Off My Mind: How Much of Jason Todd's History Remains in 'The New 52'?

  • 60 results
  • 1
  • 2
Posted by G-Man (36555 posts) - - Show Bio

Who is Jason Todd? There have been different versions of the former Robin and he has taken on many different guises. Growing up on the streets of Gotham City, as Robin, Jason always had a bit of an attitude. He was reckless and didn't always follow Batman's orders. To him, it was all a game. Even though he channeled his anger towards fighting crime, this was all to be his downfall.

With his death and resurrection, Jason has had numerous different identities and has been both an ally and nemesis for Batman and others in the Bat-family. With all the updates and tweaks in 'The New 52,' many characters have lost some of their history and some might be wondering if this is the Jason we know. How much of his history remains and who exactly is Jason Todd today?

== TEASER ==

The Bat-universe has remained relatively unchanged but we have witnessed a tighter period of time in terms of continuity and history. Most of the major events still occurred but DC has made it clear that some of the major events or different CRISIS have not happened. In JUSTICE LEAGUE #1, we're seeing the DC Universe 'five years ago.' This is the beginning of the gathering of heroes. Batman is established but it's unclear whether or not Dick Grayson is acting as Robin. NIGHTWING #3 showed he was still at Haley's Circus 'five years ago' (whether this is the case or a typo, it's not so clear).

What we basically have is five years for Dick, Jason, Tim Drake and Damian Wayne to spend time as Robin and even less time for Jason to go through all his different identities. Jason was Robin and we can assume was killed by Joker. Where does today's Jason Todd fit in with his pre-New 52 history?

Red Hood (first time)

It makes sense that Jason did return from the dead somehow. Whether or not his resurrection was due to Superboy Prime's superpunch remains to be seen. We've seen a flashback where Talia took him for training with the All Caste.

That means the chances of LOST DAYS still holding are pretty good. Jason went through his training and spent his time hating Batman.

Nightwing

During the One Year Later story arc, Jason turned up in New York City as a more violent and deadly Nightwing. Dick Grayson (also going operating as Nightwing) confronted him. The two actually worked together, despite Jason's more violent ways. Jason gave up being Nightwing, left Dick a letter and still considered himself part of the Bat-family.

Because we have a shorter time period, it's more likely this didn't happen. It was a bit of a change in Jason's personality to take on Dick's identity and to work with him as well as leaving on good terms. It wouldn't be surprising if this period was erased by 'The New 52' changes. It did show that despite his hatred and anger over what happened, he still had some of the hero inside.

Red Hood (second time)

After being Nightwing, Jason became Red Hood again. In Star City, he tried to convince Mia Dearden how dangerous being a sidekick was. He tried getting her to leave Green Arrow and join him. It didn't quite work out.

Afterwards, he became involved with the Countdown to Final Crisis story. Knowing that the Monitors were wiping out anomalies, Jason ended up joining forces with Donna Troy and Kyle Rayner and they had some adventures on different Earths in the Multiverse.

This is also a period that could be considered wiped out. Green Arrow is younger now. DC co-publisher Dan DiDio stated that the Crisis didn't happen so we can assume Infinite Crisis is gone as well. This time as Red Hood could also be considered forgotten.

Red Robin

In the Countdown event, Jason took on the guise of Red Robin after witnessing the death of Batman from Earth-51. This Earth's Batman had intended on giving the Jason of his Earth this costume when he was older.

After returning to their own world, Jason decided he didn't want the identity and destroyed the costume. Ulysses Armstrong later turned up in the pages of ROBIN wearing a similar costume (and then Tim Drake later took it after Damian Wayne became Robin).

It would also make sense that this time also didn't happen. He didn't assume the identity for long and if Countdown didn't happen, he wouldn't have put on the costume. It didn't make a lot of sense when he took on the guise.

It did serve to show us how Jason reacted to Batman's death, even if it wasn't his Batman. This Batman did more than his did when the Jason of Earth-51 was killed.

Batman

We can assume Battle for the Cowl did happen. Despite the mention of events or crisis not happening, Batman was still 'gone' and considered dead. Jason dressing up as a more violent Batman would fit.

Regardless of all his times of hating Batman, he still had affection for him. His hatred and anger was due to Batman not going after Joker after he killed Jason. It was the hurt and feeling of betrayal that pushed Jason over the edge (that and possibly dying and later going into the Lazarus Pit). There has been mention of Dick being Batman so that means Scott Snyder's run on DETECTIVE COMICS also holds for the most part.

Red Hood (third time)

After disappearing when fighting Dick at the end of Battle for the Cowl, Jason returned to being Red Hood. Most likely this would actually be the second time he became Red Hood. There hasn't been any mention of Scarlet or his time in prison so that brief time is still up in the air.

New 52 Red Hood

Jason now is operating as the leader of The Outlaws with Starfire and Roy Harper. They're not an official team but are developing a relationship based on similar emotional states. The three of them are basically recovering from a feeling of abandonment. Jason feels let down by Batman, Roy had a falling out with Green Arrow and Starfire...maybe it has to do with a break up with Dick or the old Teen Titans breaking up.

Jason Todd is operating outside of Batman's inner circle but there seems to still be some connection. Jason has access to some impressive technology and has some money. The money could have been acquired through other means but it wouldn't be too surprising if the money was tied to Bruce Wayne in some ways.

Jason also wears a bat-symbol on his chest. This could be out of a sense of loyalty to Batman and the memory of what they once stood for. He may be angry and hurt by what happened and what Batman failed to do but deep down he still believes in doing the right thing.

Or it could be Jason way to say "Screw you" to Batman. Taking on guns and more violent means is not something Batman would approve of. This would be Jason's way to rub it in Batman's face. Some may question Jason's depiction in 'The New 52' but when you look back at his entire history, even what is now erased, it makes sense that he has a longing to be a hero. But as Batman told him in his message during Battle for the Cowl, he needs some professional help. Jason wants to be a hero but has too much pain and anger inside.

Jason continues to remain a complex character. Some of his different guises may not still hold in the 'New 52' but what we're seeing in the pages of RED HOOD AND THE OUTLAWS is fitting with who Jason was and who he wants to be.

#1 Posted by Deadcool (6813 posts) - - Show Bio

He loves the color Red...

#2 Posted by Alex_Tides145210 (73 posts) - - Show Bio

I love that red hood has got a comic and i love his new look the books are very good so far can't wait till the next one

#3 Posted by Pokeysteve (8406 posts) - - Show Bio

If the new DCU has superheroes active for only 5 years then how did Batman go through three Robins and have a son? Dick grew up really fast!

#4 Posted by wowylied (238 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think the bat he is wearing is for being with batman, for me it is a joke for batman in order to tell him "This is how you treat criminal".

#5 Edited by RainEffect (3240 posts) - - Show Bio

If that nightmare that Winnick wrote of him sleeping with Talia is still canon, I am going to murder a cat. Don't even get me started on how ridiculously out of character it was. Winnick wouldn't know Talia's character even if she came up and stapled a '101' to his bollocks.

#6 Posted by fitchy101 (205 posts) - - Show Bio

@wowylied said:

I don't think the bat he is wearing is for being with batman, for me it is a joke for batman in order to tell him "This is how you treat criminal".

Yep, thats what I got too.

#7 Posted by Fantasgasmic (1071 posts) - - Show Bio

F**k Jason Todd.

#8 Posted by DXmagma (91 posts) - - Show Bio

@wowylied said:

I don't think the bat he is wearing is for being with batman, for me it is a joke for batman in order to tell him "This is how you treat criminal".

Normally I'd agree, but after issue 3 it seems more sympathetic then that.

#9 Posted by Croi (171 posts) - - Show Bio

His new costume is awesome, let me just say.

And although I am slightly confused to the timeline of the New 52 and the countless Robins we've seen, I must say - his Robin costume depicted in this issue... was freakin' awesome.

#10 Posted by goldenkey (2927 posts) - - Show Bio

not sure what to think about the symbol just yet. He obviously has love and hate for Batman. His most cherished memory. A night of hanging with Bruce as father and son. Pissed off at Batman enough to give that memory up when it was given back to him...............Not sure what to think yet.

#11 Posted by Phaedrusgr (1672 posts) - - Show Bio

His new style is great. Got to love the red bat insignia.

#12 Posted by goldenkey (2927 posts) - - Show Bio

BTW, Im thinking DC has a plan with Red Hood because the art is just damn good. If the style doesn't help sell this book a lot better then if someone with a less talent, then........................

#13 Posted by wowylied (238 posts) - - Show Bio

@DXmagma said:

@wowylied said:

I don't think the bat he is wearing is for being with batman, for me it is a joke for batman in order to tell him "This is how you treat criminal".

Normally I'd agree, but after issue 3 it seems more sympathetic then that.

Maybe, the fact that he act with others and seems to respect or like the allclan make him more human but when he kill suzie su he is another person, i think we must wait to read more about how this team was created.

#14 Edited by DXmagma (91 posts) - - Show Bio

@wowylied: We are working with a new continuity, so even if the events did happen they could've happened very differently. At the very least issue 3 showed that even if their methods differ, Jason still cherishes his time with Bruce, even if he doesn't want to.

Also while I may be misreading it, I got the impression from Detective comics #1 that people in batman Inc. can be considerably more violent then Batman himself. So if that's the case, maybe Red Hood is a member?

#15 Posted by wowylied (238 posts) - - Show Bio

@DXmagma said:

@wowylied: We are working with a new continuity, so even if the events did happen they could've happened very differently.

SPOILER WARNING: Click here to reveal hidden content.

at the very least issue 3 showed that even if he doesn't agree with Batman's methods, he still cherishes his time with Batman

Also while I may be misreading it, I got the impression from Detective comics #1 that people in batman Inc. can be considerably more violent then Batman himself. So if that's the case, maybe Red Hood is a member?

I totally agree for the part with batman inc, we can clearly see that the man in moscow even being with the bat is more violent than batman.

But for the continuity i don't know, i will wait for more issue before making conclusion.

#16 Posted by Eyz (3095 posts) - - Show Bio

I got the impression that the general lines stayed mostly the same, but it's in the details and how things took place that it will be vastly different.

#17 Posted by Grim (2080 posts) - - Show Bio

I think the Bat symbol is a cry out. He wants batman to find and acknowledge him, and by running around with it on hes calling him out. Hit me, hug me, just dont ignore me.

those last few pages of outlaws were heart wrenching btw. Just like the end of the Under the Red Hood movie. I feel for jason every time i see him as a kid...

#18 Posted by FoxxFireArt (3558 posts) - - Show Bio

It really feels like DC is pulling the same thing they did with Venom, and that doesn't necessarily mean it's good for his character. Venom was pretty popular for a while. Marvel wanted to give him his own series, but knew a protagonist who kills people wouldn't go over too well for the market they were aiming for. Instead, they went with the "Lethal Protector" angle. I gave the impression of a hero that's willing to kill, but he never really did. They wanted a killer Venom back, so they did the remove the symbiote then the Anti-Venom.

Jason Todd is better as a villain. The look is cool, but they are toning down his personality.

#19 Posted by laabitres (434 posts) - - Show Bio

epicness i think hes so badass even though hes evil

#20 Posted by nakobass (49 posts) - - Show Bio

I am loving the New 52 Red Hood. He's the only DC character I actually have any interest in right now. I'll take him over Batman anyday.

#21 Posted by Mister_Sensational (190 posts) - - Show Bio

I think the architects behind the new 52 have already kind of shot themselves in the foot by saying everything began just "5 years ago." That's not nearly enough time for such major things to happen, i.e. the formation of the justice league, batman going through 3 other robins before being with his current one who just so happens to be his 10 year old son, the death of Superman (which we still aren't sure is canon or not, and then there's everything that has happened with Green Lantern. I really hope they find a way to clear up all this confusion.

#22 Edited by feargalr (1163 posts) - - Show Bio

As much as I love villian books Im not sure how I feel about this one, it kinda seems like they're trying to redeem Jason, he is considerable cooler in this book then he was back when he was with scarlet... that was just weird...

To be honest, given that DC wants us to believe that that we had 3, possible 4 Robins (stephanie..maybe) in the space of a week and a half, Im guessing Jason was ressurected, trained with Talia and those folks from Outlaws #3 became red hood, then battle for the cowl where he was batman, and now he's back to red hood again.

As for the Bat symbol on his chest, I don't think its to do with any sort of loyalty to Bruce, but I think he feels a loyalty to the bat symbol and what he thinks it stands for, kinda like Cassandra a small bit..

#23 Posted by Outside_85 (9490 posts) - - Show Bio
@RainEffect:  :)
Kitty!
#24 Posted by ltbrd (562 posts) - - Show Bio

IMHO.......this history should have been changed so that Jason stayed dead after being beaten half to death and then blow-up by the Joker. It would just carry much greater weight than having him resurrected by Talia and then brought to this mysterious organization to train. Plus it would make things less confusing for new readers while still acknowledging an vital piece of Batman history. Hey wait, that's what this revamp was supposed to do wasn't it. What ever happened to that concept? Looks like Jason slipped under that net.

I'm not saying I don't like Jason, though he's never been done very well in the past I do think this version is hitting the marks of his character much more than anyone else did..................but I feel he's an unnecessary character given his attitude and approach so closely mirrors Damian's and what Damian could become. If anything Damian's character would be better off if Jason had stayed dead because then Bruce would have a tragic example of what happened to a Robin that was too aggressive and violent (in every version Jason was an angry, violent Robin compared to Dick or Tim).

Also, they should have kept his hair red. I mean, why does Bruce, Dick, Jason, Tim, and Damian all have to look like their siblings. It's just weird. The revamp was the perfect opportunity to bring some variety to the Bat-family. Keep Jason's hair red. Make Tim blonde or brunette. Do something that gives them a bit more individual identity. But now I'm just ranting.

#25 Posted by Nefilim927 (357 posts) - - Show Bio

Was the last page of Red Hood & the Outlaws #3 particularly heartbreaking to anyone else?

#26 Edited by ThomasElliot (362 posts) - - Show Bio

"Jason Todd is better as a villain. The look is cool, but they are toning down his personality."

THIS^^^

Morrisson's Jason Todd was the tits. Except for the whole 'Bruce made him dye his red hair black', which seemed extremely wacky.

I started thinking the same thing while reading Red Hood & The Outlaws... it seems like DC has written out that whole part where Jason Todd was basically DC's 'Punisher' and instead have gone back to 'angsty, bitter former Robin'.

Also... Jason's gadgets and goodies were/are provided by Talia and the League of Assassins. I'm not sure how you can read Outlaws #2 and not get that.

As far as the "5 Years Ago" thing... I think we're all on the same page that it makes no sense and does not work. However, just because the JL first met and formed 5 years ago does NOT mean Bruce hasn't been operating out of Gotham City for 20 or 30+ years. Remember Hal's first words in JL #1 is something to the effect of "You're real?", i.e. the 'legend' of the Batman is widely known. So basically, the entire history of the JL has been wiped while each character holds on to their individual histories outside of the JL (or unless otherwise noted in the character's respective comic). But even with that logic, I still find the whole thing messy and inconsistent... and that reason alone I'm not digging the new DCU too much.

#27 Posted by thedeenslist (11 posts) - - Show Bio

Look, Jason Todd should have stayed dead the moment Jeph and Jim screwed the pooch by not making him Hush. Ever since then, DC has just tried to close the barn door after the horse got out. They tried to capitalize on the reaction they got from people concerning the issue with him dressed as Hush, but of course bringing him back was never going to work after the original idea got screwed up. The entire history of DC post Hush in terms of Jason has been that they had no idea what to do with him. The didn't leave well enough alone and now they were stuck with a character who worked better as a villain only to not be a villain. Then, to make matters worse there hasn't been any consistency with the character. Is he a hero or a villain? Now, he's a hero but what happens when the book gets canceled? (It'll happen eventually.) They've set him up in this continuity thus continuing the problem. He should have been sent back to the dead. But, they tried to revamp him somewhat and hoped an entirely new contnuity would be enough to undo the continuing damage that had been done. Unfortunately, I don't think leading a rag tag triple threat of Green Arrow's former sidekick and an alien who apparently likes to sleep with a collection of smells (it's how Jason described it). But now we are to believe 4 Robin's in five years and who was murdered, resurrected, and now some sort of black sheep. Kill him, you screwed up. As Hush he would have been dynamic. As anything else, he's just a pathetic reminder of what might have been.

#28 Edited by Mayo88m (246 posts) - - Show Bio

They already said that Talia resurrected him against her father's wishes. It was in the second issue man, all in the first few pages. It also says that Joker was the one that beat him to death. Dunno why this guys is questioning these parts of the new continuity. Also,

@ThomasElliot said:

"Jason Todd is better as a villain. The look is cool, but they are toning down his personality."

THIS^^^

Morrisson's Jason Todd was the tits. Except for the whole 'Bruce made him dye his red hair black', which seemed extremely wacky.

I started thinking the same thing while reading Red Hood & The Outlaws... it seems like DC has written out that whole part where Jason Todd was basically DC's 'Punisher' and instead have gone back to 'angsty, bitter former Robin'.

Also... Jason's gadgets and goodies were/are provided by Talia and the League of Assassins. I'm not sure how you can read Outlaws #2 and not get that.

As far as the "5 Years Ago" thing... I think we're all on the same page that it makes no sense and does not work. However, just because the JL first met and formed 5 years ago does NOT mean Bruce hasn't been operating out of Gotham City for 20 or 30+ years. Remember Hal's first words in JL #1 is something to the effect of "You're real?", i.e. the 'legend' of the Batman is widely known. So basically, the entire history of the JL has been wiped while each character holds on to their individual histories outside of the JL (or unless otherwise noted in the character's respective comic). But even with that logic, I still find the whole thing messy and inconsistent... and that reason alone I'm not digging the new DCU too much.

This guys has the right of it. Just because the JL was just coming around 5 years prior doesn't mean that the capes weren't around long before it. It's fairly obvious they were, but unlike him I do like the new DCU.

#29 Posted by thedeenslist (11 posts) - - Show Bio

If I'm not mistaken they have said that Batman started four years prior to the JL start. So that's 9 years, 9 years and four Robins, Death in the Family, I believe Knightfall, Batman and Son, and Final Crisis had to have happened if he was "dead" and Dick took over and to have the Return arc that lead to his realization of Batman Inc. (ugh). All in all, the best thing they can do is ignore and not address the continuity issues, otherwise it's going to be clusterf#$% city. DC broke the cardinal rule of reboots, again. EVerything get's rebooted or nothing gets rebooted. Because now we have the Batman issue and the Green Lantern situation. And both of these could lead to some major problems of Hawkman proportions. But I do love the New 52 if for no other reason than it allows me to ignore all the stupid Grant Morrison stuff (sans Damian the only thing I actually liked) and once again enjoy the Dark Knight.

#30 Posted by Danial79 (2351 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd never read any DC before The New 52 and Jason Todd has already become one of my favourite characters. I don't understand why so many people seem to dislike him. From everything I've read on his backstory, he wasn't much different to Damian, and yet everyone loves him.

#31 Posted by AskaniSon295 (428 posts) - - Show Bio

Looks like someone pushed the "Deadpool Button" on Jason Todd and got Lil' Red Robin Hood.

#32 Posted by Kurupted13 (235 posts) - - Show Bio

Love the Red bat insignia it looks cool. Red Hood is such a badass.

#33 Posted by The Impersonator (5553 posts) - - Show Bio

Some of his different guises may not still hold in the 'New 52' but what we're seeing in the pages of RED HOOD AND THE OUTLAWS is fitting with who Jason was and who he wants to be.

And that's why he's called Red Hood. :P

#34 Posted by Sekele (276 posts) - - Show Bio

As much as we want

#35 Posted by kennybaese (1131 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pokeysteve said:

If the new DCU has superheroes active for only 5 years then how did Batman go through three Robins and have a son? Dick grew up really fast!

I think the idea is that Batman has been active for quite some time, and Superman has certainly been around for more than five years, though it's not clear how much longer. Either way, it's clear in Justice League that Batman has been around for a while and active as an urban myth, with the formation of the justice league being the first time he makes his existence public. In this case, you can fit all of the Robins you want into the continuity.

Overall, I think the DCU has had active superheroes for longer than five years, at least in Batman and Superman, but they've only been in the public eye for about five years.

#36 Posted by RedheadedAtrocitus (6885 posts) - - Show Bio

I have enjoyed all incarnations of Jason Todd's Red Hood character and enjoy this one as well. Frankly with this new order in the DCU under the New 52 I wouldn't be surprised, with all the changes made, that his history is tweaked as well.

#37 Posted by xkoenig (394 posts) - - Show Bio

I must say, I am finding it hard to like Jason the way Scott Lobdell is writing him right now. On the one hand he's an ***hole who just goes around killing people (ok, maybe they had it coming, but the scene in Red Hood & Outlaws 2 was pretty harsh), and on the other Scott is awkwardly trying to wedge in scenes showing how he's a good guy really (he saved some village, he has a touching memory of Batman). The problem is, he's being written as such a jackass I just don't buy the good-guy part as the story is currently being told. Just my 2 cents, so we'll see where this is headed and how the rest of the new backstory builds.

#38 Posted by mickoreo_LZ (250 posts) - - Show Bio

Based on this article I don't think there's any character as messed up as Jason Todd in the DCU. Talk about issues

#39 Posted by Hit_Monkey (920 posts) - - Show Bio

Not digging the new Jason Todd. These days he's more little red riding hood than Red Hood.

#40 Posted by NaNdoKaveli (7 posts) - - Show Bio

personajes así de complejos hacen de DC mi elección favorita ;)

#41 Posted by GBrutality (193 posts) - - Show Bio

thank you! i'm so glad somebody brought up that crazy notion from nightwing #3 that every robin and everything that's ever happened to batman and any robin (like dick being robin then nightwing then batman back to nightwing, or jason dying and coming back, or tim doing everything he did, or stephanie and her brief stint to damian showing up and being ten) happened in just five goddamn years.

#42 Posted by Nasar7 (157 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree with Sterling Gates (I think that's who said it). All this continuity counting needs to stop.

#43 Posted by Darkmount1 (1279 posts) - - Show Bio

Uh, I don't want to sound annoying, but isn't everyone here forgetting the Pre-Crisis version of Jason? You know, the one who WASN'T a rebellious street punk?

#44 Posted by tiger26 (129 posts) - - Show Bio

I really don t give a damn what people say i like the jason todd of the new 52 tired of seeing him as just someone who fights the batman familiy hes the reason i even like batman beside batman beyond

#45 Posted by Pokeysteve (8406 posts) - - Show Bio

@walkingcarpet said:

@Pokeysteve said:

If the new DCU has superheroes active for only 5 years then how did Batman go through three Robins and have a son? Dick grew up really fast!

I think the idea is that Batman has been active for quite some time, and Superman has certainly been around for more than five years, though it's not clear how much longer. Either way, it's clear in Justice League that Batman has been around for a while and active as an urban myth, with the formation of the justice league being the first time he makes his existence public. In this case, you can fit all of the Robins you want into the continuity.

Overall, I think the DCU has had active superheroes for longer than five years, at least in Batman and Superman, but they've only been in the public eye for about five years.

This makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the reply.

#46 Posted by Kal'smahboi (3561 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nasar7 said:
I agree with Sterling Gates (I think that's who said it). All this continuity counting needs to stop.
Yeah, it's getting old. I've just accepted that if something from the past is important, they'll mention it.
#47 Posted by Rabbit_May_Cry (303 posts) - - Show Bio

Regardless of what parts of his past remain, he's still Jason. So to me, the most important thing is that he IS in an ongoin' book.

This line-walkin' son-of-a-bitch is the BEST DC character...EVER!! Followed closely by Dick Grayson.

#48 Posted by Migz13 (170 posts) - - Show Bio

For some reason... I love him wearing that red bat symbol on his chest as Red Hood. In a way, it still connects him to the bat-family.

#49 Posted by monitor_earthprime (82 posts) - - Show Bio

No sooner has Batman's former sidekick, Jason Todd, put his past as the Red Hood behind him than he finds himself cornered by a pair of modern day outlaws: Green Arrow's rejected sidekick Arsenal, the damaged soldier of fortune, and the alien Starfire, a former prisoner of intergalactic war who won't be chained again.

As a loner, Jason has absolutely no interest in this motley crew of outlaws. So what's he going to do when they choose the Red Hood as their leader?

This is what was the original release of this series. Somehow it seems to have moved away from that. And we are supposed to get more members in this team?!

#50 Posted by TheMess1428 (2176 posts) - - Show Bio

It would make sense for Dick to not have been Robin during the Justice League origin arc. Dick Grayson was 16 when he became Robin, not 12. And he is 21 now, not 28. Damn re-aging. So I'm guessing Jason is 18, Tim is 16, and Damian is 10. Makes you wonder what ages Jason and Tim were when they became Robins.

This edit will also create new pages on Comic Vine for:

Beware, you are proposing to add brand new pages to the wiki along with your edits. Make sure this is what you intended. This will likely increase the time it takes for your changes to go live.

Comment and Save

Until you earn 1000 points all your submissions need to be vetted by other Comic Vine users. This process takes no more than a few hours and we'll send you an email once approved.