Why does Jason Todd wear a red bat symbol?

#1 Posted by Skunkstein (591 posts) - - Show Bio

If Jason todd wants nothing to do with the Bat-family and Gotham in general why does he wear a red bat symbol? Ive heard Scott Lobdell saying its because he is being ironic, like an anarchist wearing military symbols etc.

I guess i can buy that, it sounds like a Jason like reasoning, but is it every technically explained in the comic books why he wears it? I havent read much of Red Hood and the outlaws, so im not sure how much is explained there.

#2 Posted by sagejonathan (1938 posts) - - Show Bio

Someone gave a good explanation for this before. He/she said that the symbol was almost like a gang symbol to strike fear into others. People who see it know that if they mess with Jason, Batman will get involved.

#3 Posted by danhimself (22499 posts) - - Show Bio

the reason behind it is because he's wearing one of Nightwing's old costumes....Starfire had a bunch of Dick's old suits in her ship so whenever she rescued Jason and he needed something to wear that's what he put on and he's been wearing it ever since

#4 Posted by KnightRise (4785 posts) - - Show Bio

@danhimself said:

the reason behind it is because he's wearing one of Nightwing's old costumes....Starfire had a bunch of Dick's old suits in her ship so whenever she rescued Jason and he needed something to wear that's what he put on and he's been wearing it ever since

Yep.

@Skunkstein: New-52 Jason doesn't exactly want nothing to do with the Bat-family. They've been interacting here and there

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#5 Posted by Superdork (917 posts) - - Show Bio

@danhimself said:

the reason behind it is because he's wearing one of Nightwing's old costumes....Starfire had a bunch of Dick's old suits in her ship so whenever she rescued Jason and he needed something to wear that's what he put on and he's been wearing it ever since

Also, to piss the Bat-family off

#6 Posted by Cap10nate (2255 posts) - - Show Bio

So that when people look at his costume on the the cover of RHATO, they see the symbol and associate him with Batman in a hope to drive sales since Red Hood isn't as synonomous with Batman as Robin , Batgirl, or even Nightwing.

#7 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (33099 posts) - - Show Bio

@Cap10nate: He is though, he's a member of Batman Inc, he helped the bat fam out during the Night of Owls and Death of the Familly also Tim and Jason have been working together passing each other information

#8 Posted by danhimself (22499 posts) - - Show Bio

@KnightRise said:

@danhimself said:

the reason behind it is because he's wearing one of Nightwing's old costumes....Starfire had a bunch of Dick's old suits in her ship so whenever she rescued Jason and he needed something to wear that's what he put on and he's been wearing it ever since

Yep.

@Skunkstein: New-52 Jason doesn't exactly want nothing to do with the Bat-family. They've been interacting here and there

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he says he doesn't but he sure is in Gotham a lot

#9 Posted by Skunkstein (591 posts) - - Show Bio

@danhimself said:

the reason behind it is because he's wearing one of Nightwing's old costumes....Starfire had a bunch of Dick's old suits in her ship so whenever she rescued Jason and he needed something to wear that's what he put on and he's been wearing it ever since

Right, that makes sense.

@KnightRise: @Superdork: Gotcha... ive felt that Jason was the unofficial bat-member... especially after flashpoint. It also feels like Bruce and Jasons relationship, while still troublesome, have been soften up in new 52.

I honestly like Jason a whole lot more in the last year than i had previously.

#10 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20176 posts) - - Show Bio

@Skunkstein: Well in the New 52 I think he's trying to reform and be more with the Bat-Family.

#11 Posted by daredevil21134 (11559 posts) - - Show Bio

I hate it

#12 Posted by JohnnyGat (1565 posts) - - Show Bio

The meaning behind it is that there is no meaning. It was a convenient costume he could wear when he was left naked in Starfire's island. The way Lobdell developed Jason was more in lines of Jason moving on from feeling betrayed by Bruce.

#13 Posted by JohnnyGat (1565 posts) - - Show Bio

@Skunkstein said:

@danhimself said:

the reason behind it is because he's wearing one of Nightwing's old costumes....Starfire had a bunch of Dick's old suits in her ship so whenever she rescued Jason and he needed something to wear that's what he put on and he's been wearing it ever since

Right, that makes sense.

@KnightRise: @Superdork: Gotcha... ive felt that Jason was the unofficial bat-member... especially after flashpoint. It also feels like Bruce and Jasons relationship, while still troublesome, have been soften up in new 52.

I honestly like Jason a whole lot more in the last year than i had previously.

The fact that Batman trusted Jason enough in Batman Inc really does drive the point that Bruce and Jason are on less rocky grounds.

#14 Posted by KnightRise (4785 posts) - - Show Bio

@JohnnyGat said:

@Skunkstein said:

@danhimself said:

the reason behind it is because he's wearing one of Nightwing's old costumes....Starfire had a bunch of Dick's old suits in her ship so whenever she rescued Jason and he needed something to wear that's what he put on and he's been wearing it ever since

Right, that makes sense.

@KnightRise: @Superdork: Gotcha... ive felt that Jason was the unofficial bat-member... especially after flashpoint. It also feels like Bruce and Jasons relationship, while still troublesome, have been soften up in new 52.

I honestly like Jason a whole lot more in the last year than i had previously.

The fact that Batman trusted Jason enough in Batman Inc really does drive the point that Bruce and Jason are on less rocky grounds.

I wish they explained that more. Jason used the phrase "pretended to love me" as recent as issue 8 yet he's been in the Batcave-under neccesary circumstance-but still...

#15 Posted by entropy_aegis (15255 posts) - - Show Bio

I dont know the story explanation but it seems pretty obvious,when people look at Jason they'll automatically associate him with Batman.It's a business strategy nothing more.

#16 Posted by daredevil21134 (11559 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis said:

I dont know the story explanation but it seems pretty obvious,when people look at Jason they'll automatically associate him with Batman.It's a business strategy nothing more.

Exactly

#17 Posted by consolemaster001 (5351 posts) - - Show Bio

REDemption

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#18 Posted by dngn4774 (3032 posts) - - Show Bio

the reason behind it is because he's wearing one of Nightwing's old costumes....Starfire had a bunch of Dick's old suits in her ship so whenever she rescued Jason and he needed something to wear that's what he put on and he's been wearing it ever since

Anyone else find it creepy that Nightwing's ex still keeps all of his old costumes like a stalker?

#19 Edited by daredevil21134 (11559 posts) - - Show Bio

Its a lame marketing tool.

#20 Posted by fodigg (6146 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think enough has been made of the fact that Jason has been willingly giving away his happiest memories (he does so in an early arc of Red Hood and the Outlaws), which are implied to be of his time with Bruce. I think this is what mellowed him toward the Bat Family. He didn't feel as betrayed because he didn't feel as connected. This allowed him enough distance to kind of/sort of return. It's a very interesting concept.

#21 Edited by daredevil21134 (11559 posts) - - Show Bio

He's better off alone imo

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