Personally I say no. The man does what he has to do and does what he believes is in everyone's best interest. I don't know what all the hateration is about. Enlighten me.
Is Iron Man a douchebag?
he took it into his own hands to control what should and cannot be controlled. The world went through something like that before and it bite everyone in the ass so why do it again.
personally i believe everyone has the right to be and do what they want. since karma does exist i belive if a person decides to be evil their actions will be dealt with in time
"he took it into his own hands to control what should and cannot be controlled. The world went through something like that before and it bite everyone in the ass so why do it again.
what are you referring to?
The CW he tried to be well god and he lost well not really but in my mind he lost the will of a friend and his friends as a whole see him in a different way as a pantywaist who thinks his money will save his ass everytime he gets in trouble
"Boken says:"he got the act passed haveing spidey reviel his secret identity screwing up spideys life. now he's a fugitive. how is he not a douche bag."
he did that because he thought it was the right thing"
yeah, in his mind it was the right thing and sometimes thing don't play out exactly how you think them out in your mind.
Spider-Man didn't have to reveal his identity. He made a decision, Iron Man would've made him if he didn't want to, Spider-Man could have easily said No Tony I can't do it.
ok hold on
Cryo: i never said that in any way i said what he thought was right wasnt well this isnt going to sound smart but, it wasnt thought through. if he thought it was right he should have thought that alot of people were gonna get hurt or die from what he was going to do.
D: i never said Spidy wasny a man i said he made his decision
"ok hold on Cryo: i never said that in any way i said what he thought was right wasnt well this isnt going to sound smart but, it wasnt thought through. if he thought it was right he should have thought that alot of people were gonna get hurt or die from what he was going to do. D: i never said Spidy wasny a man i said he made his decision"
lol sorry if you thought I meant you DC, I meant Boken.
I think he's a great character. He's one of my favorite characters. Read Matt Fraction's stuff and you'll see what I mean. I really like Iron Man a lot and he gets such a negative rep just because of what happened during Civil War.
But still, even during Civil War, I sympathysed with Tony Stark's cause. It isn't like he is some sort of greedy money hungry dickface. Tony has feelings and he cares for the wellbeing of humanity. Calling him a douchebag, even during Civil War, is simply unjust.
I actually think what he did in civil war was for the betterment of supes
Now that laws were passedwhat do they have to lose
And they are not vigilantes you cant be a superhero and break vigilante laws
But he did slip up moral wise Killig Caps
But Marv Ultimate Alliance 2 will explain different view points
For instance this could help banner and other i could name some bad things but Iron Man is the Pwn King so be careful
oh yeah and you know the writers are going somewhere like with the addiction
He has the most dynamic char in comics i think
But he did slip up And he rules for it
Honestly Spiderman needs to learn a lesson and smack some people again he is stronger now he should be lifting 30 tons according when he gets in his late twenties read that in the first series of spidey
Ironman has saved the universe and you faves backside too many times to count
Namely mine the punisher
Yeah he was the first flawed hero O'Ray J i like him for that iron man can be pushed to kill and is like batman but less sober and dectective see batman is a dectective with gadgets and ironman a gadget with detective skills
He would will punisher and went toe to toe with the greats all of them he is a marvel powerhouse a force to be reckoned with
hey buddy O'Ray J spidey is a powerhouse too becuase he is coming too is character
"His actions during the Civil War would have me agree with you though his reacent downfall has changed my opinion, but over all he is just a flawed man trying to do the best he can, just like everyone elce. "
I totally agree with you.
his actions were persuaded by Reed, Pym, and Spider-Woman, and it was later revealed
they were Skrulls. he was nowhere near alone in any of it, and not in supporters either.
Steve's death was orchestrated by the Red Skull. its something that was going to get
done eitherway, but Skull chose the moment of Steves arrest because it would be
putting him at his lowest. Tony feels entirely responsible for everything and then some.
he went the length of destroying everything he had left, and literally his own mind.
douche? no. a man that made a mistake and got fooled by the best.
Much like Cyclops, Tony Stark came into writers that intentionally made you try to dislike him. Neither character was originally depicted so much of a …well…douche. In fact, originally Scott Summers and Tony were quite likable men at one time in the comics. Seems so long ago now. I cannot say why they did what they did to Iron Man, the original concept was redeeming a weapons manufacturer, but I always felt that writers sacrificed Cyclops at the expense of making Wolverine look “cooler” in the eyes of the young and impressionably rebellious anti-hero teens.
Even when he cloned Thor and used his clone as a weapon, but let the world think the murdering Thor-Clone was the REAL Thor? Then, when Thor returned...actually attacked and threatened him?
Even when he paid a super villain (Titanium Man) to attack him publicly to garner sympathy for his Regestration policy?
Even when he put numerious supervillains into positions of power?
Even when he had a secret prison built - packed full of captured but uncharged heroes and villains - and when it was attacked by Blastarr...as opposed to launching a rescue mission to save the people (some of who were heroes), simply let the guards leave and closed the Negative Zone gate, turning the population of the prison over to Blastarr?
Think about it. There are a LOT of dead and mutilated heroes out there, who are dead because of Tonys stupid policies. He did indeed have the best intentions...but he and Reed Richards arrogance backfired and blew up in their faces. Norman Osborn is in power right now because Tony created the system...then had no checks and balences in place to run it without their direct control, which implies that he expected to sit in the big chair forever.
A 'douchebag"? No. An arrogant, shortsighted fool? Yes indeed. It doesn't matter if he had good intentions. Tony Stark was a fool for thinking that he and Reed alone could solve the worlds problems. He's currently in a bad situation, but he put himself there through his own bad decisions.
But all in all, that's less HIS fault, and more failure to understand the character. Under a better writer, Tony Stark wouldn't have tried this stupid Regestration.
1. Reed and Pym (actually Skrulls)
2. dont remember
3. Skrulls and supervillians.
4. Reed and Pym (actually Skrulls)
Tony Stark was not the master of reality, much less the world nor anything else.
He was a spokesperson. He was no more evidently to blame then the President is for the actions
of everyone in the country nor its institutions. To top that off he was being influenced (again, Skrull Invasion 101)
All he did was back what he believed was right, and the majority of the heroes backed him.
In the end him and Steve stood, and Steve looked around and realized Tony was in fact right.
The only intent was to minimize collateral damage to civilians, and Tony didnt take control
of anything, much less want the position he found himself in, which again all in all was just
a Skrull scheme.
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