Greatest Jedi Knight ever !

Posted by Out_of_Space (720 posts) - - Show Bio

Who is the strongest Jedi Knight ever ? Many great Jedi we're born in the Star Wars but who could we called the greatest. I think it depends on some rules:
- Wisdom
- Strength
- Controling the Force
- Intellect
- and many more. ( you can add if you want more in the comments )
Who do you think is the greatest Jedi ever and explain why ?

#1 Posted by RedheadedAtrocitus (6885 posts) - - Show Bio

I hate to say it but in all the categories you mention I believe Luke Skywalker to be the strongest Jedi ever.  Sure, his training may have started way later than other Jedi traditionally have, but we must remember that he is Anakin Skywalker's son, the one destined to bring balance to the Force.  With him having eventually turned to the dark side it was only natural  that a child of evil be the finest of the side of righteousness.  Eventually Luke becomes wise and strong with his mastery of the Force, especially when one looks at feats he performed later on (such as the War against the Yuu'zhan Vong where I believe he summoned emerald lightning which I believe was something no Jedi before him was able to do).  Based on his feats in the EU it would seem then that Luke eventually would become the strongest Jedi even if in my mind I'm very reluctant to admit it.

#2 Posted by sesquipedalophobe (4727 posts) - - Show Bio

Luke Skywalker showed Vader the light with his metachlorian tears. He has my vote.

#3 Posted by Jnr6Lil (7705 posts) - - Show Bio

It's between Luke Skywalker, Anakin, and Darth Caedus. Hell those would be my canidates for greatest Force Sensitive.

#4 Posted by TDK_1997 (14891 posts) - - Show Bio

 Luke Skywalker is the strongest one

#5 Edited by Billy Batson (58021 posts) - - Show Bio

JediXMan...He will tell you why...

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#6 Posted by JediXMan (30584 posts) - - Show Bio

Luke Skywalker is the greatest.

@Jnr6Lil said:

It's between Luke Skywalker, Anakin, and Darth Caedus. Hell those would be my canidates for greatest Force Sensitive.

1. Anakin doesn't come close.
2. .... how can Darth Caedus be the strongest Jedi Knight?
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#7 Posted by Aiden Cross (15569 posts) - - Show Bio

Jedi Knight or Jedi Master.. Because i consider Luke the best Jedi Master but i'm not sure about Knight..

#8 Edited by JediXMan (30584 posts) - - Show Bio
@Aiden Cross said:

Jedi Knight or Jedi Master.. Because i consider Luke the best Jedi Master but i'm not sure about Knight..

Depends on how you use the term "Jedi Knight." By most, it's just a general term for Jedi - though, yes, it is a title like Master.
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#9 Posted by Jnr6Lil (7705 posts) - - Show Bio


JediXMan: Hmm, Anakin was the one who borught balance to the force and it's been said if  he kne whis full potential and din't fall to the dark side he would be the greattest, most powerful force sensitive in Sith and Jedi history.

 

Also Darth Caedus when still Jacen Solo mastered Force Light achieving Oneness with the Light and Dark Side of the Force.

#10 Posted by Caligula (12417 posts) - - Show Bio

Jacen Solo

#11 Posted by Aiden Cross (15569 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan said:
@Aiden Cross said:

Jedi Knight or Jedi Master.. Because i consider Luke the best Jedi Master but i'm not sure about Knight..

Depends on how you use the term "Jedi Knight." By most, it's just a general term for Jedi - though, yes, it is a title like Master.
Well I sort of see it as Ranks within the jedi order. A master holds higher esteem than a knight... but yeah, i'm probably looking too much into it lol :p
#12 Posted by JediXMan (30584 posts) - - Show Bio
@Jnr6Lil:

Anakin never reached his potential. Any and all speculation for what kind of power he would have had is just that - speculation, and therefore has no basis in fact. Anakin can be the "Chosen One" all he wants. He has no feats to put him anywhere near the power of Luke. As a Knight, Luke beat Vader. That was only after a year of training; now flash forward with over 40 years of training, and Luke has no equal.

Jacen achieved that power as a Knight, this is true. But he still wasn't anywhere near Luke's power until he became a Sith Lord. Even as a Sith Lord he lost to Luke; only reason he gained an upper hand was because of the environment, not through his own power.
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#13 Posted by JediXMan (30584 posts) - - Show Bio
@Caligula said:
Jacen Solo
He came close as Caedus, but he never reached Luke's power.
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#14 Posted by Caligula (12417 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan said:
@Caligula said:
Jacen Solo
He came close as Caedus, but he never reached Luke's power.
I was more so going on my personal feelings than power. But I guess that would be "favorite" and not Greatest eh?
#15 Posted by JediXMan (30584 posts) - - Show Bio
@Caligula said:
@JediXMan said:
@Caligula said:
Jacen Solo
He came close as Caedus, but he never reached Luke's power.
I was more so going on my personal feelings than power. But I guess that would be "favorite" and not Greatest eh?
Ah. Well, Jacen is one of my favorites, too. I don't know who my #1 is, but he's up there.
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#16 Posted by Caligula (12417 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan said:
@Caligula said:
@JediXMan said:
@Caligula said:
Jacen Solo
He came close as Caedus, but he never reached Luke's power.
I was more so going on my personal feelings than power. But I guess that would be "favorite" and not Greatest eh?
Ah. Well, Jacen is one of my favorites, too. I don't know who my #1 is, but he's up there.
cool. good to see another Jacen fan.

I also like Mace Windu and Ki adi Mundi quite a lot.
#17 Posted by JediXMan (30584 posts) - - Show Bio
@Caligula:

Mace is okay. I really don't hold any feelings one way or the other for Mundi.

I was asked the other day who my favorites were. This was my list: (in no order)

Boba Fett
Luke Skywalker
Kal Skirata
Ordo Skirata
Kyle Katarn
Antares Draco
Roan Fel
Jacen Solo
Revan
Canderous Ordo
HK-47
The Exile
Darth Bane
Ulic Qel-Droma
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#18 Posted by Aiden Cross (15569 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan: What did you think was the appeal for you of Antares Draco if I may ask?
#19 Posted by Caligula (12417 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan said:
@Caligula: Mace is okay. I really don't hold any feelings one way or the other for Mundi. I was asked the other day who my favorites were. This was my list: (in no order)Boba FettLuke SkywalkerKal SkirataOrdo SkirataKyle KatarnAntares DracoRoan FelJacen SoloRevanCanderous OrdoHK-47The ExileDarth BaneUlic Qel-Droma
cool. If were talking non force users though I have like dozens I like better that Jacen.

My all time favorites Bossk, and Ysanne Isard.
#20 Posted by JediXMan (30584 posts) - - Show Bio
@Aiden Cross said:
@JediXMan: What did you think was the appeal for you of Antares Draco if I may ask?
It's the overall appeal of the Imperial Knights for me, and he is the symbol of the Knights.
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#21 Posted by JediXMan (30584 posts) - - Show Bio
@Caligula:

I have a few non-Force users on the list. Oh yeah, I forgot Thrawn. I am ashamed at this error....
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#22 Posted by Nefarious (20276 posts) - - Show Bio

I have to agree, Luke Skywalker is definitely the greatest.

#23 Posted by Caligula (12417 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan said:
@Caligula: I have a few non-Force users on the list. Oh yeah, I forgot Thrawn. I am ashamed at this error....
yeah Thrawn is awesome.
#24 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan: How does Yoda compare to Luke in Wisdom? I'm not an avid reader of the Star Wars EU but Yoda always stuck me as the most wise character. 
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#25 Posted by JediXMan (30584 posts) - - Show Bio
@Deranged Midget said:
@JediXMan: How does Yoda compare to Luke in Wisdom? I'm not an avid reader of the Star Wars EU but Yoda always stuck me as the most wise character. 
Yoda was wise, yes. But I think Luke surpassed him by the time he became Grandmaster.
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#26 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan: I see. Where would I start out in the EU? My cousin picked up a couple of Old Republic comics. Where does it begin?
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#27 Posted by .o0Johnny0o. (757 posts) - - Show Bio
@Deranged Midget said:
@JediXMan: I see. Where would I start out in the EU? My cousin picked up a couple of Old Republic comics. Where does it begin?
Also was curious about dipping my toe into the expanded universe.  Would love a nice starting point.  Comics or books.
#28 Posted by Jnr6Lil (7705 posts) - - Show Bio

JediXMan: But it wasn't just speculation, Anakin fi eh stayed with the Light would've ebn the greatest, amd Jacen yes not near Luke's pwoers was able to do Force Light somethign Luke couldn't do,
#29 Posted by JediXMan (30584 posts) - - Show Bio
@Deranged Midget said:
@JediXMan: I see. Where would I start out in the EU? My cousin picked up a couple of Old Republic comics. Where does it begin?
There's no single spot to start from. You see, Star Wars is divided into multiple eras. Each era requires a different starting point.

Which Old Republic comics? There are lots. The Old Republic itself is the largest era, spanning over 25,000 years.
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#30 Posted by JediXMan (30584 posts) - - Show Bio
@Jnr6Lil said:
JediXMan: But it wasn't just speculation, Anakin fi eh stayed with the Light would've ebn the greatest, amd Jacen yes not near Luke's pwoers was able to do Force Light somethign Luke couldn't do,
And he didn't. He never reached his full power; therefore, he has no place among the strongest. It's just a potential statement in which he has no feats. You said that he would've been the greatest; he did not, and so he is not.

Jacen did just a single thing Luke couldn't do. Luke did multiple things Jacen couldn't do (manipulating black holes, electric judgement, etc.). Just because he has one power Luke doesn't have doesn't mean he is stronger than Luke.
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#31 Posted by sesquipedalophobe (4727 posts) - - Show Bio

I think my favorite force-sensitive character will always be Ulic Qel-Droma. My brother asked me why I liked him so much and I told him, "Because he killed his own brother." We don't talk much now.

#32 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan: I believe it was Knights of the Old Republic.
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#33 Posted by JediXMan (30584 posts) - - Show Bio
@Deranged Midget said:
@JediXMan: I believe it was Knights of the Old Republic.
For that series, you should first play the KOTOR games, and then start with KOTOR #1 (comic). While the series doesn't follow the characters from the game for the most part, some do, and they are great cameos.
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#34 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan: Ah KOTOR, never played it myself but much enjoyed watching my friends play it. Thanks!
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#35 Posted by JediXMan (30584 posts) - - Show Bio
@Deranged Midget said:
@JediXMan: Ah KOTOR, never played it myself but much enjoyed watching my friends play it. Thanks!
I'm telling you right now: you want to get into the EU, the KOTOR games are essential.
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#36 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan: Will do. Could probably pick a copy up off a local EB games or eBay.
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#37 Posted by JediXMan (30584 posts) - - Show Bio
@Deranged Midget said:
@JediXMan: Will do. Could probably pick a copy up off a local EB games or eBay.
I'd suggest the Best of PC package. It might be easier to get, and it has a few good games:

KOTOR
Republic Commando
Empire at War
Battlefront
Galaxies (14-day trial. Not very good anymore since the developers killed it)
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#38 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan: Republic Commando and Battlefront? Awesome! Galaxies was an ok game, I preferred playing as a Bounty Hunter or smuggler.
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#39 Posted by JediXMan (30584 posts) - - Show Bio
@Deranged Midget said:
@JediXMan: Republic Commando and Battlefront? Awesome! Galaxies was an ok game, I preferred playing as a Bounty Hunter or smuggler.
I was a Bounty Hunter. I stopped playing a few years ago. My stuff is probably gone... oh well. I should've sold my lava crystal...
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#40 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan: Are you getting the Old Republic game made by BioWare?
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#41 Posted by JediXMan (30584 posts) - - Show Bio
@Deranged Midget said:
@JediXMan: Are you getting the Old Republic game made by BioWare?
Yup.
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#42 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan: They had a forum on Giantbomb involving the game and someone posted a video with about an hour and a half of gameplay as a Jedi. It was pretty cool.
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#43 Posted by JediXMan (30584 posts) - - Show Bio
@Deranged Midget said:
@JediXMan: They had a forum on Giantbomb involving the game and someone posted a video with about an hour and a half of gameplay as a Jedi. It was pretty cool.
Yes, we have discussed the game on my forum, as well. I'm skeptical, but I'm also hopeful. I don't know who I want to play as first. 
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#44 Posted by Jnr6Lil (7705 posts) - - Show Bio

JediXMan: But tha t one power, Jacen di dwas the greatest feat a light-user could pull off.
#45 Posted by JediXMan (30584 posts) - - Show Bio
@Jnr6Lil said:
JediXMan: But tha t one power, Jacen di dwas the greatest feat a light-user could pull off.
Once more: being capable of just a single power does not make him the greatest.

Explain why Luke was beating Jacen when they fought. Explain why Jacen only gained the upper hand during the fight due to the environment (his Yuuzhan Vong torture devices in the room).

Also, he never did it again. He did it once.
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#46 Posted by Jnr6Lil (7705 posts) - - Show Bio

JediXMan: Ue a good debatre for a Star Wars fan like myself. Lets just settle that Jacen and Luke were at about an equal level.

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