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#151 Posted by daredevil21134 (12352 posts) - - Show Bio
@batman_is_god:
lol
#152 Posted by -Eclipse- (7588 posts) - - Show Bio
@daredevil21134: Whatever. You just need to stop telling people who are annoyed about Winnick butchering Talia to 'get over it'. I'm not even a big Talia fan, I just find this to be a disgusting piece of writing. Despite how 'awesome' you guys may think it is that Jason had sex with his dad's lover, it's sick. Originally I regretted not picking up Lost Days but, if this is how it ends... Now I'm not too bothered.
#153 Posted by daredevil21134 (12352 posts) - - Show Bio
@-Eclipse-:
Whatever Bruce is not even his real Father and I can say whatever I wanna so say I say get over it, it happen and you can't do anything about so go cry on somewhere else dude and if its that disgusting stop looking at damn its a real simple solution
#154 Posted by Primmaster64 (21138 posts) - - Show Bio

Jason was 15 or 16 when he died.

#155 Posted by daredevil21134 (12352 posts) - - Show Bio
@Primmaster64:
How long do you think Bruce new Jason because his time as Robin was very short
#156 Posted by The_Martian (36984 posts) - - Show Bio
@Zoom said:
"  I hate hate HATE DC's need to age their young characters without aging the other characters resulting in heroes looking the same age as their former sidekicks fathers that look like they're younger than their sons. "
This is my problem with any character growing up in any title.
#157 Posted by Primmaster64 (21138 posts) - - Show Bio
@daredevil21134: You can tell.
#158 Posted by daredevil21134 (12352 posts) - - Show Bio

lol

#159 Posted by -Eclipse- (7588 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nobody: Good thing we have Franklin Richards, then. Luke and Jessica's kid will probably be older than him in a few years, mark my words :P 
 
@daredevil21134: O__o 
 
Do you see me crying? Damn, I usually try to avoid bringing this into conversation on the Vine but how old ARE you?
#160 Edited by daredevil21134 (12352 posts) - - Show Bio
@-Eclipse-:
Actually I can't see you at all but you sure could fool me if your not Thats none of your bussiness i 'm done with you anyways you can think or say what you want.But no matter how many comments you post it won't change what happened  so good look pal.
#161 Posted by Primmaster64 (21138 posts) - - Show Bio
@-Eclipse-: Calm down dude. :) Invincible!!!
#162 Posted by daredevil21134 (12352 posts) - - Show Bio
@Primmaster64:
Marc Grayson Rules
#163 Posted by Primmaster64 (21138 posts) - - Show Bio
@daredevil21134: Oh Yeah
#164 Posted by daredevil21134 (12352 posts) - - Show Bio
@Primmaster64:
he is cool
#165 Posted by Primmaster64 (21138 posts) - - Show Bio
@daredevil21134: Yep
#166 Posted by daredevil21134 (12352 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes he is
#167 Posted by Technoman (133 posts) - - Show Bio
Knew
#168 Posted by daredevil21134 (12352 posts) - - Show Bio

lol
#169 Edited by Meinos Kaen (39 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmm... Well, this is not that shocking and quite explainable, and it also shows one thing: Judd Winick actually reads other writers' work and tries to get along with their storylines, unlike some other people (COUGHMORRISONCOUGH).
Talia says that her father is dead and that Batman is to blame, ergo, this happens right after Batman: Death and the Maidens, where 1.Talia was brainwashed by Nissa who killed/resurrected her over and over and over; 2.Talia plainly states that Bruce is no longer her beloved and that it's both her and her sister's enemy.
 
It may appear sick to some because of the father/son/father's lover relationship between Bats, Talia and Jason, but it's understandable and perfectly explainable, alias Talia wants Jason to hit Batman where it hurts and pushes him in the right direction, using all the edges she knows she has over a then 18/19 years old boy who has been depending on her for basically everything in the last years. It also ties in with DeathATM and shows that just like she said, be it for brainwashing or anything else, Talia doesn't care squat about Bruce anymore. Kudos to Winick for another good job done. Even in sex, he manages to surprise me.

#170 Posted by daredevil21134 (12352 posts) - - Show Bio
@Meinos Kaen:
Damn I did not know that.Thanks for the info gets I gotta read Death and Maidens,Go Winick
#171 Posted by junkmasterzero (257 posts) - - Show Bio
@Meinos Kaen: Good call.
#172 Posted by daredevil21134 (12352 posts) - - Show Bio
@junkmasterzero:
Yes Very
#173 Posted by Primmaster64 (21138 posts) - - Show Bio
@Meinos Kaen: I see
#174 Posted by daredevil21134 (12352 posts) - - Show Bio

yeah
#175 Posted by Benuben (230 posts) - - Show Bio
@Zoom:
Did you heard about LAZARUS PIT?
#176 Posted by daredevil21134 (12352 posts) - - Show Bio

???
#177 Posted by primepower53 (5686 posts) - - Show Bio
@Jor-el Zod said:
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I new it was no mother son relationship!

 
"

After seeing this, all I could say was no. Just no.
#178 Posted by daredevil21134 (12352 posts) - - Show Bio

lol
#179 Posted by Jor-el Zod (136 posts) - - Show Bio
@daredevil21134:
it was just revenge sex, every one is blown this thing out of proportion. no love just anger and sex.
#180 Posted by daredevil21134 (12352 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jor-el Zod said:

" @daredevil21134: it was just revenge sex, every one is blown this thing out of proportion. no love just anger and sex. "


agreed

#181 Posted by saiyan_earthling (5479 posts) - - Show Bio
@daredevil21134 said:
"

@Jor-el Zod said:

" @daredevil21134: it was just revenge sex, every one is blown this thing out of proportion. no love just anger and sex. "


agreed

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#182 Posted by daredevil21134 (12352 posts) - - Show Bio
@saiyan_earthling:
thanks
#183 Posted by saiyan_earthling (5479 posts) - - Show Bio
@daredevil21134: Don't mention it =)
#184 Edited by entropy_aegis (15472 posts) - - Show Bio
@Meinos Kaen said:

"Hmm... Well, this is not that shocking and quite explainable, and it also shows one thing: Judd Winick actually reads other writers' work and tries to get along with their storylines, unlike some other people (COUGHMORRISONCOUGH). Talia says that her father is dead and that Batman is to blame, ergo, this happens right after Batman: Death and the Maidens, where 1.Talia was brainwashed by Nissa who killed/resurrected her over and over and over; 2.Talia plainly states that Bruce is no longer her beloved and that it's both her and her sister's enemy.  It may appear sick to some because of the father/son/father's lover relationship between Bats, Talia and Jason, but it's understandable and perfectly explainable, alias Talia wants Jason to hit Batman where it hurts and pushes him in the right direction, using all the edges she knows she has over a then 18/19 years old boy who has been depending on her for basically everything in the last years. It also ties in with DeathATM and shows that just like she said, be it for brainwashing or anything else, Talia doesn't care squat about Bruce anymore. Kudos to Winick for another good job done. Even in sex, he manages to surprise me. "


@Meinos Kaen:
You're coughing on morrison when you should be hating on winnick, and no its not explainable,yeah the fact he reads other peoples work and still cant mantain continuity makes him worse than an ignorant writer.There is only one major problem with your awesome theory Nyssa happened after HUSH this happened before HUSH .this story is based on events which happened in the past not what is happeneing in the present,talia may not care about bruce now(doubtful) but she did in hush where she kissed him and called him "beloved" multiple times,she even sold lexcorp property to him,WININCK SUCKS
#185 Posted by entropy_aegis (15472 posts) - - Show Bio

A question for winick defenders,why was the secret society hunting jason in "under the red hood"? after all talia was a member of the society and "red hood the lost days" implies that talia knew about him becoming the red hood. also during winicks run on outsiders jason broke in to society headquarters and spied upon them.FAIL upon FAIL.

#186 Edited by daredevil21134 (12352 posts) - - Show Bio
@entropy_aegis:
Guess what.Jason Todd fans don't care.We love Winick your just wasting your time.theres lots of other writers and charcter you can hate on
#187 Posted by Primmaster64 (21138 posts) - - Show Bio
@entropy_aegis: Take it easy bro.
#188 Edited by entropy_aegis (15472 posts) - - Show Bio
@daredevil21134 said:

"@entropy_aegis: Guess what.Jason Todd fans don't care.We love Winick your just wasting your time.theres lots of other writers and charcter you can hate on "


nice you didnt even bother adressing my points.and ofcourse jason todd fans dont care when morisson gives him red hair they go up in arms without even realising what his intentions were,when winick twists continuity of 3 storylines just to do what   ?show a sex scene they are all praises .yes lots of writers ignore continuity  and they also get the heat for it,all i see here is praise for winick for writing such a "good story" and mind you he ignored continuity just throw an onpanel sex scene no writer to my knowledge has ever done that,yeah wininck should stay as far as he could from batman characters,he can his precious jason for all i care.
#189 Posted by Primmaster64 (21138 posts) - - Show Bio

never ending battle....*sigh*

#190 Posted by saiyan_earthling (5479 posts) - - Show Bio

.....

#191 Posted by daredevil21134 (12352 posts) - - Show Bio
@entropy_aegis said:
"@daredevil21134 said:

"@entropy_aegis: Guess what.Jason Todd fans don't care.We love Winick your just wasting your time.theres lots of other writers and charcter you can hate on "

nice you didnt even bother adressing my points.and ofcourse jason todd fans dont care when morisson gives him red hair they go up in arms without even realising what his intentions were,when winick twists continuity of 3 storylines just to do what   ?show a sex scene they are all praises .yes lots of writers ignore continuity  and they also get the heat for it,all i see here is praise for winick for writing such a "good story" and mind you he ignored continuity just throw an onpanel sex scene no writer to my knowledge has ever done that,yeah wininck should stay as far as he could from batman characters,he can his precious jason for all i care. "

Wasting time again.

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