Jason and Batman Inc.?

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#1 Posted by Unwritten Duck (110 posts) - - Show Bio

For those who have been following the whole Return of Bruce Wayne and everything that has to deal with that. I would like to hear the opinions of some of the Jason Todd fans. Now that Bruce has decided to literally franchise Batman, what does this mean for our favorite Anti-Hero in the red hood? How will this franchising effect Jason?

#2 Posted by daredevil21134 (10652 posts) - - Show Bio

Good question
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#3 Posted by Big (330 posts) - - Show Bio

He should NOT be incorporated. Jason is a loose cannon, always has been. He's the wild card that Batman could never account for, which is why he is such a menace. If anything, he could be a monkey wrench, posing a Batman, pulling his crazy schemes, and then, having Batman deal with that in the context of his new group.
#4 Posted by saiyan_earthling (5360 posts) - - Show Bio

Better question. Where is Jason and what's been recently happening to him?

#5 Posted by daredevil21134 (10652 posts) - - Show Bio
@saiyan_earthling:
he was in prison lastly
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#6 Posted by Emperor Gonzo Noir (19714 posts) - - Show Bio

Isn't he still in prison?

#7 Posted by daredevil21134 (10652 posts) - - Show Bio
@Emperor Gonzo Noir:
Yup
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#8 Posted by johnny_spam (2031 posts) - - Show Bio

Jason has been a disappointment to Bruce since he came back after everything he has pulled he would not be involved at all.

#9 Posted by Moonwalker (10 posts) - - Show Bio

I wish Jason was in more comics he isn't used enough

#10 Posted by speedlgt (2109 posts) - - Show Bio

what about TIm.......will drake be a Batman? if drake will be than why not todd. I think bruce wants to end the fued with jason this could be a way to bring him to the light side
#11 Posted by Dark Walker (477 posts) - - Show Bio

They should just keep him as an anti hero using the Red Hood name.  I liked him better as the Red Hood, he's become a much more interesting character now and a good addition to Batman's rogues gallery, a Robin gone bad.  Like johnny spam said

" Jason has been a disappointment to Bruce since he came back after everything he has pulled he would not be involved at all. "
Jason has crossed that line Bruce doesn't cross, for Jason to be taken in and become a Batmen would taint everything Batman stands for.
#12 Posted by daredevil21134 (10652 posts) - - Show Bio

i Lke him as Red Hodd
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#13 Posted by daredevil21134 (10652 posts) - - Show Bio
@Unwritten Duck:
Well said my friend and I really hope when get some closure between them too
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#14 Posted by Primmaster64 (21137 posts) - - Show Bio

Hopefully

#15 Posted by daredevil21134 (10652 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah
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#16 Posted by Primmaster64 (21137 posts) - - Show Bio

Its about time

#17 Posted by daredevil21134 (10652 posts) - - Show Bio

It sure is
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#18 Posted by AMS (1387 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman Inc might come crashing down on Bruce because someone else will cross the line and taint the whole image of it. 
#19 Posted by johnny_spam (2031 posts) - - Show Bio
@speedlgt: Tim will remain Red Robin Bruce is not making an army of Batman but representatives. 
 
@Unwritten Duck: I forgot who I think Tony Daniel at Comic Con said that he will be a villain to Dick like Joker for him. Which contradicts hints from Grant Morrison who said Jason could still be good and may appear in Inc. 
#20 Posted by Primmaster64 (21137 posts) - - Show Bio
@johnny spam: Morrison said that?
#21 Posted by johnny_spam (2031 posts) - - Show Bio
@Primmaster64: At Comic Con someone asked if Jason was good still and he responded he still could still have some good in him and that he may show up again when a fan asked if Jason would come back. 
#22 Edited by daredevil21134 (10652 posts) - - Show Bio
@johnny spam said:

" @speedlgt: Tim will remain Red Robin Bruce is not making an army of Batman but representatives. 
 
@Unwritten Duck: I forgot who I think Tony Daniel at Comic Con said that he will be a villain to Dick like Joker for him. Which contradicts hints from Grant Morrison who said Jason could still be good and may appear in Inc.  "


@johnny spam:
I heard about that too.Their never cosistent
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#23 Posted by Primmaster64 (21137 posts) - - Show Bio
@johnny spam: Nice...Tony was the one that ruined him.
#24 Posted by daredevil21134 (10652 posts) - - Show Bio
@Primmaster64:
Yes he was.But I heard Tony Daniel was a rookie Writer before Battle for the Cowl.Judd wininck was supposed to write it by then he got replace by Tony Daniel thats what I read somewhere
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#25 Posted by johnny_spam (2031 posts) - - Show Bio
@Primmaster64:  
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A younger fan asked if Jason Todd and Batman were going to work together. "You're definitely going to see them together," Morrison said. "They might not be working together. They might be punching each other."
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Morrison said that Jason Todd is "redeemable," that he's a good guy but "just messed up. He was a really good Robin. I think there's potential for redemption."
 
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/SDCC-2010-Grant-Morrison-100723.html
 
 
I still think in some ways Jim Starlin ruined him when he killed him and even Judd Winick to some degree making him act like a villain.  
#26 Posted by daredevil21134 (10652 posts) - - Show Bio

You might have a point there about Jim Starlin
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#27 Posted by Primmaster64 (21137 posts) - - Show Bio
@johnny spam: You're right...that pretty much means that Jason will appear in Batman Inc or the dark knight( too many Bats titles damn it)
 
@Unwritten Duck:
You did? Everyone did hate the red hair thing bro.
#28 Posted by daredevil21134 (10652 posts) - - Show Bio
@Primmaster64:
Hopefully the sales of his mini changes their minds and he gets his own series
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#29 Posted by johnny_spam (2031 posts) - - Show Bio
@daredevil21134: @daredevil21134 said:
" @Primmaster64: Hopefully the sales of his mini changes their minds and he gets his own series "
The numbers on this series have been terrible so I don't know about a series but Judd Winick expressed interest in using him again somewhere. 
 
Fun Fact Generation Lost was going to be about lost heroes like Connor Hawke and even Jason Todd but the JLI took the series.
#30 Posted by Primmaster64 (21137 posts) - - Show Bio
@johnny spam: I heard that they were good.
#31 Posted by The_Warlord (1777 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Jason is gonna break out and he's gonna look for answers. He's going to smoke the Batmen out and demand what the fudge is going on.

#32 Posted by daredevil21134 (10652 posts) - - Show Bio
@johnny spam said:
" @daredevil21134:  @daredevil21134 said:
" @Primmaster64: Hopefully the sales of his mini changes their minds and he gets his own series "
The numbers on this series have been terrible so I don't know about a series but Judd Winick expressed interest in using him again somewhere.  Fun Fact Generation Lost was going to be about lost heroes like Connor Hawke and even Jason Todd but the JLI took the series. "

I read that too.That would have been intereseting and their are a few titles DC has right now that have been selling  worse than Red Hood Lost Days
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#33 Posted by Primmaster64 (21137 posts) - - Show Bio
@daredevil21134: You told me they were ok
#34 Posted by daredevil21134 (10652 posts) - - Show Bio

Their not great but they aren't bad either Dc has titles going on that are not selling better than Red Hood Lost Days you should go check it out yourself and see what you think
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#35 Posted by Primmaster64 (21137 posts) - - Show Bio
@daredevil21134: Where?
 
@Unwritten Duck:
I see...I still hate the red hair and Jason should have kicked Flamingo's ass.
#36 Posted by daredevil21134 (10652 posts) - - Show Bio
@Unwritten Duck said:
" @Primmaster64: I didn't just hate the red hair. I hated the costume and I hated the story arc. I liked Jason's little sidekick (I forgot her name, I think it was scarlet), but that was the only thing I liked about that run. Like I said I thought the whole Youtube exploration that Jason tried to do on Dick and Damian was stupid. Dialogue was also below par of what I've come to expect from Morrison. Also one of my most appalled lines ever written in comics is in one of those issues. I don't have the full quote, but it's when Jason talks about getting zits from wearing his helmet and having a receding hairline.   What I liked about Battle for the Cowl Jason was how Jason seemed to go more over the edge than he ever had. It was almost like the news of Bruce's death was too much for him or too good to be true. What I thought was so awesome was how much of a bastard Jason had become. In Battle for the Cowl he almost kills several Iconic Batman figures. Also that final fight between Jason and Dick was made of awesome in my opinion. I just really enjoyed Battle for the Cowl. "

I thought the between fight Jason and Dick was bad Jason really got pounded it seem to one sided
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#37 Posted by Primmaster64 (21137 posts) - - Show Bio
@daredevil21134: Yeah they were
#38 Posted by daredevil21134 (10652 posts) - - Show Bio
@Primmaster64:
yup
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#39 Posted by daredevil21134 (10652 posts) - - Show Bio
@Unwritten Duck:
LOL LOL thats funny
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#40 Posted by Primmaster64 (21137 posts) - - Show Bio
@Unwritten Duck: Man I hated Flamingo
#41 Posted by Primmaster64 (21137 posts) - - Show Bio
@Unwritten Duck: XD
#42 Posted by Telcalipoca (957 posts) - - Show Bio

Jason wont be invited to the batmen inc. due to his willingness to kill .When he first appeared his actions were about doing a better job than bruce in the war against crime, pushing the line where bruce wouldnt go to make better results.In bftc driven to prove he would make a better batman than bruce  and in batman and robin i guess the same.He is obssesd with proving hes ways are the way things have to be done now .a batman inc may push him too break free and teach all the other batwannabes what a true protector must do to keep his city safe and maybe even take out those not suited for the war against crime.whatever jason does it wont be along side bruce or dick or anyother batman.

#43 Posted by daredevil21134 (10652 posts) - - Show Bio

hmmmmmmmmmmm
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#44 Posted by Telcalipoca (957 posts) - - Show Bio
@Unwritten Duck said:
" @Primmaster64:  I agree.  I don't see how anyone could have liked Flamingo. I have yet to encounter a convincing argument to make him in the slightest way likable.  "
i liked him 
 
he was strong, good fighter ,colorful and a total nutcase.he fits batman's insane arkham profile.and most of all he was a new type of colorful flamboyant villian for  a new batman.
#45 Posted by daredevil21134 (10652 posts) - - Show Bio

lol
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#46 Posted by Primmaster64 (21137 posts) - - Show Bio

ok

#47 Posted by daredevil21134 (10652 posts) - - Show Bio

I guess so.lol
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#48 Posted by Primmaster64 (21137 posts) - - Show Bio

I still wanna see Jason finally reconsile with Bruce and his family

#49 Edited by daredevil21134 (10652 posts) - - Show Bio

I like on his own at least for now,
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#50 Posted by Primmaster64 (21137 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok

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