John Romita Sr's Variant Cover for Avengers #1

#1 Posted by sora_thekey (8185 posts) - - Show Bio

I have pointed out various times on the site that I don't like John Romita Jr's art... I do think is good, I think all looks good in proportion, but when it comes to rating it... it looks sloppy and everything that happens from the shoulders up, looks wrong.
 
I am going to read the new Avengers title, but to my dismay I will have to endure Romita Jr's art through it! On the other hand John Romita Sr's art... I love!
Classics are always good:

 

Marvel.com shows off the variant cover to the upcoming Avengers #1, as drawn by John Romita Sr., legendary artist and father of the comic's artist, John Romita Jr.

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I think that if I had the money I would in fact get this cover rather than Jr.'s...
What do you think?
#2 Posted by Vance Astro (91405 posts) - - Show Bio

This cover is awful.

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#3 Posted by The_Martian (36984 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:
" This cover is awful. "
I agree. Why does it feel like the actual Avengers are getting the worst art out of all of them?
#4 Posted by Son_of_Magnus (15040 posts) - - Show Bio

Nice JR SR is a beast

#5 Posted by danhimself (22714 posts) - - Show Bio

that cover isn't very good but I usually like JR JR's work especially on Spider-man

#6 Edited by Vance Astro (91405 posts) - - Show Bio
@danhimself said:

" that cover isn't very good but I usually like JR JR's work especially on Spider-man "

Agreed but especially on DD :) 
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#7 Posted by Vance Astro (91405 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nobody said:
Why does it feel like the actual Avengers are getting the worst art out of all of them? "
Because Heroic Age is the new Heroes Reborn and Heroes Reborn kicked off with Leifeld's art.
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#8 Posted by Omega Ray Jay (7964 posts) - - Show Bio

Better than his sons id say.

#9 Posted by Vance Astro (91405 posts) - - Show Bio
@Omega Ray Jay said:
" Better than his sons id say. "
uh uh....
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#10 Posted by DevilmanEX (597 posts) - - Show Bio

JR SR definitely draws the new Iron man armor better than JR JR does.  I love JR JR but the promo shots of his drawings for Iron Man's new armor I find atrocious.

#11 Posted by sora_thekey (8185 posts) - - Show Bio
@Omega Ray Jay said:
" Better than his sons id say. "
Yep!
#12 Posted by The Jeff (290 posts) - - Show Bio

Romita Sr. is the best, this cover though....not so much

#13 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29510 posts) - - Show Bio

I actually prefer Jr over Sr. Dunno why.

#14 Posted by reaper2923 (2778 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:
"This cover is awful. "

It's meant to have a classical look, you have to respect the classics
#15 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29510 posts) - - Show Bio
@reaper2923 said:
" @Vance Astro said:
"This cover is awful. "
It's meant to have a classical look, you have to respect the classics "
Well, then the classics are awful. Sorry. =P
#16 Posted by spidey 15 (17693 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nobody said:
" @Vance Astro said:
" This cover is awful. "
I agree. Why does it feel like the actual Avengers are getting the worst art out of all of them? "

Actually spider-man is getting the worst art since the Gauntlet begun...=[
#17 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29510 posts) - - Show Bio
@spidey 15 said:
" @Nobody said:
" @Vance Astro said:
" This cover is awful. "
I agree. Why does it feel like the actual Avengers are getting the worst art out of all of them? "
Actually spider-man is getting the worst art since the Gauntlet begun...=[ "
Untrue. Aside from that Electro story art, his art has been great.
#18 Posted by reaper2923 (2778 posts) - - Show Bio
@InnerVenom123 said:
" @reaper2923 said:
" @Vance Astro said:
"This cover is awful. "
It's meant to have a classical look, you have to respect the classics "
Well, then the classics are awful. Sorry. =P "

Well he was a legend in his own time people are just used to the newer art
#19 Edited by InnerVenom123 (29510 posts) - - Show Bio
@reaper2923 said:

" @InnerVenom123 said:

" @reaper2923 said:
" @Vance Astro said:
"This cover is awful. "
It's meant to have a classical look, you have to respect the classics "
Well, then the classics are awful. Sorry. =P "
Well he was a legend in his own time people are just used to the newer art "
I know, his art is good, I was jk. I do prefer his son's though. Especially when it comes to this cover, aside from the Iron Man armor.
#20 Posted by reaper2923 (2778 posts) - - Show Bio
@InnerVenom123 said:
"@reaper2923 said:

" @InnerVenom123 said:

" @reaper2923 said:
" @Vance Astro said:
"This cover is awful. "
It's meant to have a classical look, you have to respect the classics "
Well, then the classics are awful. Sorry. =P "
Well he was a legend in his own time people are just used to the newer art "
I know, his art is good, I was jk. I do prefer his son's though. Especially when it comes to this cover, aside from the Iron Man armor. "

Yeah his art looks a little too much like Kirby's
#21 Posted by spidey 15 (17693 posts) - - Show Bio
@InnerVenom123:
Personally i think the only good art it was in ASM #617. Maybe if the coloring was better so the whole art.... 
 
Anyway this is off-topic...JR SR made a pretty cool Iron-man...=]
#22 Posted by LT1085 (3635 posts) - - Show Bio

Both of the Romita's (junior and senior)art makes my skin crawl and feel insulted as an artist and a comic fan. Senior has my repect but needs to retire...Junior needs to take a f*cking art class and get into the industry they way everyone else did and not because you're someone important's 'kid'.

#23 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29510 posts) - - Show Bio
@LT1085 said:
" Both of the Romita's (junior and senior)art makes my skin crawl and feel insulted as an artist and a comic fan. Senior has my repect but needs to retire...Junior needs to take a f*cking art class and get into the industry they way everyone else did and not because you're someone important's 'kid'. "
What's wrong with Jr's art?
#24 Posted by LT1085 (3635 posts) - - Show Bio
@InnerVenom123 said:
" @LT1085 said:
" Both of the Romita's (junior and senior)art makes my skin crawl and feel insulted as an artist and a comic fan. Senior has my repect but needs to retire...Junior needs to take a f*cking art class and get into the industry they way everyone else did and not because you're someone important's 'kid'. "
What's wrong with Jr's art? "
Its is an atrocity to the art world. He is considered a professional and makes his living off of it. Imagine going to a really nice restaurant were a famous chef is preparing your favorite meal, you are paying for it out of your own pocket but it is ok because you really like this restaurant and it should be well worth it...BUT it turns out that this famous chef never went to cooking school and all of his food tastes like sh!t, but his dad was a pretty good cook, back in his day........
#25 Edited by InnerVenom123 (29510 posts) - - Show Bio
@LT1085 said:

" @InnerVenom123 said:

" @LT1085 said:
" Both of the Romita's (junior and senior)art makes my skin crawl and feel insulted as an artist and a comic fan. Senior has my repect but needs to retire...Junior needs to take a f*cking art class and get into the industry they way everyone else did and not because you're someone important's 'kid'. "
What's wrong with Jr's art? "
Its is an atrocity to the art world. He is considered a professional and makes his living off of it. Imagine going to a really nice restaurant were a famous chef is preparing your favorite meal, you are paying for it out of your own pocket but it is ok because you really like this restaurant and it should be well worth it...BUT it turns out that this famous chef never went to cooking school and all of his food tastes like sh!t, but his dad was a pretty good cook, back in his day........ "
You didn't answer my question, you just further described your hatred of his art and came up with a metaphor. What's wrong with JRJR's art? And if "It's is an atrocity to the art world." is your answer, then I'm afraid I'd like you to be more specific, please :)
#26 Posted by spidey 15 (17693 posts) - - Show Bio
@LT1085:
Actually JR JR is pretty good on body i believe.... i hate his art on face.... that's why i believe he makes great work on spidey...b/c his mask covers his whole face..=]
#27 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

JRJR is one of my favourite artists, and I always thought that JRSR's art was sweet in the older issues. This cover at first is pretty striking because of how "no-frills" it is, but I really like it. Something about the classic style it's giving off....I'm digging it. Sweet.

#28 Posted by The Jeff (290 posts) - - Show Bio

@ reaper2923   
Romita's art looks nothing like Kirby's. 
Romita (sadly) has lost his touch. His art has too much of a strong resemblance to his son's, which is simplistic and sometimes uninspired. This cover just shows that his skill (again sad to say) is declining :(

#29 Posted by Caligula (12386 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:
" This cover is awful. "
#30 Posted by LT1085 (3635 posts) - - Show Bio
@InnerVenom123 said:

" @LT1085 said:

" @InnerVenom123 said:

" @LT1085 said:

" Both of the Romita's (junior and senior)art makes my skin crawl and feel insulted as an artist and a comic fan. Senior has my repect but needs to retire...Junior needs to take a f*cking art class and get into the industry they way everyone else did and not because you're someone important's 'kid'. "
What's wrong with Jr's art? "
Its is an atrocity to the art world. He is considered a professional and makes his living off of it. Imagine going to a really nice restaurant were a famous chef is preparing your favorite meal, you are paying for it out of your own pocket but it is ok because you really like this restaurant and it should be well worth it...BUT it turns out that this famous chef never went to cooking school and all of his food tastes like sh!t, but his dad was a pretty good cook, back in his day........ "
You didn't answer my question, you just further described your hatred of his art and came up with a metaphor. What's wrong with JRJR's art? And if "It's is an atrocity to the art world." is your answer, than I'm afraid I'd like you to be more specific, please :) "
haha I suppose I did. His understanding of anatomy is almost indefensible, If it weren't for Rob Liefeld existing, I'm sure SOMEONE would have said something to him about it by now. Everything he does is sloppy and only makes sense at times because people have seen the way other people have drawn characters and environments, so they know what he is attempting to do. How can someone who has been doing this for as long as he has, with eyes that see the world around him everyday, still be so horrible at interpreting it, and not get fired? To me, this guy has ruined every comic that he has ever drawn. We can see a comparison of other top industry artists, to what ever the hell you want to call what JRJR does...
 
 Marko Djurdjevic  
        
 
 Steve McNiven
 

    
 
 
JRJR. 
 

      
#31 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29510 posts) - - Show Bio
@LT1085 said:
" @InnerVenom123 said:

" @LT1085 said:

" @InnerVenom123 said:

" @LT1085 said:

" Both of the Romita's (junior and senior)art makes my skin crawl and feel insulted as an artist and a comic fan. Senior has my repect but needs to retire...Junior needs to take a f*cking art class and get into the industry they way everyone else did and not because you're someone important's 'kid'. "
What's wrong with Jr's art? "
Its is an atrocity to the art world. He is considered a professional and makes his living off of it. Imagine going to a really nice restaurant were a famous chef is preparing your favorite meal, you are paying for it out of your own pocket but it is ok because you really like this restaurant and it should be well worth it...BUT it turns out that this famous chef never went to cooking school and all of his food tastes like sh!t, but his dad was a pretty good cook, back in his day........ "
You didn't answer my question, you just further described your hatred of his art and came up with a metaphor. What's wrong with JRJR's art? And if "It's is an atrocity to the art world." is your answer, than I'm afraid I'd like you to be more specific, please :) "
haha I suppose I did. His understanding of anatomy is almost indefensible, If it weren't for Rob Liefeld existing, I'm sure SOMEONE would have said something to him about it by now. Everything he does is sloppy and only makes sense at times because people have seen the way other people have drawn characters and environments, so they know what he is attempting to do. How can someone who has been doing this for as long as he has, with eyes that see the world around him everyday, still be so horrible at interpreting it, and not get fired? To me, this guy has ruined every comic that he has ever drawn. We can see a comparison of other top industry artists, to what ever the hell you want to call what JRJR does...
 
 Marko Djurdjevic  
        
 
 Steve McNiven
 

    
 
 
JRJR. 
 

       "
Um.... I don't get how JRJR's art is bad compared to that. I know the anatomy is off a little bit, but I like the style. I guess it just looks different, but in a good way, at least imo.
 
BTW, what do you think of this artist's work?
 

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#32 Posted by LT1085 (3635 posts) - - Show Bio
@InnerVenom123: I guess we see things differently. I am not a real fan of that artist either though i greatly prefer it over JRJR's. The problem I have with that artist's style is that the artist goes overboard on the surrealism way to often and I frequently find myself wondering what the hell it is that I'm looking.
#33 Posted by pinchpaker29 (465 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel should give doing the art for the main Avengers title other people... Sorry if it offends any fans but, it does suck... bot Jr's and Sr's cover...  be honest with thy selves... :)

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