Off My Mind: Why It's Time For Jean Grey's Return

#201 Edited by time (5774 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't understand why some people don't want her back. It's make more sense if she came back, cause comics will get a whole lot better with her in them. Just look at X-Men history, some of the best stories ever told, feature her.

Age of Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix Saga, Fatal Attractions, Here Comes Tomorrow, Legion Quest, The Prime of Miss Emma Frost & Murder at the Mansion, Onslaught, Phoenix: Endsong, Phoenix: Warsong, Planet X, Ultimatum, X-Cutioner's Song & X-Tinction Agenda, Mutant Genesis etc. Some of them I just like and some of them I loved. In most of them, she had a part to play.. Stories are a lot better with her, then without her.

Over last couples of years, what stories and titles have been that good

Messiah Complex

Messiah War

Craig Kylie & Christopher Yost work on the X-Force

Joss Whedon run

That's really it.

Uncanny X-Force, X-Men legacy and X-Factor are ok titles, they have a few good stories and they also have a lot of rubbish to. Regenesis only started at end of 2011, you can't really judge on how good it's going be, cause, it just started.

To me it just make more sense to bring her back, the X-Men will probley go back to being like family again. Beast might make up with Cyclops and Charles will probable return.

On top of that, there will be more rivalry in X-Men, paricular between Emma & Jean and maybe even Scott and Logan. I have just read Generation Hope 15, Hope implied that Emma is a slut and Emma slap her. No one want's that type rivalry again. Really? With Jean it will be a whole a lot better.

Just makes more sense to bring her back. More drama, better stories will be told.

#202 Posted by davelecave (1123 posts) - - Show Bio

@time said:

Uncanny X-Force, X-Men legacy and X-Factor are ok titles,..

Uncanny X-Force is just OK?

#203 Posted by time (5774 posts) - - Show Bio

Deathlok Nation@davelecave said:

@time said:

Uncanny X-Force, X-Men legacy and X-Factor are ok titles,..

Uncanny X-Force is just OK?

Yes, Deathlok Nation, was rubbish

Apocalypse Solution was ok

The tied in with fear-self was rubbish

The only good story was, The Dark Angel Saga and that feature Jean Grey

Craig Kylie & Christopher Yost work on the X-Force is much better than Uncanny X-Force, miles ahead of it in every way.

#204 Posted by davelecave (1123 posts) - - Show Bio

@time: Respectfully disagree (except for the tie-in, that was bad).

#205 Edited by time (5774 posts) - - Show Bio

@davelecave said:

@time: Respectfully disagree (except for the tie-in, that was bad).

Well each to there own. Do you think stories will be better if Jean came back. Honestly.

A majority of titles over last couple of years has been ok, but nothing really special.

I mean the Cables series was ok, had few good stories and few bad ones. Same goes for X-23 series and Wolverines Origins. Generation Hope I think is rubbish title, so far I only like issue 15. New Mutants is also a poor title. I like Blink and X-Man and I hope the title gets better. Matt Fraction made Uncanny X-Men a rubbish title and that was for 4-5 years.

#206 Posted by davelecave (1123 posts) - - Show Bio

@time: I'm definately hoping for Jean's return, but I don't think getting better or worse lies with a character. If she comes back and it's written poorly it'll be even worse.

I can agree with you on most of the likes/dislikes you mentioned, but I love Uncanny X-force. Uncanny X-men under Gillen is pretty good, and I find Wolverine atxm really fun and kind of refreshing from the really serious, dark and often depressing x-books.

#207 Posted by time (5774 posts) - - Show Bio

@davelecave said:

@time: I'm definately hoping for Jean's return, but I don't think getting better or worse lies with a character. If she comes back and it's written poorly it'll be even worse.

I can agree with you on most of the likes/dislikes you mentioned, but I love Uncanny X-force. Uncanny X-men under Gillen is pretty good, and I find Wolverine atxm really fun and kind of refreshing from the really serious, dark and often depressing x-books.

Wolverine and X-Men is ok, I hate the artists though. I'm trying to like Uncanny X-Men, but it's really hard for me, cause I'm not really a fan of Emma & Scott, it's been about them for too long. It's time for change. I like X-Men with Storm, Psylocke, Jubilee, Warpath and Domino. I am looking foward to Astonishing X-Men with Gambit, I think that will be good. The biggest the problem I have with comics is there too much inconsistency. There not enough good stories and there to many characters and not enough are being explore.

The best series, in the last 8 years for me, has been Craig Kylie & Christopher Yost work on the X-Force. Amazing writing and amazing artwork. Great character development too. There was only one story I didn't love and that was Necrosha. All the rest were great.

If Jean was return and it was poorly written, I wouldn't mind cause I know comics would get better. Charles would be more involved and so would a lot of other characters. Cyclops and Emma would be focus on a lot less, which is always a good thing.

#208 Posted by arcano_19 (118 posts) - - Show Bio

awwwww this post made me cry... come on she is one of the five original x-men she shuld come back we need

#209 Posted by Yasiiii4 (150 posts) - - Show Bio

100% agree with this!! BRING JEAN BACK!

#210 Posted by RogueOracle (254 posts) - - Show Bio

I think bringing Jean back will bring up a lot of potential story lines. The big stories lately have involved Hope and crossovers. I like the big x-men storylines to be contained in the X books and I would like to see one that didn't involved Hope.

#211 Posted by arcano_19 (118 posts) - - Show Bio

@longas91: i want my jean back i started to read comics on 2006 so i havent read much of the character only trought bios but i want her back and we all knoe she should have her own team... or with x-men legacy

#212 Posted by Crimsonlord53 (1459 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd love to see her back if wrote well.

#213 Posted by comicfan123 (64 posts) - - Show Bio

This might sound like a pretty stupid thing to say, but maybe Marvel could, I don't know, try giving Jean Grey her own series?

Just think about it for a minute. The woman, when she's not dying every ten issues, is obviously an immensely powerful being who's spent her time running around with a guy who can shoot lasers from his eyes (not to say that's not useful, because it is), but I've personally always pictured telepaths and telekinetics to be incredibly powerful and nearly god-like. She could leave the X-Men, and she wouldn't have to join the Avengers, which seems like a popular thing to do nowadays. I think it would be pretty interesting, and I'm always in favor of more superheroines having their own series. Marvel could use more of those (ever notice how Sue Storm, Scarlet Witch, She-Hulk, Spider-Woman, etc. are mostly supporting characters?), in my opinion.

Keep in mind that what I just listed what pretty much a "what-if?". Aside from all that, Marvel should just LEAVE. HER. DEAD.

#214 Posted by Redberry (818 posts) - - Show Bio

Please just no, can't dead people stay dead anymore? I love Cassie Lang in Young Avengers, but I hope she stays dead because it would have cheapened her sacrificed.

#215 Posted by Mercy_ (92689 posts) - - Show Bio

@Redberry said:

Please just no, can't dead people stay dead anymore? I love Cassie Lang in Young Avengers, but I hope she stays dead because it would have cheapened her sacrificed.

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#216 Posted by Owlesque (3 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Jean should come back and Emma Frost take her place.(; But honestly, I'd love to see her back (maybe helping Logan with his school?) but not if she's just going to keep dying and returning. Anybody think she'll make a return as/because of Hope and the Phoenix?

#217 Posted by oraclefyre (944 posts) - - Show Bio

It's Jean Grey. She won't stay dead because Marvel knows they can make money from the woman who was at the centre of one of their iconic sagas (the whole identity thing is just to jarring to go into). Hell, their making money off of her legacy right now.

Her return is inevitable, it's just a matter of when.

#218 Edited by oviouslyjeangrey (417 posts) - - Show Bio

Jean is coming back.(period) If you you like it or not. When she does come back she going to kick Emma's balls. :D Strom needs her BFF back

PS. Mystique should come back too.

I don't give a rat ass if nightcrawler comes back though.

#219 Posted by oviouslyjeangrey (417 posts) - - Show Bio

@deadpool2099: Erm shes phoenix she is supposed to die and comeback to life XD silly

#220 Posted by Yasiiii4 (150 posts) - - Show Bio

@CapFanboy said:

Bring jean back with phoenix powers but not the dual personality/ghost rider thing going on.

This. and put her with Wolverine :)

And make her an Avenger, she deserves more respect

#221 Posted by Osian2 (461 posts) - - Show Bio

She'll stay dead so Marvel can keep teasing her return to fans to make us buy more comics. That's the sad truth.

#222 Posted by HopesummersFORtheFUTURE (4912 posts) - - Show Bio



 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 @X711
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YES!

I agree its Time She COMES BACK! Jean is one of the Best X-Characters that we cant get enough of. Honestly I’m tired of Wolverine, who never dies and is in Every Team and Now going to be a major mutant leader?... With Jean/Phoenix at least she keeps us surprised with every return. I would love Marvel even more if she came back.

 
OH! the Possibilities of her return would really RoCK the X-World and maybe the Marvel Universe... hehe

 
For instance: 
 
Id like to see how Jean (including Marvel Girl) handles the whole HOPE "Phoenix power suggestion" thing (whatever goin on theres) and see what comes out of it and how they handle this so called Messiah. In addition, The whole phoenix power disappearing thing (from Marvel Girl and her bf’s Sword that contained a phoenix feather) that happened awhile back during the War of Kings... 


Jean could also come back and embrace the Phoenix Force and have a greater role in the Marvel Universe (hints: no longer having Scott and nothing to live for on Earth, it would be nice to see Jean take notices in finding out what the Phoenix's purpose and role in the cosmos is ) for instance, hints getting involved in what’s going on in deep space, seeking help to find a way to finally get rid or contain the dark side (Dark Phoenix) or even reclaim the M'KRAAN CRYSTAL as her own! Humm

 
K my last What Could happen: Jean/Phoenix comes back and decides to recruit others in doing so imprinting its own powers on other selected individuals (candidates: like Rogue temporary absorbing and possessing the Phoenix power, Marvel Girl, of course, Legion,  and Hope) (No Not Emma or the Cuckoos, been there done that haha we get it already their hot characters) using them as a means of a team against the next Apocalypse or a mission to fix some of the deep space issues happening.   
 
I will say there is one main thing about Jean/Phoenix return thats got'in annoying... and thats the whole Dark Phoenix thing... mean I think its time we moved on from that.


 
Man! So many Awesome things can come of her Return!


Defiantly Jean’s return will change things in the X-World in one way or another.


Hey! whatever happened to “MAKE MINE MARVEL!” haha  



couldnt agree more.....marvel has alot of loose ends to fill                    

               
#223 Posted by jorgeareizaga (343 posts) - - Show Bio

MARVEL BRING BACK JEAN GREY NOW!

#224 Posted by Teerack (8730 posts) - - Show Bio

Really sucks there introducing past Jean into the comics, and trying to act like she counts as bringing Jean back. It doesn't count. I want the real Jean to come back.

#225 Posted by EnSabahNurX (2321 posts) - - Show Bio

@Teerack said:

Really sucks there introducing past Jean into the comics, and trying to act like she counts as bringing Jean back. It doesn't count. I want the real Jean to come back.

Just think if they have that jean collect her memories from her "friends" she has yet to meet in her time that could make for an interesting story

Rachel can train her which would be pretty cool

Problem is this jean is 17 O_O But they did retcon that her powers during that time were progressing in leaps and pounds(based on all the x-men first class stories and such)

#226 Posted by Teerack (8730 posts) - - Show Bio

@EnSabahNurX said:

@Teerack said:

Really sucks there introducing past Jean into the comics, and trying to act like she counts as bringing Jean back. It doesn't count. I want the real Jean to come back.

Just think if they have that jean collect her memories from her "friends" she has yet to meet in her time that could make for an interesting story

Rachel can train her which would be pretty cool

Problem is this jean is 17 O_O But they did retcon that her powers during that time were progressing in leaps and pounds(based on all the x-men first class stories and such)

All of that only makes her more not Jean Grey.

#227 Posted by jgrainer (3 posts) - - Show Bio

Jean should come back and chastise Scottie for rejecting all his morals to become a near facist. On the other hand, if we read Morrison's run correctly, Jean left the playing field to allow Scott to be with Emma. It was as if she knew that the idealistic woman she is could not deal with what eventually had to happen. Remember, the last time she died, House of M had not happened, all the tragedy associated with Messiah Complex hadn't happened. SUre, she dealt with Genosha, but Jean Grey was the epitome of Xavier's dream. She would love Logan's new school but probably reject Utopia. Now we get to find out, yes?

#228 Posted by Perfect 10 (1473 posts) - - Show Bio

the original Jean Grey all the way. obviously she would have the phoenix powers (unless they give them to hope). i prefer the no code name jean grey and she needs to get back with scott. they are soulmates and their love story is the most beautiful thing i've ever read. they belong together, no matter who they are with that other person would never live up to what they had and it would be a disservice to all parties involved. i would also love to see the family aspect of the summers clan since all the Grey kids are alive and in the same timeline (nate, cable, and rachel). we have seen scott and jean deal with the kids individually but i would love to see how all five characters interact with each other and what team would she join. also storm and jean are best friends, a relationship that has been down played since the dissolussion of the gold team in the 90's. i would love a one issue story focusing on these two reconnecting and catching up and showing their bound as "sisters"

#229 Posted by HopesummersFORtheFUTURE (4912 posts) - - Show Bio

bad emma tries to kill hope

#230 Posted by flazam (2598 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't really want her to come back I want them to put more focus on Hope

#231 Edited by mechem_93 (122 posts) - - Show Bio

Hope is a living plot device that served its purpose. All focus must be put on teen Jean.

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