Interview: James Robinson Talks EARTH 2, Death of Lois Lane and More

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If you are a frequent listener of the Comic Vine podcast then you may recall that we promised you DC writer James Robinson's appearance on our show this past Friday. If you listened to our latest podcast, however, you probably noticed his absence. Okay, funny story. James came into the office, sat down and got all ready to take some of your questions. Now, usually, James receives a lot of questions from fans and comic book readers wanting to gain some insight into the industry; but this week we saw a huge increase in the number of questions and many of them had to do with the death of EARTH 2 Lois Lane, announced earlier that day by DC Editor Pat McCallum.

Clearly, the death of one of the most iconic female characters at DC Comics is sort of big news, so when we asked James about it he wasn't quite sure how much he could reveal. In the end it was best for both parties to scrap the first podcast and to re-record on Monday morning, after the storm had quieted down and James had a better idea of how much he could discuss. The good news? We were able to gain a lot more insight and information regarding the launch of EARTH 2 starting this May the second time around than we had initially. So, without further ado, we are happy to present a special edition of the Comic Vine podcast where James Robinson answers all of your user submitted questions. We hope that he is able to bring some light to the recent controversy and quell the nervous fears of many Lois Lane fans.

Here is a link to the latest Comic Vine podcast. Enjoy!

#1 Posted by DarthShap (875 posts) - - Show Bio

The best thing about this is that apparentlyit will be done off-screen and without any build-up to it, like Lian's death in his greatest masterpiece, Cry for Justice. :D

#2 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (33444 posts) - - Show Bio

I got name checked in this, noice!!

#3 Posted by hectorsquall (1137 posts) - - Show Bio
THIS is what really happened!
#4 Edited by BlackArmor (6141 posts) - - Show Bio

^^ LOL

#5 Posted by ArturoCalaKayVee (11621 posts) - - Show Bio

@hectorsquall said:

THIS is what really happened!

HAHAHAHAHAHAH

#6 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (33444 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't understand why people moan about deaths in different dimension storys

#7 Posted by G-Man (34236 posts) - - Show Bio

And I don't understand why people complain when the book (or even preview pages) haven't been released yet.

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#8 Posted by NightFang (10068 posts) - - Show Bio

@ArturoCalaKayVee said:

@hectorsquall said:

THIS is what really happened!

HAHAHAHAHAHAH

It not Sup's than Maxima.

#9 Posted by DarthShap (875 posts) - - Show Bio

@G-Man said:

And I don't understand why people complain when the book (or even preview pages) haven't been released yet.

Let's just say I loved his Starman run but I am still mad at him for disappointing me so much in Cry for Justice.

Also, if you are going to have a comment section to your news, I am guessing you expect two reactions. Either "Yeah, great news!" or "No! Bad news!"

I was really excited by Robinson back to his Earth-2-verse roots (Starman of course) but this is not Earth-2 and I feel he is back to his bad habit of killing close ones to add more depth, something he did A LOT in Cry for Justice.

@spiderbat87 said:

I don't understand why people moan about deaths in different dimension storys

Well, Earth-2 Lois Lane is not anybody.

#10 Posted by KainScion (2973 posts) - - Show Bio

please let her be dead. its ridiculous with how much sh!t she gets away with just because her husband/whatever is superman.

#11 Posted by Wowlock (218 posts) - - Show Bio

All I hear from Lois Lane being dead is '' Yay , Let the Superman hook-up game begin ! ''

Remember when Marvel split up Spiderman and Mary Jane ?

Sure this is an Alternate world but I still think they shouldn't remake the whole aspect of Earth 2 fans know and love. They could've just use a totally NEW earth but from what I see, DC just using the popularity of the name Earth 2 and instead of trying something unique , they use some new clothes.

Until I see the JSA and the real characters we actually care about in Earth-2 , I will keep myself from being hyped.

#12 Posted by G-Man (34236 posts) - - Show Bio

@DarthShap: I'm referring to the twitter responses I've seen over all this. A lot of anger when pretty much nothing has been seen or said about the book. There's nothing wrong with being skeptical or concerned but I don't think people should flat out condemn a book when we have no idea how it'll be. Wait until reading and then make a judgment.

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#13 Posted by DarthShap (875 posts) - - Show Bio

@G-Man said:

@DarthShap: I'm referring to the twitter responses I've seen over all this. A lot of anger when pretty much nothing has been seen or said about the book. There's nothing wrong with being skeptical or concerned but I don't think people should flat out condemn a book when we have no idea how it'll be. Wait until reading and then make a judgment.

True but as you know, Earth-2 Lois was a beloved character. The book might turn out good but you really cannot blame the longtime fans for being angry upon learning that one of their favorite characters is being killed off panel and that they might never get a new story about her.

#14 Posted by hectorsquall (1137 posts) - - Show Bio

@DarthShap: Well, technically that's not really the old Earth-2 Lois that we loved because she died during Infinite Crisis.

This is an all-new Earth-2 with all-new characters, that souldn't even be called Earth-2!

@Wowlock said:

They could've just use a totally NEW earth but from what I see, DC just using the popularity of the name Earth 2 and instead of trying something unique , they use some new clothes.

#15 Edited by feargalr (1163 posts) - - Show Bio

Personally I'm really excited for this, I've never read any Earth 2 stuff ever and I love Marvels ultimate universe just cos it's something different, where characters can die, things can change and there are consequences, and I hope that Earth 2 will incorporate some of that, cos like some peeps are saying there would be no point in doing earth 2 if it were the same as Earth 'whatever The New 52 world is'.

Also loving me some interview podcast, it's nice that they can just kinda talk, go on tangents and not really have the time constraints that a normal podcast has where it's like gotta talk about x amount comics, then talk about y number of news items and then answer z questions etc Awesome.

#16 Posted by KidSupreme (829 posts) - - Show Bio

@hectorsquall said:

THIS is what really happened!

LoL thats tooo funny :D

#17 Posted by DarthShap (875 posts) - - Show Bio

@hectorsquall said:

@DarthShap: Well, technically that's not really the old Earth-2 Lois that we loved because she died during Infinite Crisis.

This is an all-new Earth-2 with all-new characters, that souldn't even be called Earth-2!

@Wowlock said:

They could've just use a totally NEW earth but from what I see, DC just using the popularity of the name Earth 2 and instead of trying something unique , they use some new clothes.

That is true but that is what you get (the angry reaction) when you call it Earth-2 and have all these similarities to the original one (Huntress, Power Girl, Jay Garrick, Al Pratt, Alan Scott). Had DC called it Earth-34 and gave the synopsis differently: "a completely new earth where Lois Lane is dead", there would be no backlash. Kingdom Come has a very similar premise and I am really sure nobody was angry about it because from the get-go, they explained it was not in continuity. Do not go shouting how great it is that you killed Earth-2 Lois and expect people to be happy about it.

#18 Posted by The_MVPs (84694 posts) - - Show Bio

@DarthShap said:

The best thing about this is that apparentlyit will be done off-screen and without any build-up to it, like Lian's death in his greatest masterpiece, Cry for Justice. :D

qft

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#19 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (33444 posts) - - Show Bio

some people need to grow up

#20 Posted by haydenclaireheroes (9064 posts) - - Show Bio

I am defenitely picking up Earth 2. It seems like we are going to get a new spin on a lot of different characters. This is going to be the Ultimate Universe of Dc Comics

#21 Posted by dru_zod2501 (27 posts) - - Show Bio

@KainScion said:

please let her be dead. its ridiculous with how much sh!t she gets away with just because her husband/whatever is superman.

tru dat!

#22 Posted by Miss_Garrick (1757 posts) - - Show Bio

@hectorsquall: I approve!

#23 Posted by Marssolesurvivor (11 posts) - - Show Bio

@hectorsquall said:

THIS is what really happened!

I literally almost pissed myself looking at this...too funny!

#24 Posted by thephantomstranger (129 posts) - - Show Bio

@spiderbat87 said:

I don't understand why people moan about deaths in different dimension storys

I don't understand why people moan about the deaths of any fictional character...

Or for that matter why people care about fictional characters after they finish reading.

#25 Posted by The Impersonator (5483 posts) - - Show Bio

@ArturoCalaKayVee said:

@hectorsquall said:

THIS is what really happened!

HAHAHAHAHAHAH

#26 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio

I hope Smallville-universe Lois dies in the comics. Nyahahahaha!

#27 Posted by davidgrantlloyd (347 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm definitely interested. I'd like to see Lex or Zod maybe kill Lois in a brutal/ dramatic way ... maybe not a bloodbath but dramatic nonetheless. I'm just hoping Supes doesn't become a mopey wuss as a result of her death ... that would be kinda lame.

#28 Posted by hectorsquall (1137 posts) - - Show Bio
#29 Posted by RedheadedAtrocitus (6885 posts) - - Show Bio

I'll have to check this out, because I'm still stunned by the news too.

#30 Posted by t1774ny (19 posts) - - Show Bio

@hectorsquall: OH WOW haahahahah where did you find those!?

#31 Posted by hectorsquall (1137 posts) - - Show Bio
#32 Posted by GundamHeavyarms (701 posts) - - Show Bio

Well personally, Im fine with it. Some are saying that its sexist for lois to be dead and for wonder woman to be the last amazon, but they dont really do much with lois or the other amazons, besides its not like robinson wants to kill off all the women, just them.

#33 Edited by DarthShap (875 posts) - - Show Bio

@GundamHeavyarms said:

Well personally, Im fine with it. Some are saying that its sexist for lois to be dead and for wonder woman to be the last amazon, but they dont really do much with lois or the other amazons, besides its not like robinson wants to kill off all the women, just them.

Let's just say that this is a lot of Women In Refrigerators. Of course, I am not saying that Robinson is misogynistic, I do not know him personally and he sounds like a good guy. The thing is, after all the criticism he got for his treatment of the Birds of Prey, implying that Huntress and Lady Blackhawk had a threesome with Hal Jordan so that he may look good and the many, many gratuitous deaths of Cry for Justice, only there to raise the stakes so that the protagonists could yell JUSTICE!, you would think that he would be more careful now.

WIR is not about calling other writers misogynists, it is about bad habits writers tend to have towards female characters. James Robinson just does not seem to learn from his mistakes.

#34 Posted by hectorsquall (1137 posts) - - Show Bio

@DarthShap said:

Let's just say that this is a lot of Women In Refrigerators.

What James Robinson must be thinking.
#35 Posted by cagedleo730 (231 posts) - - Show Bio

James Robinson has accepted the blame for Cry for Justice being bad. The Dwayne McDuffie firing changed some of his plans. He also didn't want to kill Lian. That was an editorial decision to set up Green Arrow and Arsenal's future direction.

#36 Posted by DarthShap (875 posts) - - Show Bio

@cagedleo730 said:

James Robinson has accepted the blame for Cry for Justice being bad. The Dwayne McDuffie firing changed some of his plans. He also didn't want to kill Lian. That was an editorial decision to set up Green Arrow and Arsenal's future direction.

If your editor asks you to kill someone, the least you can do is have some build-up to it and some follow-up to it, not deal with it in one page like that. In Cry for Justice, the next page was an ass shot of Starfire. Keeping it classy, James Robinson.

And Lian was not the only victim. As I said, Robinson just kept on killing characters so that the protagonists could scream JUSTICE! like idiots.

And the worst thing in all of this is that apparently, he is doing it again. It is one thing to accept the blame but then why keep the same formula AND add even more WIR to it?

#37 Posted by Mbecks14 (2068 posts) - - Show Bio

@DarthShap said:

The best thing about this is that apparentlyit will be done off-screen and without any build-up to it, like Lian's death in his greatest masterpiece, Cry for Justice. :D

are you using the word masterpiece ironically?

#38 Posted by DarthShap (875 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mbecks14 said:

@DarthShap said:

The best thing about this is that apparentlyit will be done off-screen and without any build-up to it, like Lian's death in his greatest masterpiece, Cry for Justice. :D

are you using the word masterpiece ironically?

Again, right after Lian's body is found by Oliver, we get a Starfire ass shot on the very next page.

No I was just awful. Awful dialogue, awful story with a nonsensical plan by Prometheus, countless useless deaths without any build-up or follow-up, characters acting out of character constantly ("I'm Ray Palmer, welcome to pain!" comes to mind), the fight scene was ridiculous, the ending was rushed...

And OK, Robinson may not be misogynistic but I can understand where the critics come from: Lian is killed, Huntress and Lady Blackhawk have a threesome with Hal because he is suuuuch a stud, Supergirl starts crying when Hal Jordan asks her a question and Black Canary dissolves the League...because she could not handle the job without her husband besides her.

#39 Posted by fotocub (14 posts) - - Show Bio

@DarthShap: To be fair, Hal Jordan SAID he had a threesome with Huntress and Lady Blackhawk. I've always read that scene as Hal making up a locker room-esque story for Ollie's benefit. It's offensive, but it was meant to be, to illustrate something about Hal's personality when he's with his best friend sans Dinah's influence.

#40 Edited by DarthShap (875 posts) - - Show Bio

@fotocub said:

@DarthShap: To be fair, Hal Jordan SAID he had a threesome with Huntress and Lady Blackhawk. I've always read that scene as Hal making up a locker room-esque story for Ollie's benefit. It's offensive, but it was meant to be, to illustrate something about Hal's personality when he's with his best friend sans Dinah's influence.

Except Hal Jordan was not the one saying it. I do not know how you "read that scene" but that is just not what happened. ^^

Here is a link to to a CBR article with the page in question;

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2009/08/06/sexism-in-cry-for-justice-2/

#41 Posted by Mbecks14 (2068 posts) - - Show Bio

@DarthShap: ok PHEWW! Just checking! I liked the art but otherwise the entire story was just straight terrible. Leaguers were completely uncharacteristic and I think fundamentally Robinson doesn't understand what Justice is. It should've been called Cry for Vengence. Or nothing at all...

#42 Posted by Dru_zod (213 posts) - - Show Bio

@hectorsquall: LLLLLLLLoooooooooooooooooooooooooooolllllllllllllll

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