lets see, there was armor wars, he's a never recovering alcoholic. he supported the registration act, arrested captain america, cloned thor that led to the death of bill foster, and was too weak to prevent norman osborn from gaining control...AND he still argues with steve now that steve has his old job....
Iron Man
Character » Iron Man appears in 11197 issues.
Tony Stark was the arrogant son of wealthy, weapon manufacturer Howard Stark. Tony cared only about himself, but he would have a change of heart after he was kidnapped by terrorists and gravely injured. Pressured to create a weapon of mass destruction, Stark instead created a suit of armor powerful enough for him to escape. Tony used his vast resources and intellect to make the world a better place as The Invincible Iron Man. Stark's super hero identity led him to become a founding member of the Avengers.
does anyone elese think tony stark is a complete douche?
Oh come on, love him or hate him can anyone honestly look at that picture and think he's not at least a little of a douchebag
I like him. It's a man with a lot of troubles. but He doesn't drink anymore (maybe a few times) and he really trise to be better person but sometimes he takes the "wrong" chose and sometimes his arogant side emerges. Read the invincible Iron Man stories by Matt Fraction and you see his reel feelings and his inner layers.
(ps. he is number 1 on my favorite superhero list)
I'm so glad some one finally said this. I really never liked Iron Man all that much as a character. My brothers loves him and through out the years I would only snag his War Machine comics if I wanted to read some Iron Man stuff. The whole Civil War arc was pretty lame IMO anyway. Well, the Iron Spider was dope but....
Well I like the comic book version. He made mistakes, but I thought it was real cool how he took charge. He wanted to police the situation in the Civil War because he didn't want someone who was less sympathetic to the plight of superheros to take the helm.
Are you sure that your not associating the image of Tony as portrayed by Robert Downey Jr., and projecting it onto all portrayals of Tony Stark; because honestly I thought Tony Stark in Iron Man 2 was a massive douche. Downey's portrayal in Iron Man was cool though.
I'm doing that all the time now. I'm really trying hard to stop; it's the sole source of my animosity towards Tony. I found Stark to be an insufferable A-hole in IM 2. I preferred Justin Hammer lol.
Are you sure that your not associating the image of Tony as portrayed by Robert Downey Jr., and projecting it onto all portrayals of Tony Stark; because honestly I thought Tony Stark in Iron Man 2 was a massive douche. Downey's portrayal in Iron Man was cool though."
" @Powerzone789: I'm so glad some one finally said this. I really never liked Iron Man all that much as a character. My brothers loves him and through out the years I would only snag his War Machine comics if I wanted to read some Iron Man stuff. The whole Civil War arc was pretty lame IMO anyway. Well, the Iron Spider was dope but.... "i akways preferred war machine..i think i jus like rhodeys character. @FadeToBlackBolt said:
" @xybernauts said:me too haha i still have to see iron man 2 but robert downy jr. was like...ya he just is tony stark@harleenquinzel10 said:I'm doing that all the time now. I'm really trying hard to stop; it's the sole source of my animosity towards Tony. I found Stark to be an insufferable A-hole in IM 2. I preferred Justin Hammer lol. "
Are you sure that your not associating the image of Tony as portrayed by Robert Downey Jr., and projecting it onto all portrayals of Tony Stark; because honestly I thought Tony Stark in Iron Man 2 was a massive douche. Downey's portrayal in Iron Man was cool though."
" hes supposed to be a bit ignorant, but i dont think hes a douche. I mean, most of the time hes just trying to do the right thing, thats the point of being a superhero. if he was a douche, hed be a villian. simple as that. "true thats what all heroes try to do...but i think he poulls off the douche while still doing it
i guess thats true, but like i said before, hes just an ignorant person who is used to getting everything he wants. I suppose that could come over as "douchey" but i definatly dont think he realizes it.
" lets see, there was armor wars, he's a never recovering alcoholic. he supported the registration act, arrested captain america, cloned thor that led to the death of bill foster, and was too weak to prevent norman osborn from gaining control...AND he still argues with steve now that steve has his old job.... "he hasn't drank in the comics for years now, the Registration act was a good idea just poorly executed, Captain America realized that he was wrong and turned himself in otherwise he would have never been caught, Reed and the Pym skrull were the ones who were mostly behind the Thor clone, he did everything he could to prevent Norman from taking control he even went as far as to wipe his brain clean Norman was given control by the President, and friends argue that's that
This all is very similar to the http://www.comicvine.com/iron-man/29-1455/so-in-the-registration-act-storyarc-iron-man-was-a-bad-guy/92-567029/#39 topic.
Yes he's a douche, he's supposed to be a wealthy, arrogant, ego-tripping douche. But you can't blame all those things on him ( check the above topic for that discussion ).
And as said; he hasn't drank for years and is clean ( even after the hell he's been through lately ). It's just a part of his "charm" as a character to be douchy, yet still be a very efficient hero.
The same as it's Deadpool's "charm" to be so mouthy or Wolverine 's "charm" to be so gritty & violent, etc.
" @xybernauts said:Iron Man in Iron Man two reminded me of a really really bad version of Booster Gold from DC comics.Are you sure that your not associating the image of Tony as portrayed by Robert Downey Jr., and projecting it onto all portrayals of Tony Stark; because honestly I thought Tony Stark in Iron Man 2 was a massive douche. Downey's portrayal in Iron Man was cool though.I'm doing that all the time now. I'm really trying hard to stop; it's the sole source of my animosity towards Tony. I found Stark to be an insufferable A-hole in IM 2. I preferred Justin Hammer lol. "
Yes, he's a douche. Keep in mind that the majority of Iron Man's adventures, especially during his first few decades, have been about have been about protecting his company's assets, a company whose main business for several years was selling arms. He wasn't going on patrol and protecting regular guys, he was more worried about his ability to sell weapons to the government.
I like how people blame Stark for making Ragnarok when Reed and Pym helped and Pym probably had more input than all of them.
I also like how someone could blame Tony for Norman taking control when it had nothing to do with him.If anyone is to blame it's Nick Fury and Deadpool.Hell if we're being completely picky, it's Swordsman's fault for not killing him in that fight.
I love Tony because he is kind of a douche. Just like with Guy Gardner or Steve Carell on the Office. They're all fantastic characters, but I'd never wanna be around them.
I thought his character was meant to be a douche. I love him for it though. There's nothing like a good villain or a bad hero.
well, he was a bit of a douche back when he was drinking. but now that he's lost his memory and is genuinely trying to pull his life together he's a much more sympathetic character.
Ok, Tony DID go a little overboard in Armor Wars. But, Never recovering alcoholic? You MUST be kidding me, he hasn't touched the stuff since that one page in Civil War which I thought that was a completely terrible scene, Now, Stark will not touch it at ALL unless it's a touchy scene of him taking the bottle and putting it back in the cabinet. He RIGHTFULLY supported the act. And arresting a criminal is bad? Jeez I didn't know that. Cap went against what THE PEOPLE wanted, effectively going against the basic founation of America. Cap was an idiot during Civil War. And I dont think I even HAVE to get into the Osborne stuff.
" Ok, Tony DID go a little overboard in Armor Wars. But, Never recovering alcoholic? You MUST be kidding me, he hasn't touched the stuff since that one page in Civil War which I thought that was a completely terrible scene, Now, Stark will not touch it at ALL unless it's a touchy scene of him taking the bottle and putting it back in the cabinet. He RIGHTFULLY supported the act. And arresting a criminal is bad? Jeez I didn't know that. Cap went against what THE PEOPLE wanted, effectively going against the basic founation of America. Cap was an idiot during Civil War. And I dont think I even HAVE to get into the Osborne stuff. "The scene with Sue Richards where he kills happy? I thought that was a fantastic scene.
" If anyone is to blame it's Nick Fury and Deadpool. "Heh. Honestly if that were the case, I think the blame would be on Nick Fury, he should've been able to provide a totally secure line, since I really doubt whether Deadpool would be able to do anything remotely like that, not exactly the biggest tech genius there ;). But I totally agree, you can't really put the blame on Iron Man for what happened with Osborn etc.
The Iron Man is a douche stuff is a bandwagon thing.In all honesty if you actually read his comics everything he does is to either advanace technology who to help people.Even the registration act was an attempt to help the superhero community and keep them away from the backlash of the public.The stamford incident wasn't the fault of the New Warriors but alot of them died along with some students.People were afraid.Tony was looking for away to get the public to not be afraid and trust them again.
Its what he is, sometimes I like it for that, other times I just wanna punch him, it's a love/hate relationship
The only reason I like Tony Stark is the fact that he IS a douchebag. He's got every reason to be, lol.
" does anyone else think that tony stark is a complete douche? "
To be honest i wasn't ever aware that his armor had the ability to complete that process
until you mentioned it...
Aw I like Stark. He let's the heroes stay in his house, he acts cool, and he works hard on making weapons for everyone. I don't think he's a douche.
Iron Man is great. Tony Stark is a douche. Just like how Bruce Wayne is a tool but, Batman is just an asshole. Smart but, an asshole non the less.
" @Crom-Cruach: i think hes what every man would want to be: rich, genius, and a suave ladies man... who wouldnt want that.... "Being rich and suave is one thing. Being a douche like Tony Stark is another. You can be rich and suave without being a douche.
@Crom-Cruach: I think it would be kind of hard to have such a level of genius, constantly meet people who are dumber than you, and not become at least a bit douchy about this. Having this, plus all the money and women ( however in a less amount in the current state he's in ), wouldn't help either. I'm not saying you have to become a douche because if this, I'm saying it's easier to become a douche under these circumstances.
He isnt a douche. hes just done some bad thigs with the best intentions.
the Ragnarok thing was horrible but He,Reed and Criti Noll are all EQUALLY responsible for that
supporting registration during Civil War was what Tony thought was the right thing to do, wich was all he was obliged to do in that kind of situation.
Even though i have no love for him and i wholeheartedly supported the Ant-Reg movement , i understand for the most bpart why he did some of these things
" Some hate Superman because he's too perfect, others hate Iron Man because he's too human. Just can't please some people. "Iron Man isn't too human. He's an adrenaline junkie super genius with more money than anyone else in the world. Clark Kent is far easier to relate to than Tony.
" I'm not saying you have to become a douche because if this, I'm saying it's easier to become a douche under these circumstances. "Still doesn't mean you have to become a douche or that it justifies your douchyness. It doesn't.
@FadeToBlackBolt:
The rest of your comment was correct though. He is a super genius and an adrenaline junkie. Though I agree that I can relate more to Tony Stark and his problems than Superman, which doesn't mean I dislike Superman. I just think most people like that there heroes have some (big) faults to humanize them. Like a lot of people totally disliked Tony Stark before, and now he's really a sympathetic character with his whole fall from grace etc.
@Crom-Cruach said:
Uhm.." @ShirEPanjshir said:
Still doesn't mean you have to become a douche or that it justifies your douchyness. It doesn't. "" I'm not saying you have to become a douche because if this, I'm saying it's easier to become a douche under these circumstances. "
"What I meant was that I agree with your statement that his being smart and suave and rich makes it easier for him to be a douche. But that I also believe it doesn't justify his behavior at all.
Uhm.. "
Though the current Tony Stark isn't a douche .. or at least not that much.
" Though the current Tony Stark isn't a douche .. or at least not that much. "
Honestly, I wouldn't know and I don't really care, no offense meant or anything. But I've given up on Marvel a long time ago.
" Oh come on, love him or hate him can anyone honestly look at that picture and think he's not at least a little of a douchebagI love Iron Man. But it's basically factual that he is an arrogant prick. I mean, Civil War is seriously metaphorically proof of that.
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