" How come Magneto is such a big deal whn he only can control metal "

" As I go through all those forums i realized how many people just hate Jean, and I do not understand why."

" there just jelous of how awesome she is "

I really love Jean, she is an amazing character. I don't really care about the bad stuff people say about her, since they do it to make themselves feel better, and because it isn't true :]

I'm not a fan, but I wouldn't say I hate her. I just find her to be an extremely boring character. 

" I'm not a fan, but I wouldn't say I hate her. I just find her to be an extremely boring character.  "

" @Green Skin said:

" I'm not a fan, but I wouldn't say I hate her. I just find her to be an extremely boring character.  "

"

I will freely admit that I hate Jean. I don't like her at all. Its controversial i know but here are my reasons.  
In full power (with the full phoenix force) then she is too powerful to need a team. She can do anything and therefore i dont worry about her winning or loosing- she is always going to win unless the writer wants to sacrifi 
 
ce her to make a story seem epic. There are only like five characters more powerful then her.  
When she is in a relationship with scott (my favourite character) then it is too straight forward. Where is the excitment in two characters who are just that in love. Their relationship defined scott for years as the guy other then wolverine that jean liked.  At least with emma the audience doesnt know if it will last for long.
Jean is a hero.  
Jean is such a hero that she sacrificed herself to save the world.  
Thats cool.  
That's respectable.  
But why bring her back? She sacrificed herself and thats awesome but as soon as writers bring her back then her sacrifice is belittled. Do it a couple of times and the sacrifice seems like little more than a plot point. 
 
Dark phoenix is evil right? I mean thats what everyone says... but all i have ever seen was her destroy some planet/sun that no one heard of or cared about. Who gives a crap? If Mars exploded tommorow who would care? We have nothing invested in it. Oh no she killed a billion people - but then she comes to earth and she ... turns trees into gold. and throws people around. Oh she's very bad.  
Wait hold on. She's not even that bad. Please tell me something that she has done that makes her a threat? Other then blow up planets no one knew about?  
 
In conclusion, people can like jean because she is the little mutant that couldnt save the day but then realised she is a god. But i just find her boring. THe x-men thrive on characters who cause conflict - whether its Gambit acting suspiciously, Wolverine acting like a loner, Rogue with her dark past and dangerous powers, new members like Magneto and Namor with mysterious goals or even scott who acts like boyscout and who makes decisions that cost mutants their lives. Jean was just a straight forward character with almost no personality aside from the adjective "lovely".  
 
I like my x-men complicated and I think Jean was just too straight forward. Even with her dark side.  
 
Emma frost may be a biotch! and people may never trust her but that just makes me want to keep reading to find out if she ever deserves her place on the x-men.

" Oh man no fights, i hate that.... we all are comic geeks ,lets just love each other!  ....   And Jean borring? She killed plenty of species, how much more exciting can it get? "

I dont like her, my dislike started in the 90's cartoon LOL Dont like her in the comics, movies, video games and 90's cartoon, X-Men Evolution was cool, and Wolverine & the X-Men barely showed her. 

I never had a problem with Jean, I just didn't really like how she was portrayed in the X men movies.  
 
@mario_nblc said:

  I also hate how people love Emma. Its not that i hate her, shes okay, but she just annoys the hell out of me. 

Jean has the power of a G-D but when she joins back up with the X-Men (when she's not dead!) she's treated like a little girl that needs to be monitored 24/7! Maybe thats why she always dies... to see if the X-Men lose their care-giving trait... which means she should arrive soon!

"  It also hate how people love Emma. Its not that i hate her, shes okay, but she just annoys the hell out of me. 

haha I think you are the only one that has it wright

" @xxCellPhoneGirlxx said:

" @Crom-Cruach: Is there a reason your using big words like invalidate or legitimate, or do you normally talk like that? Just wondering lol "

LOL.  Crom-Cruach is the Architect from the Matrix film series. "

coz Emma's better

The problem with her is that she's largely defined as being the girl in a love triangle, and that's never a good trait if that's one of the first things people think of when they think your character.

  Because she never stays dead.  I'm no fan of any character that has died and came back to life.  If you're going to kill someone off then don't even bring them back, it's anti-climatic and oh so very idiotic.  It destroys the whole point of killing off the character in the first place.

" @Crom-Cruach: I hope you do know that Jean has been in pretty much most of the best x-stories in history. After she died pretty much a lot of the big stories have been about Cable, Hope, and X-Force.  "

nothing wrong with x-force in my opinion.  It's my favorite book.

 
I am hoping for her return soon though.

Jean Grey is the most exiting and the coolest character in the X-men comics

Personally, I don't hate her. But then I have a thing for characters with red hair.

Because fanboys control the sales and that's why Deadpool and Wolverine (who aren't awful characters just overexposed) are in anything X nowadays. So instead of Jean Grey they prefer this:
 

I bet Greg Land directed that video.

"She can do anything and therefore i dont worry about her winning or loosing- she is always going to win unless the writer wants to sacrifice her to make a story seem epic.  ...   I like my x-men complicated and I think Jean was just too straight forward. Even with her dark side.    

I hate Jean Kujo cause he's a ripoff of Jin Kazama!!!! Hehehehe! 
 
Personally I don't like Jean cause she's got no umph! At least compared to Emma, she's so damn boring.

some people just carry substantial grudges against fictional characters lol