Jason pre-New 52 & Jason post-New 52

#1 Edited by Nantucket (49 posts) - - Show Bio

I have just been re-reading the Battle for the Cowl and it is amazing to see the transformation of Jason in regards to how he was written back then, in comparison to how he is written now.

Granted I felt his character was over-exaggerated in Battle for the Cowl, Jason does seem a lot more mellow compared to his not so psychotic version in 'Under the Hood'.

I personally prefer this post 52 Jason because although he still has that edge and is willing to use deadly force, he's clearly not psychotic and screaming at people.

What about you guys? Do you prefer pre or post 52 Jason?

#2 Posted by InfamousFish (353 posts) - - Show Bio

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#3 Posted by Nantucket (49 posts) - - Show Bio

@InfamousFish said:

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No room to elaborate?

#4 Posted by batmanary (798 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nantucket said:

I have just been re-reading the Battle for the Cowl and it is amazing to see the transformation of Jason in regards to how he was written back then, in comparison to how he is written now.

Granted I felt his character was over-exaggerated in Battle for the Cowl, Jason does seem a lot more mellow compared to his not so psychotic version in 'Under the Hood'.

I personally prefer this post 52 Jason because although he still has that edge and is willing to use deadly force, he's clearly not psychotic and screaming at people.

What about you guys? Do you prefer pre or post 52 Jason?

See, now, that's because Tony Daniel's a horrible writer.

#5 Posted by InfamousFish (353 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nantucket said:

@InfamousFish said:

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No room to elaborate?

Exactly as you said it, he is more mellow than pre 52.

#6 Posted by God_Spawn (37684 posts) - - Show Bio

Post. He has some direction for once.

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#7 Posted by Fuchsia_Nightingale (10180 posts) - - Show Bio

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#8 Posted by RedHush1 (96 posts) - - Show Bio

I want to say Pre because I loved some of the stories he was in But then I want to say post at the same time because he does have a direction now. So I'm split down the middle

#9 Posted by daredevil21134 (11461 posts) - - Show Bio

@RedHush1 said:

I want to say Pre because I loved some of the stories he was in But then I want to say post at the same time because he does have a direction now. So I'm split down the middle

This is how I feel

#10 Edited by Nathaniel_Christopher (1596 posts) - - Show Bio

As others have said, he had some good stories before, but no direction. It was all about that particular story and then he'd show up doing something random and acting a certain way, complaining about Bruce or whatever. Sometimes he was focused and deadly (Under the Hood) and sometimes he was off his freaking rocker (Battle for the Cowl). Now people seem to have a direction they're trying to send him in and that allows for growth in the character. Its also good to not have him just running around attacking random members of the Bat Family for giggles.

#11 Posted by CrimsonAlchemist (410 posts) - - Show Bio

@batmanary: Yea him and Grant Morrison really miss used Jason.

#12 Posted by ReVamp (22865 posts) - - Show Bio

@CrimsonAlchemist said:

Yea him and Grant Morrison really miss used Jason.

Yup.

#13 Posted by Cooke76 (74 posts) - - Show Bio

@ReVamp said:

@CrimsonAlchemist said:

Yea him and Grant Morrison really miss used Jason.

Yup.

Especially Grant Morrison.

#14 Posted by timelord786 (175 posts) - - Show Bio

Post it seems more like he has a plan now.

#15 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (12930 posts) - - Show Bio

Didn't he try to blow himself and Batman up in under the hood? And didnt he attack Tim Drake to make himself feel better in Teen Titans? So......yeah, he was still psychotic just quieter

#16 Posted by wessaari (622 posts) - - Show Bio

idk if he was necessarily psychotic in under the red hood, but his motives were certainly not in the right direction, he grew more psychotic as writers didnt know what to do with him. Fortunately Lobdell has taken the logical route and allowed him to grow in an environment where he doesnt need to be at batmans heels 24/7

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#17 Posted by r3d_rob1n (541 posts) - - Show Bio

His depiction under Morrison and Daniels was horrible. Jason lashing out at Batman right after his resurrection in Under the Hood was normal (at least expected), but his psychotic actions from there on was a bad move for the character. I really like what Lobdell is doing now in RHATO. Roy is such an obvious pairing for him. I'm amazed it took this long to realize they should be together in a team book.

#18 Edited by kasino (1785 posts) - - Show Bio

post still has his edge as pre but the direction is good

hope he starts using rubber bullets so he can rejoin the bat-family even as the raphael to his four brothers(although no michelangelo and one isn't needed_

man that would be better then young justice and justice league as a cartoon, could even cameo Batman

#19 Posted by NlGHTCRAWLER (2899 posts) - - Show Bio

Pre even though a lot of it was a mess. He was way more interesting back then.

#20 Posted by Death Certificate (5438 posts) - - Show Bio

post jason todd.

Having a decent direction is better than being a mixed bag depending who was writing him.

#21 Posted by Dernman (14954 posts) - - Show Bio

I do not like the new Jason Todd.

#22 Posted by djetter0801 (55 posts) - - Show Bio

Post - I enjoy his much more streamlined second origin. I always thought that the Under The Red Hood animated film hit the target right on the nose for how the story should have been told in the pre 52 universe.

#23 Posted by Shotgun (900 posts) - - Show Bio

I like the new Jason but I can't say the same for his new origin. Still miss his sassy way of talking.

#24 Posted by Funrush (1369 posts) - - Show Bio

@kasino said:

post still has his edge as pre but the direction is good

hope he starts using rubber bullets so he can rejoin the bat-family even as the raphael to his four brothers(although no michelangelo and one isn't needed_

man that would be better then young justice and justice league as a cartoon, could even cameo Batman

Dick - Leonardo

Jason - Raphael

Tim - Donatello

Damian - Michelangelo (It makes more sense the more you think about it)

#25 Posted by wessaari (622 posts) - - Show Bio

i appreciate his pre-52 stories with Winnick. but as of today, I prefer his new 52 version, especially after Morrison about destroyed his character

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#26 Posted by Z3RO180 (6454 posts) - - Show Bio

post 52 is awesome

#27 Posted by JasonTodd13 (423 posts) - - Show Bio

Pre 52 Jason Todd, post 52 version has a sucky origin compared to stealing tires of the batmobile, crappy robin costume compared to pre 52 robin costume for jason and post 52 resurrection of jason, extremely lame and stupid, no one can explain how a pit of liquid can restore a human soul back into its body.

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