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    Character » Jean Grey appears in 8002 issues.

    Jean Grey was one of the five original X-Men. An omega-level mutant telepath and powerful telekinetic, Jean has gained near limitless powers as a recurrent host of the Phoenix Force. She is known for her return from death and as the wife of Cyclops.

    Scott is being stupid.

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    #1  Edited By Power NeXus

    He should know by now that when Jean dies, she's never actually dead and always comes back.
    Doesn't he know how sersiously pissed she's going to be when she comes back this time and finds her husband cheating on her with a formerly-villianous blonde lingerie model?

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    #2  Edited By WARLOCK2792
    Power NeXus said:
    "He should know by now that when Jean dies, she's never actually dead and always comes back.Doesn't he know how sersiously pissed she's going to be when she comes back this time and finds her husband cheating on her with a formerly-villianous blonde lingerie model?"
    She already knows.
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    #3  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

    When Jean comes back the X-men should kill her and spit on her dead body to show her they stopped caring long ago and Emma is her replacement.

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    Jean was a great char..

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    #5  Edited By Power NeXus
    Vance Astro said:
    "When Jean comes back the X-men should kill her and spit on her dead body to show her they stopped caring long ago and Emma is her replacement."

    I get the feeling you have some unresolved issues concerning Jeannie...
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    #6  Edited By The_Martian
    TheDrifter said:
    "Jean was a great char.."
    WAS
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    Nobody said:
    "TheDrifter said:
    "Jean was a great char.."
    WAS"
    Well before she died lol
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    #9  Edited By pixelized
    Power NeXus said:
    "He should know by now that when Jean dies, she's never actually dead and always comes back.Doesn't he know how sersiously pissed she's going to be when she comes back this time and finds her husband cheating on her with a formerly-villianous blonde lingerie model?"
    The cheating bit already happened

    and she supported his relationship.
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    #10  Edited By Queen Ororo
    aztek the lost said:
    "Jean > Emma"
    Emma>>>>>>>>>>>>>>all but Storm.
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    #11  Edited By pixelized

    I like you

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    #12  Edited By Queen Ororo
    pixelized said:
    "I like you"
    =]
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    #13  Edited By SUNMAN
    Power NeXus said:
    "He should know by now that when Jean dies, she's never actually dead and always comes back.Doesn't he know how sersiously pissed she's going to be when she comes back this time and finds her husband cheating on her with a formerly-villianous blonde lingerie model?"
    What are you talking about? Jean is the one who pushed them together in the first place.

    Let me explain to you why Scott and Emma are fated to be together.

    Scot and Emma have their whole affair, and Jean fines out and is really pissed and totally mindf@$#$@ Emma.

    Than a while later, one of the Stepford Cuckoos shatters Emma's diamond form. Beast, under the belief that Emma can be saved, attempts to rebuild her from the shattered diamond. Than it is Jean that ultimately arrives and informs Hank that despite her malicious nature, Emma had truly fallen in love with her husband, and understanding that Emma can offer Scott something she can't, she uses her powers to fuse the diamond pieces of Emma's body together again and revives her.

    Later As Jean dies in Scott's arms, she tells him to live. Which I assumed meant to be happy and move on with his life.   


    Unfortunately, Scott Summers refusal of Emma Frost's offer to re-open Xavier's Institute after Jean's death creates a future timeline in which Beast re-opens the school. Under the daunting pressure, he takes the drug "Kick", which is revealed to be the aerosol form of the villain Sublime, who possesses Hank McCoy and drives him insane. 150 years later, the near-immortal Beast tries to resurrect Phoenix and use her to destroy every life-form on Earth, except for the creatures created by Sublime itself, only to be defeated by Jean. Phoenix then carries out her disinfection and absorbs the future universe into the "White Hot Room", a higher plane of reality with other Phoenix hosts and 'home' to the consciousness of the Phoenix Force.


    Than (pay attention cause this is the important part) Jean reaches back in time and telepathically urges Scott to live. Instead of refusing Emma and leaving the institute, Scott chooses to be with Emma and keep the Xavier Institute alive

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    #14  Edited By Erik
    Power NeXus said:
    "He should know by now that when Jean dies, she's never actually dead and always comes back.Doesn't he know how sersiously pissed she's going to be when she comes back this time and finds her husband cheating on her with a formerly-villianous blonde lingerie model?"
    Wow.... You have not been reading X-Men for a few years huh? 
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    #15  Edited By KumoriKunoichi

    Jean's return every time was as inevitable as the Matrix two and three being HORRIBLE. She'll be back and be all like "Ooh i'm fire life incarnate, blah blah blah blah" emma would be like "great we got that the first fifty times, now let me sleep with your husband" then Jean gets all angsty and like "nuu he's my guy" and proceed to go all psychotic then scott would be like "Jean, you're way past rigor mortis how the hell are you still alive?" but you never know because Jean mysteriosuly disappears after saying a nice speech on friendship...thus continuing the never ending cycle of the woman who still lives past rigor mortis.

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    #16  Edited By Power NeXus
    erik said:
    "Power NeXus said:
    "He should know by now that when Jean dies, she's never actually dead and always comes back.Doesn't he know how sersiously pissed she's going to be when she comes back this time and finds her husband cheating on her with a formerly-villianous blonde lingerie model?"
    Wow.... You have not been reading X-Men for a few years huh? 
    "

    I've been reading X-Men. I just missed out on the whole deal with Scott and Emma's telepathic affiar, White Phoenix, and Jean's most recent death. I've read what the 'Vine says happened in that era, but I didn't have all the facts.
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    #17  Edited By mario_nblc

    the hell with Scott and Emma, they are so pathetic that they cant keep their students alive ....
    its all about Jean! she is the fucking best and when she comes back she will be all over Scott and his whore

    <3 Jean <3

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    #18  Edited By Zoom

    Maddie was the best.

    Jean is crazy and Emma's a whore.

    *ducks*

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    #19  Edited By ComicCrazy

    i love scott but yeah i hate emma frost i think she is a slut so yeah he is sorta being stupid.

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    #20  Edited By Erik
    Power NeXus said:
    "erik said:
    "Power NeXus said:
    "He should know by now that when Jean dies, she's never actually dead and always comes back.Doesn't he know how sersiously pissed she's going to be when she comes back this time and finds her husband cheating on her with a formerly-villianous blonde lingerie model?"
    Wow.... You have not been reading X-Men for a few years huh? 
    "
    I've been reading X-Men. I just missed out on the whole deal with Scott and Emma's telepathic affiar, White Phoenix, and Jean's most recent death. I've read what the 'Vine says happened in that era, but I didn't have all the facts."
    She knew about it and even shared a moment with Wolverine then died. She even has given them her blessing since then. 
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    #21  Edited By pixelized
    ComicCrazy said:
    "i love scott but yeah i hate emma frost i think she is a slut so yeah he is sorta being stupid."
    don't be ridiculous.
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    #22  Edited By Andferne
    ComicCrazy said:
    "i hate emma frost i think she is a slut ."
    How is she a slut?
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    #23  Edited By G'bandit
    Power NeXus said:
    "He should know by now that when Jean dies, she's never actually dead and always comes back.Doesn't he know how sersiously pissed she's going to be when she comes back this time and finds her husband cheating on her with a formerly-villianous blonde lingerie model?"
    O_o? I wonder if that has ever has happened xD

    Like:

     *BANG!* Uugh! [Thud]

    Milton watches while his mutant wife dies after a mugging.

    "Bye honey. See you next fall."

    A passing man who saw the whole thing couldn't believe what he just saw. How cold, her own husband practically mocking his wife's death. He feels is his duty to do something about it. He walks over to the cold hearten man.

    "Hey man your wife was just killed! Are you made of stone or something? Didn't you love her?"

    The husband with his lazy eyes he takes a zip of his coffee he just bough in Starbucks and looking at the body of his now dead wife he replies to the passing man.

    "Meh.. Don''t worry. The b!tch always comes back. Her death would be too good to be true after 7 years of marriage"

    The husband walks out after taking a bite of his doughnut and taking a second zip of his coffee.

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    #24  Edited By Calvin
    SUNMAN said:
    "Scot and Emma have their whole affair, and Jean fines out and is really pissed and totally mindf@$#$@ Emma."

    I thought they their relationship had began after Jean died... for the last time, I mean. I had Scot in better consideration.
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    #25  Edited By xerox_kitty
    Calvin said:
    "SUNMAN said:
    "Scot and Emma have their whole affair, and Jean fines out and is really pissed and totally mindf@$#$@ Emma."
    I thought they their relationship had began after Jean died... for the last time, I mean. I had Scot in better consideration."
    Scott & Emma were only having a psychic affair before Jean died.  Emma taunts him about it in Astonishing X-Men, and he replies that they never physically touched.  Jean cemented his relationship with Emma telepathically just before she died (again), so he wouldn't spend even more years angsting over her (and to prevent him from being attracted to any more clones ;)
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    #26  Edited By shankarma

    she should stay dead im getting sick of coming in and messing thing up

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    #27  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

    Jean is worthless.

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    #28  Edited By inferiorego  Staff
    Vance Astro said:
    "Jean is worthless."
    I like Jean... However I'm sick to death of Phoenix.
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    #29  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    inferiorego said:
    "Vance Astro said:
    "Jean is worthless."
    I like Jean... However I'm sick to death of Phoenix. "
    I used to like Jean until she became irrelevant.Now I care just as much about her as I do Steve Rogers.When a character has been pretty much replaced,why care about them anymore?
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    #30  Edited By inferiorego  Staff
    Vance Astro said:
    "inferiorego said:
    "Vance Astro said:
    "Jean is worthless."
    I like Jean... However I'm sick to death of Phoenix. "
    I used to like Jean until she became irrelevant.Now I care just as much about her as I do Steve Rogers.When a character has been pretty much replaced,why care about them anymore?
    "
    Agreed. Move on until they bring them back to life, but until then enjoy what you have in front of you.
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    #31  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    inferiorego said:
    "Vance Astro said:
    "inferiorego said:
    "Vance Astro said:
    "Jean is worthless."
    I like Jean... However I'm sick to death of Phoenix. "
    I used to like Jean until she became irrelevant.Now I care just as much about her as I do Steve Rogers.When a character has been pretty much replaced,why care about them anymore?
    "
    Agreed. Move on until they bring them back to life, but until then enjoy what you have in front of you."
    Well Jean isn't dead but I got where you were going with that :)
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    #32  Edited By inferiorego  Staff
    Vance Astro said:
    "inferiorego said:
    "Vance Astro said:
    "inferiorego said:
    "Vance Astro said:
    "Jean is worthless."
    I like Jean... However I'm sick to death of Phoenix. "
    I used to like Jean until she became irrelevant.Now I care just as much about her as I do Steve Rogers.When a character has been pretty much replaced,why care about them anymore?
    "
    Agreed. Move on until they bring them back to life, but until then enjoy what you have in front of you."
    Well Jean isn't dead but I got where you were going with that :)
    "
    I have no clue what's going on with X-Men, I tried to jump in when Astonishing restarted, then when 500 came out, and it wasn't fun... Morrison needs to come back stat.
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    #33  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    inferiorego said:
    I have no clue what's going on with X-Men, I tried to jump in when Astonishing restarted, then when 500 came out, and it wasn't fun... Morrison needs to come back stat."
    I'm not currently reading X-men either.Classic DD is occupying all my time.
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    #34  Edited By inferiorego  Staff
    Vance Astro said:
    "inferiorego said:
    I have no clue what's going on with X-Men, I tried to jump in when Astonishing restarted, then when 500 came out, and it wasn't fun... Morrison needs to come back stat."
    I'm not currently reading X-men either.Classic DD is occupying all my time.
    "
    good work
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    #35  Edited By inferiorego  Staff
    Phoenix of the Black Throne said:
    "Vance Astro said:
    "inferiorego said:
    I have no clue what's going on with X-Men, I tried to jump in when Astonishing restarted, then when 500 came out, and it wasn't fun... Morrison needs to come back stat."
    I'm not currently reading X-men either.Classic DD is occupying all my time.
    "
    so then shut up, because as irrelevant as you think Jean is they have been buidling up to her returing in a big way. so much so that they could only sell a book by making people think that a DD villian was Jean resurrected, by the time they revealed it to be Typhoid people were into it because they though the red telekinetic was Jean, as soon as the bomb dropped it wasn't, those sells went down."
    Telling someone to shut up isn't nice.


    Play nice.
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    #36  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    Phoenix of the Black Throne said:
    "Vance Astro said:
    "inferiorego said:
    I have no clue what's going on with X-Men, I tried to jump in when Astonishing restarted, then when 500 came out, and it wasn't fun... Morrison needs to come back stat."
    I'm not currently reading X-men either.Classic DD is occupying all my time.
    "
    so then shut up, because as irrelevant as you think Jean is they have been buidling up to her returing in a big way. so much so that they could only sell a book by making people think that a DD villian was Jean resurrected, by the time they revealed it to be Typhoid people were into it because they though the red telekinetic was Jean, as soon as the bomb dropped it wasn't, those sells went down."
    Who was talking to you?
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    #37  Edited By iLLituracy

    The Scott and Emma thing doesn't bother me as much. Jean may or may not be pissed when she comes back. She gave her sentiment for Scott to move on for the greater good of the X-Men, because if he didn't move on and get past Jean as quick as he did, the X-Men would have disbanded and the alternate reality at the end of Grant Morrison's run "Here Comes Tomorrow" would have happened because at the end of that arc, she reaches back in time and gives her plea to Scott "to live". This doesn't mean she won't be pissed off by the fact that her husband--or ex-husband--who she still harbored strong feelings for at her time of death is or was with someone else, if you ignore Phoenix: Endsong which was primarily Phoenix menacing Scott.

    We'll seen soon enough, though. I think the solicits for that new series "Reborn" is about bringing back Jean and there's Hope who has a uncanny resemblance to her.

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    #38  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    iLLituracy said:
    "The Scott and Emma thing doesn't bother me as much. Jean may or may not be pissed when she comes back. She gave her sentiment for Scott to move on for the greater good of the X-Men, because if he didn't move on and get past Jean as quick as he did, the X-Men would have disbanded and the alternate reality at the end of Grant Morrison's run "Here Comes Tomorrow" would have happened because at the end of that arc, she reaches back in time and gives her plea to Scott "to live". This doesn't mean she won't be pissed off by the fact that her husband--or ex-husband--who she still harbored strong feelings for at her time of death is or was with someone else, if you ignore Phoenix: Endsong which was primarily Phoenix menacing Scott. We'll seen soon enough, though. I think the solicits for that new series "Reborn" is about bringing back Jean and there's Hope who has a uncanny resemblance to her."
    How could Jean possibly mad.She was absent.Scott's not going to have nothing because she's gone.She ain't all that.
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    #39  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    Phoenix of the Black Throne said:
    Does it matter this a Jean Grey forum I'm talking about Jean Grey, same as you are with how irrelevant she is, which is far from true."
    Why are you still talking to me? You're getting mad like I said something to you or about you? Please calm the f#ck down!
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    #40  Edited By Precise
    Vance Astro said:
    "How could Jean possibly mad.She was absent.Scott's not going to have nothing because she's gone.She ain't all that."
    Couldn't agree more. And I like Jean Grey, but she has died and been reborn so often.. just stay dead already! Al though she's probably alive now =/
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    #41  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    Phoenix of the Black Throne said:
    "Vance Astro said:
    "Phoenix of the Black Throne said:
    Does it matter this a Jean Grey forum I'm talking about Jean Grey, same as you are with how irrelevant she is, which is far from true."
    Why are you still talking to me? You're getting mad like I said something to you or about you? Please calm the f#ck down!
    "
    why you insist on playing internet empath is beyond me, how could I be mad at a nothing like you?  I'm not mad you just say foolish and baseless things about Jean or Phoenix whenever she is reflected on in a good light I'm not mad you are sad, and obviously have real life problems with a work of fiction."
    If you are not mad..why do you try and insult me every time you post.I didn't say anything to or about you.If you don't like my comments..I honestly don't give a sh#t.In fact nobody does.If you not mad at least back up off my d#ck!



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    #42  Edited By iLLituracy
    Vance Astro said:
    "iLLituracy said:
    "The Scott and Emma thing doesn't bother me as much. Jean may or may not be pissed when she comes back. She gave her sentiment for Scott to move on for the greater good of the X-Men, because if he didn't move on and get past Jean as quick as he did, the X-Men would have disbanded and the alternate reality at the end of Grant Morrison's run "Here Comes Tomorrow" would have happened because at the end of that arc, she reaches back in time and gives her plea to Scott "to live". This doesn't mean she won't be pissed off by the fact that her husband--or ex-husband--who she still harbored strong feelings for at her time of death is or was with someone else, if you ignore Phoenix: Endsong which was primarily Phoenix menacing Scott. We'll seen soon enough, though. I think the solicits for that new series "Reborn" is about bringing back Jean and there's Hope who has a uncanny resemblance to her."
    How could Jean possibly mad.She was absent.Scott's not going to have nothing because she's gone.She ain't all that.
    "
    One, because one could assume she's coming back, as stated on her grave marker "She will rise again" as she has so many times before. Two, because it'd be kinda' retarded for her not to be affected in some way that he's with someone else that's not her. It's also not that out of the norm to wait a while after your wife dies to even look at another chick, especially with Scott, a character that's based around control and self-control. Scott's not going to start jumping at whatever he can get, so really, if there wasn't a pre-established relationship with Emma, it's not out of the norm for Scott  to have stayed unattached to anyone.
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    #43  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    Precise said:
    "Vance Astro said:
    "How could Jean possibly mad.She was absent.Scott's not going to have nothing because she's gone.She ain't all that."
    Couldn't agree more. And I like Jean Grey, but she has died and been reborn so often.. just stay dead already! Al though she's probably alive now =/"
    I don't know if I said this in this thread but I think they should make Jean a Guardian of the Galaxy..put here with all the other powerful beings on the side of good.I haven't been reading X-men so I don't know what she will be doing when she comes back but I would hope that if they make her an X-man again (which I seriously hope they don't because we already have Emma) they should power her down a little.I mean she's an avatar of the Phoenix Force so that would be kind of hard but I bet they could think of something creative to do with her powers.Maybe they could do it like they do Sentry where his powers are only at their best when he's mentally stable.They could make her all crazy and whatnot.
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    #44  Edited By Precise
    Vance Astro said:
    "I don't know if I said this in this thread but I think they should make Jean a Guardian of the Galaxy..put here with all the other powerful beings on the side of good.I haven't been reading X-men so I don't know what she will be doing when she comes back but I would hope that if they make her an X-man again (which I seriously hope they don't because we already have Emma) they should power her down a little.I mean she's an avatar of the Phoenix Force so that would be kind of hard but I bet they could think of something creative to do with her powers.Maybe they could do it like they do Sentry where his powers are only at their best when he's mentally stable.They could make her all crazy and whatnot."
    Yep, i've said the same thing before. She should be in a comic with cosmic entities like Silver Surfer, Galactus, Thanos.. guys like that. If she ever did return in a X-Men comics then just make it for a few issues to tell where she's been and that's it. She's way too powerful to be in any X-Team right now. And to lower her powers would just be silly in my opinion, you know it will resurface again and then we'd have the whole Phoenix thing all over again... no doubt it will end with her death again.
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    #45  Edited By iLLituracy
    Vance Astro said:
    "Precise said:
    "Vance Astro said:
    "How could Jean possibly mad.She was absent.Scott's not going to have nothing because she's gone.She ain't all that."
    Couldn't agree more. And I like Jean Grey, but she has died and been reborn so often.. just stay dead already! Al though she's probably alive now =/"
    I don't know if I said this in this thread but I think they should make Jean a Guardian of the Galaxy..put here with all the other powerful beings on the side of good.I haven't been reading X-men so I don't know what she will be doing when she comes back but I would hope that if they make her an X-man again (which I seriously hope they don't because we already have Emma) they should power her down a little.I mean she's an avatar of the Phoenix Force so that would be kind of hard but I bet they could think of something creative to do with her powers.Maybe they could do it like they do Sentry where his powers are only at their best when he's mentally stable.They could make her all crazy and whatnot.
    "
    Yeah...I'm not a fan of the all-powerful, it probably would be best to make her weaker. Can you make her mentally unstable, though? Someone with that much psionic power?
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    #46  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    iLLituracy said:
    "Vance Astro said:
    "iLLituracy said:
    "The Scott and Emma thing doesn't bother me as much. Jean may or may not be pissed when she comes back. She gave her sentiment for Scott to move on for the greater good of the X-Men, because if he didn't move on and get past Jean as quick as he did, the X-Men would have disbanded and the alternate reality at the end of Grant Morrison's run "Here Comes Tomorrow" would have happened because at the end of that arc, she reaches back in time and gives her plea to Scott "to live". This doesn't mean she won't be pissed off by the fact that her husband--or ex-husband--who she still harbored strong feelings for at her time of death is or was with someone else, if you ignore Phoenix: Endsong which was primarily Phoenix menacing Scott. We'll seen soon enough, though. I think the solicits for that new series "Reborn" is about bringing back Jean and there's Hope who has a uncanny resemblance to her."
    How could Jean possibly mad.She was absent.Scott's not going to have nothing because she's gone.She ain't all that.
    "
    One, because one could assume she's coming back, as stated on her grave marker "She will rise again" as she has so many times before. Two, because it'd be kinda' retarded for her not to be affected in some way that he's with someone else that's not her. It's also not that out of the norm to wait a while after your wife dies to even look at another chick, especially with Scott, a character that's based around control and self-control. Scott's not going to start jumping at whatever he can get, so really, if there wasn't a pre-established relationship with Emma, it's not out of the norm for Scott  to have stayed unattached to anyone."
    I'm not saying she's not coming back,just that I don't see any reason for her to be mad.She and Scott have been apart for a long ass time.For her to think that he would be nobody else but her is completely self-centered and ridiculous on her part.Scott has obviously "got to have it" if you get what I'm saying.I don't see why he shouldn't be with someone else in Jean's abscense especially when he has no idea if she will ever return.
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    #47  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    iLLituracy said:
    "Vance Astro said:
    "Precise said:
    "Vance Astro said:
    "How could Jean possibly mad.She was absent.Scott's not going to have nothing because she's gone.She ain't all that."
    Couldn't agree more. And I like Jean Grey, but she has died and been reborn so often.. just stay dead already! Al though she's probably alive now =/"
    I don't know if I said this in this thread but I think they should make Jean a Guardian of the Galaxy..put here with all the other powerful beings on the side of good.I haven't been reading X-men so I don't know what she will be doing when she comes back but I would hope that if they make her an X-man again (which I seriously hope they don't because we already have Emma) they should power her down a little.I mean she's an avatar of the Phoenix Force so that would be kind of hard but I bet they could think of something creative to do with her powers.Maybe they could do it like they do Sentry where his powers are only at their best when he's mentally stable.They could make her all crazy and whatnot.
    "
    Yeah...I'm not a fan of the all-powerful, it probably would be best to make her weaker. Can you make her mentally unstable, though? Someone with that much psionic power?"
    Well Sentry himself is said to be one of the most powerful telepaths and to have unlimited Psionic ability.


    Precise said:
    "Vance Astro said:
    "I don't know if I said this in this thread but I think they should make Jean a Guardian of the Galaxy..put here with all the other powerful beings on the side of good.I haven't been reading X-men so I don't know what she will be doing when she comes back but I would hope that if they make her an X-man again (which I seriously hope they don't because we already have Emma) they should power her down a little.I mean she's an avatar of the Phoenix Force so that would be kind of hard but I bet they could think of something creative to do with her powers.Maybe they could do it like they do Sentry where his powers are only at their best when he's mentally stable.They could make her all crazy and whatnot."
    Yep, i've said the same thing before. She should be in a comic with cosmic entities like Silver Surfer, Galactus, Thanos.. guys like that. If she ever did return in a X-Men comics then just make it for a few issues to tell where she's been and that's it. She's way too powerful to be in any X-Team right now. And to lower her powers would just be silly in my opinion, you know it will resurface again and then we'd have the whole Phoenix thing all over again... no doubt it will end with her death again."
    It would be awesome if Marvel upped the power levels and actually made characters who can contend with Jean at her highest level.I'm tired or her being the end all.Not so much because I don't like the character but more so because it's just stupid.It's probably they always held Gladiator and Sentry back...because they didn't want them getting too powerful like Jean.They ran more than wild with Jean's powers.I know lowering her powers isn't the best move but it's the only way she can be on the team and not be overkill.
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    #48  Edited By Precise
    Vance Astro said:
    "It would be awesome if Marvel upped the power levels and actually made characters who can contend with Jean at her highest level.I'm tired or her being the end all.Not so much because I don't like the character but more so because it's just stupid.It's probably they always held Gladiator and Sentry back...because they didn't want them getting too powerful like Jean.They ran more than wild with Jean's powers.I know lowering her powers isn't the best move but it's the only way she can be on the team and not be overkill."
    You mean up the power levels of Silver Surfer and the like? It could work but then you might also get the problem that they are too powerful to be used in any circumstace without an all powerful being. She could be transformed into a different kind of Phoenix that only has a small portion of the forcebut then you'r likely to end up with Rachel Grey.

    I honestly wouldn't know what to do with the character.. That's why i say just let her be dead.
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    #49  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    Precise said:
    "Vance Astro said:
    "It would be awesome if Marvel upped the power levels and actually made characters who can contend with Jean at her highest level.I'm tired or her being the end all.Not so much because I don't like the character but more so because it's just stupid.It's probably they always held Gladiator and Sentry back...because they didn't want them getting too powerful like Jean.They ran more than wild with Jean's powers.I know lowering her powers isn't the best move but it's the only way she can be on the team and not be overkill."
    You mean up the power levels of Silver Surfer and the like? It could work but then you might also get the problem that they are too powerful to be used in any circumstace without an all powerful being. She could be transformed into a different kind of Phoenix that only has a small portion of the forcebut then you'r likely to end up with Rachel Grey.I honestly wouldn't know what to do with the character.. That's why i say just let her be dead."
    No..I mean beyond Silver Surfer.I mean like people who are super powerful but they have limits.That whole unlimited potential thing with Omega level mutants is stupid...because at some point they are going to do something completely ridiculous and outlandish.
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    #50  Edited By dane

    what like Wanda with M Day? I don't think shes even Omega level and she managed to screw things up pretty good.

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