Is he like...

#1 Posted by Primmaster64 (21137 posts) - - Show Bio

Image's Superboy equivalent?

#2 Posted by superboy12 (255 posts) - - Show Bio

No he could prob kill Superboy in a second
#3 Posted by ~The Wanderer~ (34405 posts) - - Show Bio
@superboy12 said:
" No he could prob kill Superboy in a second "
What does that have to do with anything?
But yes, it's possible to see it that way.
#4 Posted by Crom-Cruach (8722 posts) - - Show Bio
@Primmaster64:  Yes and no, Omni-Man basically became the Superman of his world until the confrontation with Mark revealed him as a Vitrumite conquering agent. That said, with Omni-Man gone he's more functionally the superman of his world.
#5 Posted by passionfruits (128 posts) - - Show Bio

It is so hard to compare him to superboy. I mean superboy or superman would never choke someone to death. Or beat someone until they were covered in someone's blood.

#6 Posted by Son_of_Magnus (15258 posts) - - Show Bio
@superboy12 said:
" No he could prob kill Superboy in a second "
No he couldn't
#7 Posted by Primmaster64 (21137 posts) - - Show Bio
@passionfruits: They could but choose not too.
 
@Son_of_Magnus said:
" @superboy12 said:
" No he could prob kill Superboy in a second "
No he couldn't "

true. he can't beat Superboy.
#8 Posted by superboy12 (255 posts) - - Show Bio
@Primmaster64 said:
" @passionfruits: They could but choose not too.
 
@Son_of_Magnus said:
" @superboy12 said:
" No he could prob kill Superboy in a second "
No he couldn't "
true. he can't beat Superboy. "

No Invincible could tottaly beat him cause the more he pushes his body the stronger his powers get. Invincible would whip superboy in a second cause he's faster and WAY stronger.
#9 Posted by Primmaster64 (21137 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think so man...but Mark way cooler.

#10 Posted by Son_of_Magnus (15258 posts) - - Show Bio
@superboy12: You mind backing your words up?
#11 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - - Show Bio
@superboy12 said:
" No he could prob kill Superboy in a second "
Umm...no.
 
He is not really their Superboy though. I would consider him more of a Spider-Man than a Superboy.
#12 Posted by Son_of_Magnus (15258 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nobody said:
" @superboy12 said:
" No he could prob kill Superboy in a second "
Umm...no.  He is not really their Superboy though. I would consider him more of a Spider-Man than a Superboy. "
Me too 
#13 Posted by Primmaster64 (21137 posts) - - Show Bio

Na I think of him as Superboy.

#14 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - - Show Bio
@Primmaster64 said:
" Na I think of him as Superboy. "
Maybe powerwise he is closer to Superboy or Superman. But story/personality, I see him more as Spider-Man.
#15 Posted by superboy12 (255 posts) - - Show Bio
@Son_of_Magnus said:
" @superboy12: You mind backing your words up? "

Look at invincible's page it says if he presses his powers futhur then they increase. He lifted 400 tons at the beginning of the series and he's gotten way stronger since then. Kryptonians average strength under a yellow sun I believe is roughly 100 tons. So Invincible wins there. Also you have to remember Superboy's body uses up the solar energy in his body so he cant always be at his full power. If you dont believe look at what happened to him in Infinite Crisis during his first  with superboy prime
#16 Posted by Son_of_Magnus (15258 posts) - - Show Bio
@superboy12 said:
" @Son_of_Magnus said:
" @superboy12: You mind backing your words up? "
Look at invincible's page it says if he presses his powers futhur then they increase. He lifted 400 tons at the beginning of the series and he's gotten way stronger since then. Kryptonians average strength under a yellow sun I believe is roughly 100 tons. So Invincible wins there. Also you have to remember Superboy's body uses up the solar energy in his body so he cant always be at his full power. If you dont believe look at what happened to him in Infinite Crisis during his first  with superboy prime "
...................... Ok first off Kryptonians are more like 100 billion tons strength class Conner has the strength to move the Moon and the Speed to go way faster than light not to mention having all the Kryptonian powers and powerful Telekinesis. And did you even read Infinity Crisis? Superboy did well against a character that thoroughly raped all of DC Earth by himself . Superboy Prime Took the whole GL Corps The Flashes and Two Supermen to final stop him 
#17 Posted by superboy12 (255 posts) - - Show Bio
@Son_of_Magnus said:
" @superboy12 said:
" @Son_of_Magnus said:
" @superboy12: You mind backing your words up? "
Look at invincible's page it says if he presses his powers futhur then they increase. He lifted 400 tons at the beginning of the series and he's gotten way stronger since then. Kryptonians average strength under a yellow sun I believe is roughly 100 tons. So Invincible wins there. Also you have to remember Superboy's body uses up the solar energy in his body so he cant always be at his full power. If you dont believe look at what happened to him in Infinite Crisis during his first  with superboy prime "
...................... Ok first off Kryptonians are more like 100 billion tons strength class Conner has the strength to move the Moon and the Speed to go way faster than light not to mention having all the Kryptonian powers and powerful Telekinesis. And did you even read Infinity Crisis? Superboy did well against a character that thoroughly raped all of DC Earth by himself . Superboy Prime Took the whole GL Corps The Flashes and Two Supermen to final stop him  "

Ya but there's a HUGE strength differnce between Superboy and Superboy prime because Superboy Prime is on Par with Silver age Superman who is way stronger then Superman. Also Superboy isnt full Kryptonian and as I said his body uses the solar energy to fast and after his battle with superboy Prime his body started falling appart because of that! 
#18 Posted by RedK (2521 posts) - - Show Bio
@superboy12:  thats because Superboy hasn't had his Kryptonian powers that long so his body isn't use to using up that much enery that fast. Superboy could grab Mark use his TK and stop his heart, Invincible can't beat Superboy
#19 Edited by skaarason (683 posts) - - Show Bio
@superboy12 said:

" @Primmaster64 said:

" @passionfruits: They could but choose not too.
 

@Son_of_Magnus

said:
" @superboy12 said:
" No he could prob kill Superboy in a second "
No he couldn't "
true. he can't beat Superboy. "
No Invincible could tottaly beat him cause the more he pushes his body the stronger his powers get. Invincible would whip superboy in a second cause he's faster and WAY stronger. "
he would totally take conner 
#20 Posted by Primmaster64 (21137 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nobody: So a combination of the both.
#21 Edited by cbishop (6936 posts) - - Show Bio
@Primmaster64 said:

"Image's Superboy equivalent? "


I'm skipping the 144 posts before mine.  He's basically Robert Kirkman's Superboy, yes, if DC had generational continuity.  Omni-Man was Superman and Mark is Son of Superman.  The Viltrumites are Kryptonians.  The twist is that the Viltrumites aren't peace-loving, and still exist in the universe (their planet didn't explode, in other words).  There are many surface differences between Superboy and Invincible, but they basically boil down to Kirkman being more willing to show things that DC is not going to show.  Kirkman's story acknowledges that if two superguys go toe to toe, there's going to be blood and destruction and maybe death.  It happens.  DC and Marvel are never going to show that the way other companies do, because they are as much or more concerned about their marketing as they are the stories in the comics.  Superman wouldn't look like a hero if he was covered in badguy blood all the time.  He'd look like a conqueror, and people would be afraid of him.  DC wants characters that people look at as good examples for their kids to be reading.  Kirkman's telling a more realistic superhero story (as realistic as that kind of fiction can be).  Everything about this story says that Invincible is Kirkman's Superboy, on his way to being Superman.  The only thing that makes him remotely like Spider-Man is that he has more of a full personality - that is, a full range of emotions, and real world problems on top of his superhero problems (family, relationships, paying for stuff, etc.). 
 
So a more concise answer to your question would be "Yes, but better." ;)
#22 Posted by Primmaster64 (21137 posts) - - Show Bio
@cbishop: lol okay!
#23 Posted by Valtot (4502 posts) - - Show Bio

invincible at his current level would tear conner apart
#24 Posted by Primmaster64 (21137 posts) - - Show Bio

Not really.

#25 Posted by Vitality (1759 posts) - - Show Bio
@cbishop said:
"@Primmaster64 said:

"Image's Superboy equivalent? "

I'm skipping the 144 posts before mine.  He's basically Robert Kirkman's Superboy, yes, if DC had generational continuity.  Omni-Man was Superman and Mark is Son of Superman.  The Viltrumites are Kryptonians.  The twist is that the Viltrumites aren't peace-loving, and still exist in the universe (their planet didn't explode, in other words).  There are many surface differences between Superboy and Invincible, but they basically boil down to Kirkman being more willing to show things that DC is not going to show.  Kirkman's story acknowledges that if two superguys go toe to toe, there's going to be blood and destruction and maybe death.  It happens.  DC and Marvel are never going to show that the way other companies do, because they are as much or more concerned about their marketing as they are the stories in the comics.  Superman wouldn't look like a hero if he was covered in badguy blood all the time.  He'd look like a conqueror, and people would be afraid of him.  DC wants characters that people look at as good examples for their kids to be reading.  Kirkman's telling a more realistic superhero story (as realistic as that kind of fiction can be).  Everything about this story says that Invincible is Kirkman's Superboy, on his way to being Superman.  The only thing that makes him remotely like Spider-Man is that he has more of a full personality - that is, a full range of emotions, and real world problems on top of his superhero problems (family, relationships, paying for stuff, etc.).  So a more concise answer to your question would be "Yes, but better." ;) "

Good f#@%ing answer.
#26 Posted by -Eclipse- (7501 posts) - - Show Bio
@cbishop: Nice post :) 
 
And as far as I can tell, Kryptonians are a LOT more durable than Viltrumites, so Superboy would beat Invincible on that fact alone.
#27 Posted by cbishop (6936 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vitality said:
"Good f#@%ing answer. "
 
Thank you. 

@-Eclipse- said:
" @cbishop: Nice post :)  And as far as I can tell, Kryptonians are a LOT more durable than Viltrumites, so Superboy would beat Invincible on that fact alone. "

Thank you, also, but I don't know about the "more durable than Viltrumites" comment.  I think that has more to do with DC not showing mass amounts of blood, so when a Kryptonian gets knocked around, their clothing might be in tatters, and there will be some crosshatched bruises, but no more than a trickle of blood here and there.  Kirkman's more willing to show the blood of battle, but c'mon, when the V'Empire wants a planet, they send ONE Viltrumite to take it.  They've got to be pretty durable to be able to do that.
#28 Posted by -Eclipse- (7501 posts) - - Show Bio
@cbishop: That is true, but yeah, I was kinda basing my comment on not really seeing Kryptonians bleed or get wounded without Kryptonite being involved. 
  
Although, does Doomsday have some sort of kryptonite powers? Cause he did THIS to Superman, after all...

#29 Posted by cbishop (6936 posts) - - Show Bio
@-Eclipse-: No Kryptonite - Doomsday just had to be a tough son of a gun to take down Supes.  ...<sigh> I cannot help disliking this story.  The Death of Superman should have been delivered by Luthor or Bizarro, IMO, not some newcomer.  But meh, it's done now.
#30 Posted by -Eclipse- (7501 posts) - - Show Bio
@cbishop: I was never really a Superman fan and wasn't reading comics (actually, I may not have been born, I don't know when DoS came out xD) at the time, so I wasn't bothered :P 
 
Still, if someone can do that to Supes sans Kryptonite, I guess it's possible that Viltrumites could stand up to Kryptonians. Though Supes does have a few extra powers on his side.
#31 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32047 posts) - - Show Bio

Boys your geting of topic, if you want a Superboy Vs Invincible take it to the battle forum.

#32 Posted by cbishop (6936 posts) - - Show Bio
@-Eclipse-: True enough. 

@spiderbat87: True enough.
#33 Posted by Nighthunter (28578 posts) - - Show Bio
@cbishop said:
" @-Eclipse-: No Kryptonite - Doomsday just had to be a tough son of a gun to take down Supes.  ...<sigh> I cannot help disliking this story.  The Death of Superman should have been delivered by Luthor or Bizarro, IMO, not some newcomer.  But meh, it's done now. "
actually I disagree. Had Luthor been the one that killed Superman then there is not much to do with him after that. If you lose or win you still lose credibility or fans become enraged of you being too powerful an opponent for anyone.
 
That's what happened to Doosmday. Once you kill superman you can't go any way higer. So you can only go down
#34 Posted by cbishop (6936 posts) - - Show Bio
@spiderbat87 said:
"Boys your geting of topic, if you want a Superboy Vs Invincible take it to the battle forum. "

@Nighthunter said:
"actually I disagree. Had Luthor been the one that killed Superman then there is not much to do with him after that. If you lose or win you still lose credibility or fans become enraged of you being too powerful an opponent for anyone.  That's what happened to Doosmday. Once you kill superman you can't go any way higer. So you can only go down"

This is the last I'm saying on this, because Spiderbat has suggested (altho' I chaff a bit at "boys") we stay on topic. 
 
I agree with you that killing Superman would end Luthor or Bizarro's usability as much as it did Doomsday's, but in a perfect world, when the villain kills Superman... SUPERMAN... Superman stays dead, and the story ends... and much like Doomsday, the villain dies with him.  Personally, like many fans who read it back in the 1980's, I hold Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow? up as the true Death of Superman.  Not because it's Alan Moore, but because it's epic.  It involves the final fates of most of the characters associated with Superman, as well as Superman himself, with a literal wink at the end, to all of the readers.  Pretty much, that's the way it should be for a character like Superman: a be all, end all epic with just about every major character to ever cross his path, THE END. ;)
#35 Posted by Primmaster64 (21137 posts) - - Show Bio

I hate, I HATE,HATE,HATE,HATE Lex Luthor, give more light to Superman's other villains.

#36 Posted by -Eclipse- (7501 posts) - - Show Bio

POWERPLEX DEMANDS THAT YOU ALL GET BACK ON TOPIC! >.
#37 Posted by superboyrocks13 (1089 posts) - - Show Bio
@-Eclipse-:
lol powerplex is anoying :)

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