious, Bruce lunges at him, beating him nearly unconscious, "YOU MURDEROUS PIECE OF FILTH! WHAT GIVES YOU THE RIGHT?! WHY WOULD YOU EVER--?!" He stopped once the rage cleared, noticing Alfred's pulverized face. "I'm sorry Master Bruce. I truly am," Alfred gasps as he's been beaten to a bloody pulp, "But once you get passed this, you'll realize that I did it for you. Your parents would be so proud. I couldn't let his blood fall on your hands. I love you, son."  
 
He's gone.  
 
Alfred Pennyworth 1949-2012
#17 Posted by ReVamp (22865 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024: ....Wow. That ending was fcking powerful. Really.

#18 Posted by BlackArmor (6141 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024 said:

I could see it now: Batman's out on patrol one night on the hunt for the Joker for the umpteenth time, and the two have a savage fight. Batman of course comes out the victor, and once again, Joker is taken to Arkham Asylum. The same old song and dance. Bruce comes home exhausted in the early morning, with narration by Alfred's inner monologue. Alfred feels bad for Bruce. He knows that he's been doing his parents' proud, but with maniacs like Joker or Two-Face or Riddler always on the prowl, Bruce can never achieve his goal of peace in Gotham. Bruce would never be the one to execute him, but things would certainly do better if someone would. Flash forward to a few months later. Batman's out tracking down Killer Croc in the sewers while Alfred's at Wayne Manor. The police scanner goes off, saying that Joker's escaped the Asylum again. Alfred decides that tonight's the night the madness ends. He arranges a meeting with the Joker. Joker babbles on about how the Bat's butler is so entirely brave for meeting with him, when Alfred looks at him coldly, pulls out his silenced pistol to Joker's amazement, and fires three bullets in Joker's chest, one in the head. "Talk about a punchline.. Heheh..." Joker says, taking a final breath. Joker's dead. Alfred gets home before Bruce does, and Bruce returns home early morning, exhausted from his battle with Croc. Not saying a word to anyone, Bruce goes to sleep. When he awakes, Alfred goes about his morning routine as if nothing's happened, when Bruce turns on the news. Joker's been shot and killed. DNA is a complete match. There were no witnesses, no gunshots heard, no nothing. The Joker's been murdered. As Gotham Police is on the scene, none of them are particularly worried about catching the culprit. "He was a demented freak of nature." Detective Bullock explains, "Who gives a shit about him? The Bat? Nah. We're all better off without the demented lunatic." Bruce is stunned. He goes to see for himself. Alfred says nothing. Batman arrives to the morgue, where his adversary's body lies stiff. Sneaking in undetected, Batman examines the body, noticing the gunshots. Whoever did it was an excellent shot. They hit him in all the right places. He took a sample of his blood, a piece of his clothing, and a lock of his hair. He brings the evidence back to the Cave. Joker's dead alright. This isn't a Clayface trick. It's the real deal. The gun which he'd been shot wasn't cheap. Very high-tech and hard to get. He quickly assumed it was Jason Todd, so Bruce sets out to interrogate his ex-sidekick. Todd denies all of it, and Bruce is getting frustrated. He's not lying. On his way back to the mansion, Nightwing stops Bruce to see how he's doing. Oddly enough, Bruce is angrier than usual. See, in a perfect world, Joker wouldn't exist, and Bruce would be ecstatic. Now that he's gone, though, things are hauntingly empty for him. It's unnerving. Bruce is on a roller coaster of emotion that he has no idea what to feel. Days turned into weeks, and Bruce has been doing his detective work day and night, not coming up with any progress. He's become obsessive. He's interrogated every possible suspect, including Tim Drake, Harley Quinn, and even Jim Gordon. Everyone except his butler, who was nothing but a father to him. He's shunned out everyone except for Alfred, who hasn't spoken much since the night he murdered the Joker. He's starting to crack though. See, with Joker dead, crime had dropped significantly. Why on Earth is Bruce still at this rubbish? He should be happy that that maniac is gone. Finally, after hours of agony, Alfred confesses. At first, Bruce is in denial. How could he have done it so cleanly? When could he have done it? Why would he do it? Alfred calmly explains to Bruce that he's been his butler since he was born. He knew exactly how to clean up the mess without him ever knowing what happened. "I did it for your own good Master Bruce. He was a cancer to you and this city, and he had to be dealt with by means you would never go by. He was killing you." Furious, Bruce lunges at him, beating him nearly unconscious, "YOU MURDEROUS PIECE OF FILTH! WHAT GIVES YOU THE RIGHT?! WHY WOULD YOU EVER--?!" He stopped once the rage cleared, noticing Alfred's pulverized face. "I'm sorry Master Bruce. I truly am," Alfred gasps as he's been beaten to a bloody pulp, "But once you get passed this, you'll realize that I did it for you. Your parents would be so proud. I couldn't let his blood fall on your hands. I love you, son." He's gone. Alfred Pennyworth 1949-2012

O_O....that....was....freakin.....epic

#19 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio
@ReVamp@BlackArmor: Thanks guys... I should really be doing my homework now -__-
#20 Posted by ReVamp (22865 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024: No, noooo, noooo, come to the Dark side. Fck that shit and come eat cookies with us.

#21 Posted by BlackArmor (6141 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024 said:

@ReVamp: @BlackArmor: Thanks guys... I should really be doing my homework now -__-

Same here, its 9:30 where I am, and at this point I know I shan't be getting any sleep tonight :(

#22 Posted by entropy_aegis (15319 posts) - - Show Bio

He wont.

#23 Posted by Saren (25674 posts) - - Show Bio
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#24 Posted by ArturoCalaKayVee (11591 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024: Amazing story...like wow.

#25 Posted by sinestro_GL (3158 posts) - - Show Bio

If he wanted to, he would have done it by now...

...the whole kill vs not kill is an interesting mental issue for Batman.

#26 Posted by War Killer (20207 posts) - - Show Bio

No.

#27 Posted by joshmightbe (24885 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman not killing the Joker isn't what bothers me it's the several times Batman has actually saved the Joker's life that gets me. If someone is hunting down the Joker just let them do the job then bring them to justice (Tho if I were a Gothamite I'd consider Justice for who ever took out the Joker would be to throw them a parade)

#28 Posted by DeathpooltheT1000 (10834 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman knows that people on ugly costumes gets back from the grave.

For the same, there is no point in killing the Joker, becuase tha Batfamily will be back(I mean Alfred is cooler that the Aunt May and she is back).

Even if people stay dead, The Joker wants that, so he wins.

Is better to torture the Joker, for the fact he know that at the end he never wins.

#29 Posted by daredevil21134 (11819 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe if he killed Dick Grayson or Alfred

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