Does he have the right to kill joker?

#1 Posted by Imperius_Rex (452 posts) - - Show Bio

I know he's batmans arch nemesis, I always hoped that's how it would end but Bruce probably won't ever kill him. If given the opportunity should Jason Todd be the one to kill the joker? Not any time soon, but one day... Basically should he be given sweet revenge. A life for a life.

#2 Posted by BlackWind (4007 posts) - - Show Bio

If any random civilian shot Joker dead, I doubt the police would mind, because they should have done it years ago.

"Whoops, my gun slipped!"

#3 Posted by Loki9876 (2981 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlackWind: I love your avatar JIM cover.

#4 Posted by redhoodnet (153 posts) - - Show Bio

I hope that is the end to DotF. It would be great to see him polish off the Joker. And I think that if he did he would become more of a sympathetic figure to the rest of the Bat Family.

#5 Posted by ULTRAstarkiller (4913 posts) - - Show Bio

@Imperius_Rex: U know u just got me thinkin y wont the cops kill him i mean there is a death sentence

#6 Posted by COBRAMORPH (1405 posts) - - Show Bio

Should the Joker be killed? as a person, yes, & while Jason does have the most right to kill him, maybe followed by Barbara, there are a lot of victims of Joker that also do have that right.

However, if the Joker ever is killed, or briefly killed, since the black Lanterns will probly be used again some day, I doubt anyone wants him with that kind of power.

In fact, the fear of another Blackest Night should be the reason given for why heros never kill their villains, & in fact also for them to try to NOT have their villains harmed. Maybe even for the villains to not to want to kill their heroes either.

#7 Posted by Imperius_Rex (452 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah I see what you mean. Bats needs to get his own damn jail cells custom for each of his high profile criminals because arkham is not working. Keep the guy sedated. Or in an induced coma.

#8 Posted by SupremeHyperion (1384 posts) - - Show Bio

Kill him, he should have been dead a long time ago. It's sort of funny how Batman is against killing but in not killing Joker (who wouldn't be missed and deserves death) has played the part in thousands of innocent lives being taken (by said joker...hell, every batman villain for that matter). It makes no sense and kill him already.

#9 Posted by Nathaniel_Christopher (1484 posts) - - Show Bio

Not anymore than any other victim of the Joker (To be clear i'm saying that Jason isn't anymore special than any other person the Joker's harmed.)

Exactly why it gets to the point where you really have to wonder how much Batman himself is responsible for the lives the Joker keeps taking. The first time he breaks out of Arkham you can call it a fluke. Batman puts him back in. The next time you can say the guards were crooked. Batman puts him back in. The next time you can say the prison alarm system malfunctioned. Batman puts him back in. And so on. At one point does he stop putting Joker in and honestly believe that the maniac won't get out again like he has dozens of other times? (And if I remember correctly there's a story where Joker describes Arkham as a sort of resting place for him between crimes.)

Though to be honest, I don't understand how a bunch of random cops haven't emptied entire magazines into the Joker's head before.

#10 Posted by Smart_Dork_Dude (2518 posts) - - Show Bio

@redhoodnet said:

I hope that is the end to DotF. It would be great to see him polish off the Joker. And I think that if he did he would become more of a sympathetic figure to the rest of the Bat Family.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

#11 Edited by 2ndKentucky (23 posts) - - Show Bio

@ULTRAstarkiller: The cops rarely get a chance to take a shot during an action and whenever they do, he pulls the gas or hostages or some psychology junk on the cops to keep them from pulling the trigger. And Court is out of the question. The Joker would pull the insanity plea so fast, it would be a waste of money to even bring him to the courtroom with the intention of getting the death penalty.

I would like to see Jason kill the Joker, with a crowbar. (I believe it has happened before, minus the Joker's death). But in actuality I want to see Batgirl take a shot at the Joker, she definitely deserves a chance.

A fun twist to this Death of the Family story line (which I am loving, by the way) would be for the whole Bat Family disregarding Batman's orders and suggestions and teaming up to take the clown down. With the tension between Batman and the rest at this point in the past couple of issues, I can see this to be a viable branch to the crossover. This would also give a plethora of material for bringing the family back together under the wing (pun intended) of the one man they all disobeyed. Just an idea going around in my head.

#12 Posted by JasonTodd13 (423 posts) - - Show Bio

Jason has every right to kill the Joker, the Joker murdered him and enjoyed beating Jason with a crowbar. But ultimately, its not about vengeance for Jason, it was about getting avenged which Batman failed to do so.

#13 Posted by daredevil21134 (9055 posts) - - Show Bio

@SupremeHyperion said:

Kill him, he should have been dead a long time ago. It's sort of funny how Batman is against killing but in not killing Joker (who wouldn't be missed and deserves death) has played the part in thousands of innocent lives being taken (by said joker...hell, every batman villain for that matter). It makes no sense and kill him already.

Agreed

#14 Posted by consolemaster001 (4472 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes. If batman can’t do it jason will

#15 Posted by 202122 (1145 posts) - - Show Bio

Even Tim Drake agrees that Jason's there to do what needs doing

#16 Edited by Guardiandevil83 (4480 posts) - - Show Bio

The first small animal he's ever kiled has that right.

#17 Posted by chasereis (794 posts) - - Show Bio

@Imperius_Rex: Dont see that happening. Why is arkham populated by dirty cop guards and knee jerk liberals that are so soft and fluffy as doctors that they are afraid hurting Mr Joker's feelings or something. Were this real life the Joker would have escaped the first time in body bag , case closed. One of the blessedly few things I hate about Batman titles. Joker should have sentenced to death or shot by a sniper cop in the head on a stakeout. "Whoops, commish, finger slipped", Gordon would be like "ok you're suspended with full pay for the rest of the year. I hope you will learn you lesson in Tahiti, you bad bad cop." Sorry rant...my bad.

#18 Posted by Differentology (33 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes and the name of the article should be "An Eye for an Eye".

#19 Posted by BlackWind (4007 posts) - - Show Bio

@chasereis said:

@Imperius_Rex: Dont see that happening. Why is arkham populated by dirty cop guards and knee jerk liberals that are so soft and fluffy as doctors that they are afraid hurting Mr Joker's feelings or something. Were this real life the Joker would have escaped the first time in body bag , case closed. One of the blessedly few things I hate about Batman titles. Joker should have sentenced to death or shot by a sniper cop in the head on a stakeout. "Whoops, commish, finger slipped", Gordon would be like "ok you're suspended with full pay for the rest of the year. I hope you will learn you lesson in Tahiti, you bad bad cop." Sorry rant...my bad.

I'd read that comic.

#20 Posted by The Stegman (20722 posts) - - Show Bio
@202122 said:

Even Tim Drake agrees that Jason's there to do what needs doing

I think pretty much all of the Bat family except Batman, and maybe Dick agrees, heck Batgirl almost did it. 
#21 Posted by chasereis (794 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlackWind: It be damned good wouldnt it? Personally I would like bats to either never catching Joker or having Joker martyred to others or copycats or something more reasonable. No human being could have pulled what Mister J pulled and lived. But hey, thats comics right?

#22 Posted by Crash_Recovery (850 posts) - - Show Bio

@Imperius_Rex: If he killed the Joker to prevent the immediate death of someone else that's one thing.

If he just hunts down and kills the Joker...that's murder, my friend, comic or not.

#23 Posted by Billy Batson (56850 posts) - - Show Bio

Who doesn't?
BB

#24 Posted by Imperius_Rex (452 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think Jason has a problem with that. He'd murder joker if the plot demanded so.

#25 Posted by JamesKM716 (1992 posts) - - Show Bio

Jason's the one member of the family with the guts to kill the Joker.

Actually scratch that, didn't Dick kill Joker in one comic? they revived him later, but still.

Anywho, Jason killing Joker would be... fitting.

#26 Posted by DeathpooltheT1000 (9503 posts) - - Show Bio

I am the only person that belives that The Joker should kill the Joker?

#27 Posted by GrandSymbiote94 (11353 posts) - - Show Bio

Who doesn't?

#28 Posted by TheHulk (702 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk think it would be completely justified if Joker did something that would kill thousands of people, like 9/11.

#29 Edited by SpideyIvyDaredevilFan26 (4803 posts) - - Show Bio

@Imperius_Rex said:

I know he's batmans arch nemesis, I always hoped that's how it would end but Bruce probably won't ever kill him. If given the opportunity should Jason Todd be the one to kill the joker? Not any time soon, but one day... Basically should he be given sweet revenge. A life for a life.

Absolutley. A life for a life. And if Batman is too selfish too take a life of a mass murderer who is responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocents, than Red Hood needs to take charge.

#30 Edited by JonSmith (3793 posts) - - Show Bio

I say when Joker pops up again, Red Hood decides no more, hunts him down, and puts a bullet in his head. No complicated traps, no inner turmoil, no disputes about the morality of it. Jason just hunts him down, and puts a bullet in his brain. An unceremonious end, but one fitting for someone as evil as the Joker.

Though people would hate it so much that Joker would be brought back somehow in a few issues.

#31 Posted by SpideyIvyDaredevilFan26 (4803 posts) - - Show Bio

@JonSmith:

Completely agreed

#32 Posted by consolemaster001 (4472 posts) - - Show Bio

@Differentology said:

Yes and the name of the article should be "An Eye for an Eye".

Or "I killed you but you killed me first"

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