Super Sanity?

#1 Edited by Giuseppe Riccadonna (2071 posts) - - Show Bio

What the heck is Super Sanity? And why is it worst than being insane?

#2 Posted by G'bandit (13689 posts) - - Show Bio

Do I have to give this explication again..

Super sanity is worse than been insane because you can do anything you want and you wouldn't feel guilt.. Normally crazy people do things and then they are regretting it all their lives even if they did it willingly. If you are super saner you wont feel guilt and will laugh at death..

I explain it in a thread more detailed once and it nearly gave me a headache and I almost became psychotic trying to justify the death of others by the joker XD

But that's super sanity, kill with no remorse even if is a young boy on a bird costume




#3 Posted by likalaruku (759 posts) - - Show Bio

Super sanity is probably Grant Morrison's way of saying that while the Joker is a certified sociopath, he's still sane & has a really high IQ, or that he's like one of those stoned hippies who think they're more in-tune with the world when they're high. lol.

#4 Posted by NightFang (9630 posts) - - Show Bio

Super-sanity is DC way of saying " The Joker knows he's in a comic book".

#5 Posted by War Killer (19473 posts) - - Show Bio
@G'bandit said:
"Do I have to give this explication again..

Super sanity is worse than been insane because you can do anything you want and you wouldn't feel guilt.. Normally crazy people do things and then they are regretting it all their lives even if they did it willingly. If you are super saner you wont feel guilt and will laugh at death..

I explain it in a thread more detailed once and it nearly gave me a headache and I almost became psychotic trying to justify the death of others by the joker XD

But that's super sanity, kill with no remorse even if is a young boy on a bird costume

"
Well said
#6 Posted by tyciol (30 posts) - - Show Bio

I think it depends a lot on how sanity and insanity are defined. If we define sanity as normalcy then Joker's obviously insane, he's not your normal human being. If we however define it as correctly interpreting reality: Joker doesn't actually seem to be out of touch with reality. There are many villains out of touch with it and who commit heinous acts with a viewpoint that conflicts with reality that they think justifies it.  Maybe I missed it, but Joker just seems to have a very different set of right/wrong, justification, morality and purpose in his life.

#7 Posted by Deadman Wade (113 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, the Joker does what he does to make things more interesting. He doesn't like the life style of the cows that live average lives and do common average things. He wants to spice life up so to speak, and he knows he can get away with it the way he always does. To do things unthinkable, unpredictable, and controversial against an opponent who would risk his life to keep him alive just to temporarily put him away in a mad house makes him enjoy his misery of his failings of a normal life (death of his wife and disfigurement). Just my perspective.

#8 Edited by joshua50187 (1 posts) - - Show Bio

super sanity is not a sociopathic tendency to not feel remorse. super sanity is "seeing reality", when we "normal" people see something; anything, we rationalize and alter our beliefs based upon our own perception of reality, such as our view of justice.. good guys believe they are doing good and bad guys believe they are doing good also, the bad guys know that it is wrong in society, but they each do it for something they believe is good like money or fame or anything (justice like beauty is in the eye of the beholder, we claim justice when we won WW2 but if hitler had won he would have also called it justice), where as super sanity sees them both for what they really are without any personal views or opinions getting in the way. its hard to fathom or even to give a proper example of this but i'll try.. ex: a man holds a gun to someones head and pulls the trigger and they die, we "normal" people would see two things a murderer and a victim. whereas super sanity sees only a man pulling a trigger and a bullet passing through another mans head and that man dying.. you would say same thing right, not really there is not a distinction between culprit and victim.. think of it this way while every one else sees a murder happening super sanity sees a man getting in the way of the bullet even if they understand that the shot was meant to hit that person in the head.. i know that this doesnt explain it correctly or even effectively but when i visualize this type of scenario i laugh about it too so really i can see where the joker gets his sense of humor.. also the reason it is worse then insanity is because when people are insane their delusions are able to be corrupted like how batman defeats the ventriloquist by pitting his dual personality towards each other... try to visualize all of this while thinking of this quote "Genius doesn't determine what you do, but how effectively you do it" that the best way i can explain it hope it helps

#9 Edited by Imagine_Man15 (1777 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshua50187 said:

super sanity is not a sociopathic tendency to not feel remorse. super sanity is "seeing reality", when we "normal" people see something; anything, we rationalize and alter our beliefs based upon our own perception of reality, such as our view of justice.. good guys believe they are doing good and bad guys believe they are doing good also, the bad guys know that it is wrong in society, but they each do it for something they believe is good like money or fame or anything (justice like beauty is in the eye of the beholder, we claim justice when we won WW2 but if Hitler had won he would have also called it justice), where as super sanity sees them both for what they really are without any personal views or opinions getting in the way. its hard to fathom or even to give a proper example of this but I'll try.. ex: a man holds a gun to someones head and pulls the trigger and they die, we "normal" people would see two things a murderer and a victim. whereas super sanity sees only a man pulling a trigger and a bullet passing through another mans head and that man dying.. you would say same thing right, not really there is not a distinction between culprit and victim.. think of it this way while every one else sees a murder happening super sanity sees a man getting in the way of the bullet even if they understand that the shot was meant to hit that person in the head.. i know that this doesn't explain it correctly or even effectively but when i visualize this type of scenario i laugh about it too so really i can see where the joker gets his sense of humor..

This is one of the best explanations I've seen. The concept of "super sanity" is hard to define, but it all comes down to perception. Whereas normal people perceive some kind of boundary between the concepts of "right" and "wrong," someone looking through the lens of super sanity sees no such boundary, and in fact disregards "right" and "wrong" altogether. To the super-insane, there are no evil things or good things; there are only things.

#10 Posted by Rumble Man (11119 posts) - - Show Bio

@War Killer said:

Actually

Immoral = knows its wrong, does not care (light and dark, I chose dark)

Amoral = does not know what is right or wrong (the hell is light and dark? I only see orange and pink)

@joshua50187:

So open minded neutralness based on affirmed facts and logic?

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Its just random psycho-babble to justify joker's mindset which is random

#11 Posted by Twentyfive (2405 posts) - - Show Bio

Super sanity is just another one of those dumb things or terms that can be attributed as Grant Morrison's. Right up there, but not quite on par with the stupidity that is Damian Wayne.

#12 Posted by m_plutar (2 posts) - - Show Bio

@g_bandit said:

Do I have to give this explication again..

Super sanity is worse than been insane because you can do anything you want and you wouldn't feel guilt.. Normally crazy people do things and then they are regretting it all their lives even if they did it willingly. If you are super saner you wont feel guilt and will laugh at death..

I explain it in a thread more detailed once and it nearly gave me a headache and I almost became psychotic trying to justify the death of others by the joker XD

But that's super sanity, kill with no remorse even if is a young boy on a bird costume

no, thats not super sanity...... thats sounds more like antisocial personality disorder, a mental illness upon which the individual has no regard for right or wrong. It is very common for a person with this particular illness to often become engaged in illegal behavior that eventually leads them behind bars. In addition, a person who has this disorder can be violent, liars, cheaters and are generally not able to behave or function in a work or educational environment. Depending on the severity, this type of behavior can "sometimes" be known as Sociopathic Personality Disorder.

#13 Posted by TheAcidSkull (15869 posts) - - Show Bio

It means that no rules apply to you.

#14 Posted by Pyrogram (32213 posts) - - Show Bio

It means that no rules apply to you.

Rules apply to Joker he just does not listen.

#15 Posted by TheAcidSkull (15869 posts) - - Show Bio

@pyrogram said:

@theacidskull said:

It means that no rules apply to you.

Rules apply to Joker he just does not listen.

If he doesn't listen i means it doesn't apply to him :P, he is incapable of understanding of why killing someone is bad.

#16 Posted by Pyrogram (32213 posts) - - Show Bio

@pyrogram said:

@theacidskull said:

It means that no rules apply to you.

Rules apply to Joker he just does not listen.

If he doesn't listen i means it doesn't apply to him :P, he is incapable of understanding of why killing someone is bad.

The joker is more than aware that is what super sanity means, and it does apply to him. He will go jail if he is caught.

#17 Posted by TheAcidSkull (15869 posts) - - Show Bio

@pyrogram said:

@theacidskull said:

@pyrogram said:

@theacidskull said:

It means that no rules apply to you.

Rules apply to Joker he just does not listen.

If he doesn't listen i means it doesn't apply to him :P, he is incapable of understanding of why killing someone is bad.

The joker is more than aware that is what super sanity means, and it does apply to him. He will go jail if he is caught.

Thats not what i meant when i said RULES don't apply to him, meant that Morals don't apply to him, human morals.

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