Where is he going at this point?

#1 Posted by DeathpooltheT1000 (5898 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago - Show Bio

A)He get into a vigilante with weapons and a weird code of honor, not a heroe, but not a villain.
B)He gets back at the Batfamily like the bad son, he is still very angry, he dont kill, still he get more dark and bloody that Batman.
C)He gets screwed like the Punisher.
I am sick and Tired that Dc tries to make hima Punisher/Solo/Batman, i liked more him when i feel him as a Batman/Vigilante/Deathstroke.
Why does every Vigilante that uses guns ands screwed?
Because Marvel and Dc decide to make them Frank Castles.

#2 Posted by daredevil21134 (7474 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago - Show Bio

I'm not sure yet

#3 Posted by joshmightbe (19473 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago - Show Bio

If I was writing him I'd have him hit rock bottom completely then he'd have this moment of clarity like an alcoholic when he realizes he has a problem then he'd go on a path of redemption, and eventually have him do something big that makes even Batman see him as a hero again

#4 Posted by DeathpooltheT1000 (5898 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@joshmightbe said:

If I was writing him I'd have him hit rock bottom completely then he'd have this moment of clarity like an alcoholic when he realizes he has a problem then he'd go on a path of redemption, and eventually have him do something big that makes even Batman see him as a hero again

I like that, still i dont want him to lose his look and that he is to violent.
I think he could be a Batfamily member, but still be a very violent angry guy, also he could get guns with not letal bullet like in XXX with Vin Diesel.

#5 Posted by Primmaster64 (21131 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@joshmightbe said:

If I was writing him I'd have him hit rock bottom completely then he'd have this moment of clarity like an alcoholic when he realizes he has a problem then he'd go on a path of redemption, and eventually have him do something big that makes even Batman see him as a hero again

Cool

#6 Posted by jrock85 (2870 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@joshmightbe said:

If I was writing him I'd have him hit rock bottom completely then he'd have this moment of clarity like an alcoholic when he realizes he has a problem then he'd go on a path of redemption, and eventually have him do something big that makes even Batman see him as a hero again

I really hope DC comics sees this post. LOL

#7 Posted by daredevil21134 (7474 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago - Show Bio

He already hit Rock Bottom in Batman & Robin lol @jrock85:

#8 Posted by RedHoodsDen (495 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago - Show Bio

What the hell is redemption? Screaming "Nooooooooooooooooooooooo!" when Captain Nazi gets dropped like the other simps in spandex? Bruce is boring, his kids are boring, his extended international fascist party is boring. We beat the the devil, and all that's left is the Mickey Mouse Club for Grant Morrison.

Vigilante who kills. Different City.

Jason graduated from the world of cartoon hero morality back in 1989. Paid for in his own blood. You can't go home again.

#9 Posted by joshmightbe (19473 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@RedHoodsDen: I wasn't saying turn him back into Robin or even put him back in the Bat family just make him more than a whiny step child with a gun

#10 Posted by RedHoodsDen (495 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago - Show Bio

His own series is what's needed then. Away from the others.

#11 Posted by Meinos Kaen (39 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@RedHoodsDen said:

His own series is what's needed then. Away from the others.

Hmm... On this, I don't agree. Own series yeah, but away from the others? No way. The biggest fun is when he clashes with them and their morality and disaster ensues. Well, the problem is that it's almost always ended in bigger disaster for him, Winick non-withstanding.

#12 Posted by daredevil21134 (7474 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@RedHoodsDen said:

What the hell is redemption? Screaming "Nooooooooooooooooooooooo!" when Captain Nazi gets dropped like the other simps in spandex? Bruce is boring, his kids are boring, his extended international fascist party is boring. We beat the the devil, and all that's left is the Mickey Mouse Club for Grant Morrison. Vigilante who kills. Different City. Jason graduated from the world of cartoon hero morality back in 1989. Paid for in his own blood. You can't go home again.

true

#13 Posted by Sydpart2 (1084 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago - Show Bio

idk man, I know I'm kind of in the minority but I liked what Morrison did with him, doing the same thing as the heroes but with a lethal twist to show them his way works better, now sure that led to Flamingo but if Jason didn't get so hot headed about Dick I think he could have won that...

#14 Edited by RedHoodsDen (495 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago - Show Bio

It more than led to Flamingo, arguably it brought metas from the Society to Gotham in Under The Hood to kill Jason. More reason Morrison's story was redundant.

And of course he has to be away from the others, because the obvious lesson is Batman would always stop Jason. Not much of a series that way.

#15 Posted by DeathpooltheT1000 (5898 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago - Show Bio

Jason need to keep in gotham or if not keep with another character that conect him with Batman.
I am sure he could go to live to another city, but i mean, he and Batman have a relationship to big to explore, another thing, batman cant be at all places at the same time, is easy to explain why batman dont stop him.
Jason find a way to avoid Batman as much as posible.

#16 Posted by CrimsonAlchemist (367 posts) - 1 year, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@joshmightbe: I know right that would be awesomem

#17 Posted by DeathpooltheT1000 (5898 posts) - 1 year, 8 months ago - Show Bio

With the new whole Outlaws thing, where is he going now?

#18 Posted by daredevil21134 (7474 posts) - 1 year, 8 months ago - Show Bio

We will see

#19 Posted by fodigg (4490 posts) - 1 year, 8 months ago - Show Bio

I'd like him to remain as a typical, gun-toting anti-hero. Like the opposite of Deadshot, who I view more as an anti-villain. He should be at odds with the Bat-family but not a true villain himself.

#20 Posted by DeathpooltheT1000 (5898 posts) - 1 year, 8 months ago - Show Bio

@fodigg said:

I'd like him to remain as a typical, gun-toting anti-hero. Like the opposite of Deadshot, who I view more as an anti-villain. He should be at odds with the Bat-family but not a true villain himself.

To be honest i think of Jason more like a Byronic Hero that an Anti Hero, i see him more heroic that the Punisher or even 80s Wolverine.

#21 Posted by daredevil21134 (7474 posts) - 1 year, 8 months ago - Show Bio

Red Hood and the Outlaws rocked by the way

#22 Posted by fodigg (4490 posts) - 1 year, 8 months ago - Show Bio

@DeathpooltheT1000 said:

@fodigg said:
I'd like him to remain as a typical, gun-toting anti-hero. Like the opposite of Deadshot, who I view more as an anti-villain. He should be at odds with the Bat-family but not a true villain himself.
To be honest i think of Jason more like a Byronic Hero that an Anti Hero, i see him more heroic that the Punisher or even 80s Wolverine.

You're probably right, but then I think a lot of modern use of the term "anti-hero" is used for the typical byronic hero: an idealized protagonist, but jaded, disrespectful, and lacking integrity. A true anti-hero is more like a Falstaff. I'm not trying to defend this misuse, I'm just saying it's common.

#23 Posted by DeathpooltheT1000 (5898 posts) - 1 year, 8 months ago - Show Bio

@fodigg: Is like Litterrally, i mean is so hard to understand that the word means, it did happened?

I just hope Jason keeps his porsonallity and nothing weird happens to him.

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