I think Heith Ledger got his Joker from the Crow!!!

#1 Posted by TGalinsky (236 posts) - - Show Bio

#2 Posted by Agent Buttons (13479 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok
#3 Posted by Lyrad (369 posts) - - Show Bio

I think that you didn't really put much thought in to this thread.... 
 
As you obviously believe that the late Heath Ledger was not only a quality actor, but also a qualified costume designer.    *sigh*
#4 Posted by skprgb (98 posts) - - Show Bio

ridiculous!!!

#5 Posted by BiteMe-Fanboy (7837 posts) - - Show Bio

maybe the makeup was a tad bit based on crow. but other than that nawwwwwww

#6 Posted by TazzMission (5488 posts) - - Show Bio

makeup wise yes charachter wise no
#7 Posted by Lyrad (369 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't understand..... Make up wise?  The joker wears white make up so does The Crow.  How is that a rip of of the Crow?   The Crow has long black lines running over his his..... The Joker has bright red lips and round make up around his eyes.  This thread is just stupid.
#8 Posted by TGalinsky (236 posts) - - Show Bio

They both have the same hair and the same smile painted on them

#9 Posted by The_MVPs (84693 posts) - - Show Bio

There are some minor similarities, but the Crow's face paint was copied from one half of the famous opera masks of "Comedy and Tragedy I believe."

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#10 Posted by dementedtheclown (747 posts) - - Show Bio

He "studied" Brandon Lee's Performance In The Crow, And Died Making This Movie, As Did Brandon In His.
 But I Didnt Like This Joker. I Call Him The Butt-F*** Mountain Joker. Jack Nicholson FTW!
 
 You Know, Heath Ledger Pulled The Disappearing Pencil Trick In Brokeback Mountain, Too..... Or So I've Heard.
May He Rest In Peace
 
Also Its Not Fair Comparing Him To Brandon Lee, Just Because He Died. At Least Brandon Lee Didn't O.D.

#11 Posted by G'bandit (13689 posts) - - Show Bio

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Dude they just didn't want the whole "drop in a tub of acid" thing happening all over again. They figure the purpose of that is just to get the smile, so they made the scars instead. The paint is based on the Joker nothing else. They just wanted a clown, and what do clowns do??? Clown paint their faces. It doesn't take a genius to figure that. Not to mention that Heath was just the actor behind it he gave it life with his acting, the rest were the costume designers and make up artist.
 
Joker's paint is red black and white and the hair is green, if it was based on something it was on the comic's Joker nothing else, specially not  in the Crow which is a TOTAL different character.
 

 





#12 Posted by G'bandit (13689 posts) - - Show Bio
@dementedtheclown said:

" He "studied" Brandon Lee's Performance In The Crow, And Died Making This Movie, As Did Brandon In His.  But I Didnt Like This Joker. I Call Him The Butt-F*** Mountain Joker. Jack Nicholson FTW!    You Know, Heath Ledger Pulled The Disappearing Pencil Trick In Brokeback Mountain, Too..... Or So I've Heard. May He Rest In Peace  Also Its Not Fair Comparing Him To Brandon Lee, Just Because He Died. At Least Brandon Lee Didn't O.D. "

I would like to know where does it says that he studied the Crow and in what exactly does a undead--goth-- martial artist (The Crow) is similar to a psychotic--trigger happy--killer clown (The Joker) 

By the way the dark knight was already done when Heath died and he was actually already making another movie. Heath had problems sleeping, he had too much energy and that is incredibly annoying not to be able to sleep. I suffer from insomnia myself. He was not just some junkie, he actually had problems.
 
Brandon Lee did not just die he was killed in the set by a live bullet.
#13 Posted by dementedtheclown (747 posts) - - Show Bio

1) Read It Somewhere, Could've Just Been A Rumor. 
 
2) Autopsy Report "Mr. Heath Ledger died as the result of acute intoxication by the combined effects of oxycodone, hydrocodone, diazepam, temazepam, alprazolam and doxylamine." It states definitively: "We have concluded that the manner of death is accident, resulting from the abuse of prescription medications." 
 
3) Knew That, Who Has Heard Of The Lee Family Curse? lol Weather Its Real Or Not.

#14 Posted by G'bandit (13689 posts) - - Show Bio

1) It was a rumor, I read it also and is not true because Heath said that he was forming the character as a psychopath. Crow is just an avenger.
 
2) Heath's own words:
 
"Last week I probably slept an average of two hours a night. ... I couldn't stop thinking. My body was exhausted, and my mind was still going." 
 
 It was stress and Insomnia. Not that he liked to drug-up just for fun. I know insomnia and is not fun at all... It sucks..
 
3) Its BS because Shannon Lee (The daughter of Bruce and sister to Brandon) is an actress, singer and dancer. And she still alive. I've always say they were just jealous of him and they decided to kill him.

#15 Posted by Stormultt (5317 posts) - - Show Bio

i miss heath ledger, especially from brokeback mountain *tear*
#16 Posted by TazzMission (5488 posts) - - Show Bio
@Lyrad said:
"I don't understand..... Make up wise?  The joker wears white make up so does The Crow.  How is that a rip of of the Crow?   The Crow has long black lines running over his his..... The Joker has bright red lips and round make up around his eyes.  This thread is just stupid. "

what i mean is both have similar white make up but diffrent visuals like you stated. im not calling it a rip off im just saying theres a  simularitie to the joker charachter that looks like the crow. i think heaths joker is truley one of the best the op ( orginal poster) called it a rip off
#17 Posted by johnny_spam (2035 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not seeing it. I read  he based his performance on Sid Vicious and Alex De Large from A Clockwork Orange.

#18 Posted by Lyrad (369 posts) - - Show Bio
@TazzMission said:
"@Lyrad said:
"I don't understand..... Make up wise?  The joker wears white make up so does The Crow.  How is that a rip of of the Crow?   The Crow has long black lines running over his his..... The Joker has bright red lips and round make up around his eyes.  This thread is just stupid. "
what i mean is both have similar white make up but diffrent visuals like you stated. im not calling it a rip off im just saying theres a  simularitie to the joker charachter that looks like the crow. i think heaths joker is truley one of the best the op ( orginal poster) called it a rip off "
 
 I suppose.  
But the only similarity I see is the white face and long hair. Thats it. 
 

@G'bandit
said:
"1) It was a rumor, I read it also and is not true because Heath said that he was forming the character as a psychopath. Crow is just an avenger.  2) Heath's own words: "Last week I probably slept an average of two hours a night. ... I couldn't stop thinking. My body was exhausted, and my mind was still going."     It was stress and Insomnia. Not that he liked to drug-up just for fun. I know insomnia and is not fun at all... It sucks.. 3) Its BS because Shannon Lee (The daughter of Bruce and sister to Brandon) is an actress, singer and dancer. And she still alive. I've always say they were just jealous of him and they decided to kill him. "

And yes G'Bandit.  I totally agree with everything you have said. Good call.   I'm also an insomniac.  It's actually 2:55am right now in the UK as I'm typing this on my laptop. And I'm up for work at 6:30am. Top one!

 
#19 Posted by Vance Astro (91230 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm happy for you Brandon Lee and i'mma let you finish but Heath Ledger had the best death of all time.

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#20 Edited by likalaruku (759 posts) - - Show Bio

Once upon a time, there was a bad little boy named Ledgoker. He got his violent streek from his father; The Crow, & from his mother; Beetlejuice, came his sence of humor. Sadly, he did not inherit their voices or good looks, & so he turned to crime.

#21 Posted by VaizD (249 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm going to be the first to point out that OP can't spell Heath, thereby rendering this topic stupid.

#22 Posted by .Mistress Redhead. (27119 posts) - - Show Bio
@Lyrad said:
" I think that you didn't really put much thought in to this thread....  As you obviously believe that the late Heath Ledger was not only a quality actor, but also a qualified costume designer.    *sigh* "
i think you mean makeup artist.... 
 
 
and i agree, if your going to make a thread like this put some real thought into it please
#23 Posted by BIackFlash (1909 posts) - - Show Bio
@johnny spam said:
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I'm not seeing it. I read  he based his performance on Sid Vicious and Alex De Large from A Clockwork Orange.

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a mix of Alan Moore's Killing Joke and Frank Miller's work IMO
#24 Posted by Lyrad (369 posts) - - Show Bio
@.Mistress Redhead. said:
" @Lyrad said:
" I think that you didn't really put much thought in to this thread....  As you obviously believe that the late Heath Ledger was not only a quality actor, but also a qualified costume designer.    *sigh* "
i think you mean makeup artist....   and i agree, if your going to make a thread like this put some real thought into it please "

Haharr!     I stand corrected........   You got the idea though!
#25 Posted by TGalinsky (236 posts) - - Show Bio
@dementedtheclown: i wasn't comparing them because he died. It has nothing to do with it, your the one who thinks that it's all about death
#26 Posted by goldenkey (2927 posts) - - Show Bio

If anything, the Crow looks like the Joker, not the other way around. 
#27 Posted by grammygutter (3 posts) - - Show Bio
@TGalinsky: These crows make good jokes
#28 Posted by UnsolvedParadox (262 posts) - - Show Bio

A bit, but that's not what defines Heath Ledger's portrayal of the character (any more than Steve Borden wearing the outfit in WCW and TNA Wrestling).

#29 Posted by TGalinsky (236 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro: what about michael jackson lol
#30 Edited by MysterioMaximus (931 posts) - - Show Bio

 
If anything, they (visually) ripped off Beetlejuice for this Joker.
#31 Posted by TGalinsky (236 posts) - - Show Bio
@MysterioMaximus: holy @#$%
#32 Posted by modernww2fare (1177 posts) - - Show Bio

If anything, they (visually) ripped off Beetlejuice for this Joker.

Beetlejuice and The Crow's child=The Joker

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