Is Iron Man a douchebag?

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#1 Posted by Donnieman v5.1 (44323 posts) - - Show Bio

Personally I say no. The man does what he has to do and does what he believes is in everyone's best interest. I don't know what all the hateration is about. Enlighten me.

#2 Posted by Darkchild (40624 posts) - - Show Bio

he took it into his own hands to control what should and cannot be controlled. The world went through something like that before and it bite everyone in the ass so why do it again.

personally i believe everyone has the right to be and do what they want. since karma does exist i belive if a person decides to be evil their actions will be dealt with in time

#3 Posted by Octagon Freak (11158 posts) - - Show Bio

#4 Posted by Donnieman v5.1 (44323 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkchild says:

"he took it into his own hands to control what should and cannot be controlled. The world went through something like that before and it bite everyone in the ass so why do it again.

what are you referring to?

#5 Posted by Zaraki Ichigo (6476 posts) - - Show Bio

I just don't like the guy anymore. Maybe one day he will redeem himself.

#6 Posted by Boken (7756 posts) - - Show Bio

he got the act passed haveing spidey reviel his secret identity screwing up spideys life. now he's a fugitive. how is he not a douche bag.

#7 Posted by Darkchild (40624 posts) - - Show Bio

The CW he tried to be well god and he lost well not really but in my mind he lost the will of a friend and his friends as a whole see him in a different way as a pantywaist who thinks his money will save his ass everytime he gets in trouble

#8 Posted by Cryo-Wolf (12662 posts) - - Show Bio

Boken says:

"he got the act passed haveing spidey reviel his secret identity screwing up spideys life. now he's a fugitive. how is he not a douche bag."

he did that because he thought it was thr right thing

#9 Posted by Boken (7756 posts) - - Show Bio

but is pete a fugitive from somthing stark pressured him to do.

#10 Posted by Cryo-Wolf (12662 posts) - - Show Bio

it may have been the wrong thing but he thought it was the right thing. and, isn't spidey on Iron Man's side?

#11 Posted by Donnieman v5.1 (44323 posts) - - Show Bio

Cryo-Wolf says:

"Boken says:
"he got the act passed haveing spidey reviel his secret identity screwing up spideys life. now he's a fugitive. how is he not a douche bag."

he did that because he thought it was the right thing"

yeah, in his mind it was the right thing and sometimes thing don't play out exactly how you think them out in your mind.

Spider-Man didn't have to reveal his identity. He made a decision, Iron Man would've made him if he didn't want to, Spider-Man could have easily said No Tony I can't do it.

#12 Posted by Boken (7756 posts) - - Show Bio

still iron mans falt

#13 Posted by Darkchild (40624 posts) - - Show Bio

im not blaming him for Spidys current grief it was his decision as u said but what he thought was right was down right wrong it got alot of people hurt and many more killed

#14 Posted by Cryo-Wolf (12662 posts) - - Show Bio

so, your saying Boken, he was a douche bag for doing what he thought was right?

#15 Posted by Boken (7756 posts) - - Show Bio

beacuse it was wrong

#16 Posted by Cryo-Wolf (12662 posts) - - Show Bio

ok, well, if you help an old lady cross the street because you thought it was right, you're a douche bag? that's pretty much what your saying. he did what he thoght was right therefore hes a dusche bag.

#17 Posted by Donnieman v5.1 (44323 posts) - - Show Bio

Spidey could have easily been a man and said no.

#18 Posted by Golden Specter (61 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think so. He might have made some mistakes on how to go about something but I don't think I would call him a douchebag.

#19 Posted by Darkchild (40624 posts) - - Show Bio

ok hold on

Cryo: i never said that in any way i said what he thought was right wasnt well this isnt going to sound smart but, it wasnt thought through. if he thought it was right he should have thought that alot of people were gonna get hurt or die from what he was going to do.

D: i never said Spidy wasny a man i said he made his decision

#20 Posted by Boken (7756 posts) - - Show Bio

no if some one's life gets messed up, then yea

#21 Posted by Cryo-Wolf (12662 posts) - - Show Bio

You are so stubborn, Boken! You won't listen to any reason! What Spidey did, he did on his own will. Iron Man was doing what he thought was right. If you thought you were doing what was right, wouln't you stick to it?

#22 Posted by Cryo-Wolf (12662 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkchild says:

"ok hold on Cryo: i never said that in any way i said what he thought was right wasnt well this isnt going to sound smart but, it wasnt thought through. if he thought it was right he should have thought that alot of people were gonna get hurt or die from what he was going to do. D: i never said Spidy wasny a man i said he made his decision"

lol sorry if you thought I meant you DC, I meant Boken.

#23 Posted by Darkchild (40624 posts) - - Show Bio

oh ok

#24 Posted by Donnieman v5.1 (44323 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree was Cryo. I'd rather stick to what I thought was right than change my mind and be a hypocrite.

#25 Posted by Darkchild (40624 posts) - - Show Bio

what ever floats your boat mates

but when tony gets his ass handed to him (once again) i will be the one laughing in the background

#26 Posted by Donnieman v5.1 (44323 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkchild says:

"D: i never said Spidy wasny a man i said he made his decision"

I know

#27 Posted by HaloKing343 (1252 posts) - - Show Bio

I think he's a great character. He's one of my favorite characters. Read Matt Fraction's stuff and you'll see what I mean. I really like Iron Man a lot and he gets such a negative rep just because of what happened during Civil War.

#28 Posted by Vance Astro (91238 posts) - - Show Bio

Well this thread was made back when Civil War was fairly new.....

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#29 Posted by HaloKing343 (1252 posts) - - Show Bio

But still, even during Civil War, I sympathysed with Tony Stark's cause. It isn't like he is some sort of greedy money hungry dickface. Tony has feelings and he cares for the wellbeing of humanity. Calling him a douchebag, even during Civil War, is simply unjust.
#30 Posted by crazed_h3ro (1000 posts) - - Show Bio

in civil war he was,but now i just feel sorry for him since he can't even feel sorry for himself
#31 Edited by RetolledTruth (941 posts) - - Show Bio

I actually think what he did in civil war was for the betterment of supes 
 
Now that laws were passedwhat do they have to lose 
And they are not vigilantes  you cant be a superhero and break vigilante laws 
 
But he did slip up moral wise Killig Caps 
 
But Marv Ultimate Alliance 2   will explain different view points 
 
For instance this could help banner and other i could name some bad things but Iron Man is the Pwn King so be careful 
 
oh yeah and you know the writers are going somewhere like with the addiction 
 
He has the most dynamic char in comics i think 
 
But he did slip up  And he rules for it 
 
Honestly Spiderman needs to learn a lesson and smack some people again he is stronger now he should be lifting 30 tons  according when he gets in his late twenties    read that in the first series of spidey 
 
Ironman has saved the universe and you faves backside too many times to count 
 
Namely mine the punisher
#32 Posted by Omega Ray Jay (7823 posts) - - Show Bio

His actions during the Civil War would have me agree with you though his reacent downfall has changed my opinion, but over all he is just a flawed man trying to do the best he can, just like everyone elce.

#33 Posted by RetolledTruth (941 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah he was the first flawed hero O'Ray J   i like him for that   iron man can be pushed to kill and is like batman but less sober and dectective   see batman is a dectective with gadgets and ironman a gadget with detective skills 
 
He would will punisher and went toe to toe with the greats all of them   he is a marvel powerhouse a force to be reckoned with 
 
hey buddy O'Ray J   spidey is a powerhouse too becuase he is coming too is character
#34 Posted by RetolledTruth (941 posts) - - Show Bio

he did dismantle his suit  give hi a break   marvel uni   is taking a big hit soon from some writers   so dont get too happy 
 
Dave the Barbarian vs Conan

#35 Posted by BiteMe-Fanboy (7870 posts) - - Show Bio

chyea. he hits his women in a drunken rage. haha

#36 Posted by RetolledTruth (941 posts) - - Show Bio

yeah and hes drawn with a number 2 pencil
#37 Posted by HaloKing343 (1252 posts) - - Show Bio
@Omega Ray Jay said:
"His actions during the Civil War would have me agree with you though his reacent downfall has changed my opinion, but over all he is just a flawed man trying to do the best he can, just like everyone elce. "

I totally agree with you.
#38 Posted by primepower53 (5686 posts) - - Show Bio

He is such a douche!!! ?His actions are what opened the door to cap's murder, and partly (although I may be mistaken) the dark reign event!!!
 

#39 Posted by Dynamo8 (446 posts) - - Show Bio

I can't say he's fully a douche. . .more like sometimes he is one but not all the time.

#40 Posted by King Quisling (1980 posts) - - Show Bio

No. 

#41 Posted by CATMANEXE (17052 posts) - - Show Bio

his actions were persuaded by Reed, Pym, and Spider-Woman, and it was later revealed
they were Skrulls. he was nowhere near alone in any of it, and not in supporters either.
Steve's death was orchestrated by the Red Skull. its something that was going to get
done eitherway, but Skull chose the moment of Steves arrest because it would be
putting him at his lowest. Tony feels entirely responsible for everything and then some.
he went the length of destroying everything he had left, and literally his own mind.
douche? no. a man that made a mistake and got fooled by the best.

#42 Posted by Vance Astro (91238 posts) - - Show Bio

Iron Man isn't a douchebag.Everything he does is for the greater good he just doesn't always know the right thing to do.

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#43 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:
" Iron Man isn't a douchebag.Everything he does is for the greater good he just doesn't always know the right thing to do. "
Amen.
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#44 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29501 posts) - - Show Bio

This is like asking "Is Spider-man a neurotic worry-wart?". 
 
The answer is YES.
#45 Posted by fanboy#1 (1050 posts) - - Show Bio

he has his moments
#46 Edited by MysterioMaximus (931 posts) - - Show Bio

Much like Cyclops, Tony Stark came into writers that intentionally made you try to dislike him. Neither character was originally depicted so much of a …well…douche. In fact, originally Scott Summers and Tony were quite likable men at one time in the comics. Seems so long ago now. I cannot say why they did what they did to Iron Man, the original concept was redeeming a weapons manufacturer, but I always felt that writers sacrificed Cyclops at the expense of making Wolverine look “cooler” in the eyes of the young and impressionably rebellious anti-hero teens.    

#47 Posted by John_Feaster (341 posts) - - Show Bio

@HaloKing343: 
 
   Even when he cloned Thor and used his clone as a weapon, but let the world think the murdering Thor-Clone was the REAL Thor? Then, when Thor returned...actually attacked and threatened him?
 
   Even when he paid a super villain (Titanium Man) to attack him publicly to garner sympathy for his Regestration policy?
 
   Even when he put numerious supervillains into positions of power?
 
   Even when he had a secret prison built - packed full of captured but uncharged heroes and villains - and when it was attacked by Blastarr...as opposed to launching a rescue mission to save the people (some of who were heroes), simply let the guards leave and closed the Negative Zone gate, turning the population of the prison over to Blastarr? 
 
   Think about it. There are a LOT of dead and mutilated heroes out there, who are dead because of Tonys stupid policies. He did indeed have the best intentions...but he and Reed Richards arrogance backfired and blew up in their faces. Norman Osborn is in power right now because Tony created the system...then had no checks and balences in place to run it without their direct control, which implies that he expected to sit in the big chair forever. 
 
   A 'douchebag"? No. An arrogant, shortsighted fool? Yes indeed. It doesn't matter if he had good intentions. Tony Stark was a fool for thinking that he and Reed alone could solve the worlds problems. He's currently in a bad situation, but he put himself there through his own bad decisions.  
 
   But all in all, that's less HIS fault, and more failure to understand the character. Under a better writer, Tony Stark wouldn't have tried this stupid Regestration.

#48 Posted by robbiesol (474 posts) - - Show Bio

He needed to be humbled a bit, but he's not a douche. 
 
He'll come out of this funk smelling like roses after he kicks some ass in Iron Man 2.
#49 Posted by CATMANEXE (17052 posts) - - Show Bio
@John_Feaster: 
 
1. Reed and Pym (actually Skrulls)
2. dont remember
3. Skrulls and supervillians. 
4. Reed and Pym (actually Skrulls)  
 
Tony Stark was not the master of reality, much less the world nor anything else.
He was a spokesperson. He was no more evidently to blame then the President is for the actions
of everyone in the country nor its institutions. To top that off he was being influenced (again, Skrull Invasion 101)
All he did was back what he believed was right, and the majority of the heroes backed him.
In the end him and Steve stood, and Steve looked around and realized Tony was in fact right.
The only intent was to minimize collateral damage to civilians, and Tony didnt take control
of anything, much less want the position he found himself in, which again all in all was just
a Skrull scheme.
#50 Posted by castleking (24119 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:
" Iron Man isn't a douchebag.Everything he does is for the greater good he just doesn't always know the right thing to do. "
so he is just an imbecile moron ?  
 
thats just great...

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