Jay Garrick Redesign

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#1 Posted by BlackArmor (6141 posts) - - Show Bio
#3 Posted by jsphsmth (1136 posts) - - Show Bio

NOT my favorite redesign of the DCnU.

#4 Posted by Video_Martian (5645 posts) - - Show Bio

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It's official. This series is gonna suck. -_-

#5 Posted by hectorsquall (1137 posts) - - Show Bio

Looks good, but I will miss the old helmet :(

Even Clark is sad.
#6 Posted by BlackArmor (6141 posts) - - Show Bio

@jsphsmth: Supergirl's costume makes 2 bad designs

#7 Posted by Joygirl (19973 posts) - - Show Bio

Lololololololololol.

Lol.

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BWAHAHAHAHAHA. Flash can't wear blue. Everybody knows blue isn't fast. He looks like Ant Man cosplaying as Flash. Poorly.

#8 Posted by jsphsmth (1136 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlackArmor: She will only be in that costume in the first issue, unless Levitz will be using flashbacks in Worlds' Finest.

#9 Posted by royale_with_cheese (747 posts) - - Show Bio
#10 Posted by The Poet (8336 posts) - - Show Bio

oh, that looks terrible...

@Joygirl said:

Lololololololololol.

Lol.

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BWAHAHAHAHAHA. Flash can't wear blue. Everybody knows blue isn't fast. He looks like Ant Man cosplaying as Flash. Poorly.

well, actully Jay Garrick wore blue pants as part of his costume since the 1940s...and Jay Garrick is the First Flash, so...Flash has been wearing blue for 72 years :]

So, the color scheme is pretty much the same. Its the hat which is the most different...

There is no Hermes influence in that electric bug looking thing you call a helmet..

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#11 Posted by _Zombie_ (10443 posts) - - Show Bio

@royale_with_cheese said:

Was just going to post this..

#12 Posted by tonis (6202 posts) - - Show Bio

hmmm, maybe it's just me, but I actually like this redesign, especially compared to the horrendous ones they've shown for some of their other earth-2 characters.

The helmet is so-so, but the costume looks bad ass, especially with the bolt offset to the side like that.

#13 Posted by BatWatch (2726 posts) - - Show Bio

Hate the pants. The rest is meh. The artwork itself is nice.

#14 Posted by The_Tree (7481 posts) - - Show Bio

As I stated previously, for a younger, more modern look for Jay, I really like it.

#15 Posted by chalkshark (1189 posts) - - Show Bio

My God! Is DC just completely incapable of coming up with a decent design? This butcher's parade of eyesores is unbearable. Who would actually want to draw that costume several dozen times an issue? If you are incapable of improving on the pre-existing design... especially say a design that has endured for 7 decades... then leave it alone. I don't know who that clown is that's running through the sewer, but that's not Jay Garrick. Couldn't be.

#16 Posted by ArturoCalaKayVee (11621 posts) - - Show Bio

@tonis said:

hmmm, maybe it's just me, but I actually like this redesign, especially compared to the horrendous ones they've shown for some of their other earth-2 characters.

The helmet is so-so, but the costume looks bad ass, especially with the bolt offset to the side like that.

Totally agree.

#17 Posted by TheOptimist (713 posts) - - Show Bio

The way that the yellow bolt comes up is the only thing that I perceive as a negative from the design... depending on further depictions, I may not mind it. I certainly think that it is different... but don't have a huge problem with the difference.

Now... I've been flipping around tons of pages on the internets looking at people's comments on this design... (resisting commenting on their reactions)... and nowhere thus far have I seen a reaction that was similar to my own... namely that this reminds me a touch of CSA Johnny Quick... closer re-examinations of the designs might suggest why, but some element of it still lingers... especially around the helmet designs... surely I can't be the only one that sees this?

I'm pretty excited. I loved the old Jay Garrick (previous and elderly, both meanings) but I'm excited to see where this goes. Quite frankly, the elder JSAers had worn on me a bit in the past few years... not saying that they're all done and that their old forms have no value... just that I think a little bit of break and revision could potentially do them well. As others have stated, the return to their other state would be a rather simple writeup... and because of that I'm cool to let them rest and let their younger representations take hold. After all, I did always wonder what much younger Jay and Allen would be like.

Sadly, the "This is not the JSA" message is ringing pretty clearly now, which only makes me sad because it bodes ill for my most loved of bottom tier characters... but the further they push this title away from being JSA, the more hopeful I become for an actual Justice Society launch coming in the future.

#18 Posted by Video_Martian (5645 posts) - - Show Bio

@Joygirl said:

Lololololololololol.

Lol.

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BWAHAHAHAHAHA. Flash can't wear blue. Everybody knows blue isn't fast. He looks like Ant Man cosplaying as Flash. Poorly.

Funnily enough, I was gonna post something similar to this...

#19 Posted by cattlebattle (12779 posts) - - Show Bio

  

#20 Posted by cracker_jack (220 posts) - - Show Bio

I like the costume but the helmet is ugly.

#21 Edited by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

So it's not Wally. And Garrick's costume does look lame.

Edit: Why don't the .gif's I post ever move...

Edit again: It works! :D

#22 Posted by The_Tree (7481 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheOptimist: Haha, I was actually thinking the same thing about Johnny Quick, I just kept the thought to myself. The helmet also reminds me of Mento's when he appeared in Doom Patrol about 2 years ago.

#23 Posted by fodigg (6146 posts) - - Show Bio

Ehh, I'm not exactly thrilled by the design but I guess considering the classic was such an icon it'd be tough to bring it into the modern era without making some sort of compro—OH GOD PLEASE JUST BRING BACK WALLY please, please bring back Wally.

#24 Posted by _Zombie_ (10443 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024 said:

So it's not Wally. And Garrick's costume does look lame.

Edit: Why don't the .gif's I post ever move...

Upload it to your gallery and copy/paste the image into the post. Don't use the image thing on the text editor to put it in. It should move after that.

#25 Posted by TheOptimist (713 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Tree said:

@TheOptimist: Haha, I was actually thinking the same thing about Johnny Quick, I just kept the thought to myself. The helmet also reminds me of Mento's when he appeared in Doom Patrol about 2 years ago.

Oh thank goodness... it might seem strange, but I was feeling slightly uncomfortable and insecure about it! And yes on the Mento helmet, I totally see that now...

@Gambit1024 said:

So it's not Wally. And Garrick's costume does look lame.

Well, good news then Pongo old chap, at least you don't have to be upset that Wally's costume doesn't meet your fancy just yet!

#26 Posted by Kal'smahboi (3519 posts) - - Show Bio

It's ok. I don't particularly like the goggles but the rest is pretty good, to me.

#27 Posted by ArturoCalaKayVee (11621 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024: How would you feel if that was Wally with that costume? Would you feel better?

#28 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

@ZombieBigfoot: Got it. Thanks :)

@ArturoCalaKayVee: Not good, but at least I'd know that Wally's ok. He could be dead for all we know :(

#29 Posted by ArturoCalaKayVee (11621 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024: If Wally is dead...or doesn't exist....may God have mercy on their souls' because even The Spectre will fear my wraith. Same goes for Donna and Garth. (I know Garth was mentioned in RHatO but we've yet to see him.)

#30 Posted by The_Tree (7481 posts) - - Show Bio

@ArturoCalaKayVee: I don't think we'll be seeing Garth any time soon, considering he died in Blackest Night.

#31 Posted by _Zombie_ (10443 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024 said:

@ZombieBigfoot: Got it. Thanks :)

@ArturoCalaKayVee: Not good, but at least I'd know that Wally's ok. He could be dead for all we know :(

Welcome, DH showed me how to do it when I was running into the same problem.

#32 Edited by _Zombie_ (10443 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Tree said:

@ArturoCalaKayVee: I don't think we'll be seeing Garth any time soon, considering he died in Blackest Night.

I remember hearing that the red beast-boy look-a-like on Ravagers is supposed to actually be BB.

#33 Posted by ArturoCalaKayVee (11621 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Tree: Exactly. But with reboot, there's a chance they revived him. I see no point in killing/removing most of the original side kicks just because DC has created a new wave of Teen Titans. What do Roy and Dick have that makes them so special that Donna, Wally, and Garth don't have? Don't get me wrong, I'm a HUGE Dick fan (that sounds REALLY wrong..) and I like Roy (at times) but Wally is a legend, Garth is AWESOME, and Donna is a bad ass. In my opinion, it would only be fair to either keep all the first gen side kicks or remove them all together, which I know DC won't do.

#34 Posted by ArturoCalaKayVee (11621 posts) - - Show Bio

@ZombieBigfoot said:

@The_Tree said:

@ArturoCalaKayVee: I don't think we'll be seeing Garth any time soon, considering he died in Blackest Night.

I remember hearing that the red beast-boy look-a-like on Ravagers is supposed to actually be BB.

The red-beast IS beast boy. He's red because of what ever is happening in AnimalMan/SwampThing. He'll return to green soon enough, hopefully.

#35 Posted by _Zombie_ (10443 posts) - - Show Bio

@ArturoCalaKayVee said:

@ZombieBigfoot said:

@The_Tree said:

@ArturoCalaKayVee: I don't think we'll be seeing Garth any time soon, considering he died in Blackest Night.

I remember hearing that the red beast-boy look-a-like on Ravagers is supposed to actually be BB.

The red-beast IS beast boy. He's red because of what ever is happening in AnimalMan/SwampThing. He'll return to green soon enough, hopefully.

Just to make sure I didn't bring up something irrelevant, are you guys talking about BB, or some other Garth?

#36 Posted by The_Tree (7481 posts) - - Show Bio

@ArturoCalaKayVee: Considering that DC's not willing to give Wally any page time because they want to focus on Barry, I doubt they'll revive Garth, because they'll probably want the main focus to be on Jackson.

#37 Posted by The_Tree (7481 posts) - - Show Bio

@ZombieBigfoot: I know I was talking about Tempest/Aqualad aka Garth.

#38 Posted by ArturoCalaKayVee (11621 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Tree: Oh, I know that, but they shouldn't rule Wally out completely. Especially since DC knows how many people are COMPLAINING about Wally's limbo status. They can keep jackson, just keep Garth also. Aquaman gave up being apart of Atlantis, it needs a king. Garth can be King and Jackson can be his Aqualad. Though, I don't really know where Jackson has been since Aquaman has left Atlantis. I doubt he's been chillin down there.

@ZombieBigfoot: Hahaha oops, I meant Tempest, not Beast Boy.

#39 Posted by _Zombie_ (10443 posts) - - Show Bio

@ArturoCalaKayVee said:

@The_Tree: Oh, I know that, but they shouldn't rule Wally out completely. Especially since DC knows how many people are COMPLAINING about Wally's limbo status. They can keep jackson, just keep Garth also. Aquaman gave up being apart of Atlantis, it needs a king. Garth can be King and Jackson can be his Aqualad. Though, I don't really know where Jackson has been since Aquaman has left Atlantis. I doubt he's been chillin down there.

@ZombieBigfoot: Hahaha oops, I meant Tempest, not Beast Boy.

@The_Tree said:

@ZombieBigfoot: I know I was talking about Tempest/Aqualad aka Garth.

Oh, I see. Carry on then.

#40 Posted by RedOwl_1 (1664 posts) - - Show Bio

One word: Sh*t

@hectorsquall said:

Looks good, but I will miss the old helmet :(

Even Clark is sad.

For more I hated that helmet (looked like a strainer in my opinion), with this new design I'll miss it too

#41 Posted by Saren (25679 posts) - - Show Bio

I honestly thought that was Johnny Quick.

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#42 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (13174 posts) - - Show Bio

I love how people complain about this costume as if it's much worse than Jay's classic look

#43 Posted by BiteMe-Fanboy (7853 posts) - - Show Bio

Holy crap that is horribly UGLY!... Come on DC.... Stop sh*tting all over your characters.

#44 Posted by TheWholeDamnShow (758 posts) - - Show Bio

The helmet ruined it. Put Garrick's OG helmet and you have yourself Earth 2 Flash.

#45 Posted by GundamHeavyarms (701 posts) - - Show Bio

I like jay's costume, its a modernized version of his older one, I just wish the lightning bolt wasnt running down his leg, but other than that I like it.

#46 Posted by BlackArmor (6141 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump

#47 Posted by Loki9876 (3049 posts) - - Show Bio

@Avenging-X-Bolt said:

I love how people complain about this costume as if it's much worse than Jay's classic look
yeah, i like his new look only the helmet is weird but the old one was weird too.
#48 Posted by Dracade102 (8167 posts) - - Show Bio

Why is Jay Garrick in a Spider-man jumpsuit with Ant-Man's helmet.

#49 Posted by Izaiah (5199 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't love it, but I don't hate it either...

#50 Posted by Acer. (2075 posts) - - Show Bio

I think it looks badass

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