Indiana Jones and The Kingdom of The Crystal Skull

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#1 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

The new movie, in theatres May 22 starring Harrison Ford reprising his role as the world-famous adventurer Indiana Jones, this time accompanied by a new-sidekick played by Shia Lebouf.

I'm a huge fan of the original movies (THE best adventure movies EVER-hands down!), so I have high-expectations for this one.

Thoughts? Comments? Interesting news tidbits?

I was, personally, somewhat surprised that they had finally gotten around to making a fourth movie, and Harrison Ford (who's in his......60s, I believe?) continuing to play Indiana was a bit of a shock. He looks almost the same as he did in the original movies, though.

#2 Posted by pixelized (62882 posts) - - Show Bio

Shia leboef is adorable

Mugshot [=

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#3 Posted by pixelized (62882 posts) - - Show Bio

i loved even stevens...kind of..lol...i wanted to see disturbia...i heard it was amazing

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#4 Posted by King Saturn (223829 posts) - - Show Bio

pixelized says:

"Shia leboef is adorableMugshot [="

Shia Lebeouf, is actually one of my favorite actors. I use to watch him all the time on Even Stevens.

#5 Posted by Agent (21 posts) - - Show Bio

I was really excited when i heard about the release of this movie, what the best factor of this anouncement was Karen Allen reprising her role as Marion Ravenwood, she is my favorite Indy babe by far because of her tough attitude and humorous ability to get into so much trouble. I am very glad about Ford comming back too but i'm not much of a fan of Shia Lebeouf, for me he jus isnt as good as many think. However, there a couple of disappointments already for me so far about this movie was no return of Sean Connery as he was practically the star of the Last Crusade making the movie hilarious and heart-warming. The other disappointment is the significant role of Cate Blanchett as i believe she is the worst actress alive with her uncanny ability to nearly destroy the movies she's in, which makes me fear that the Brit will ruin this Indy Installment.

#6 Posted by King Saturn (223829 posts) - - Show Bio

pixelized says:

"i loved even stevens...kind of..lol...i wanted to see disturbia...i heard it was amazing"

Yeah, I havent seen Disturbia either. But have you seen " The Battle Of Shaker Heights " ? Shia was awesome in that movie.

#7 Posted by pixelized (62882 posts) - - Show Bio

I think mr. ford is my biggest hesitation...idk...something about him trying to reprise his roll as indiana feels like i'm being molested instead of touched...like it seems so forced and unwanted that i think it's going to be the death to this movie...not miss Blanchett. lol

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#8 Posted by crazy spidey (3489 posts) - - Show Bio

looks good, seeing it the 23rd

#9 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

Disturbia was pretty good. It wasn't "incredible", but nevertheless, it was entertaining and a good movie.

I can understand your thoughts, Pixel. I think that, to the disbelief of many people, Ford will be coming back with a vengeance and kick some @$$ in this one. Hope it doesn't end up like Mr. Lucas's other movie franchises sequels, though, in which case I would be crushed.

#10 Posted by pixelized (62882 posts) - - Show Bio

nope i missed that one too. lol

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#11 Posted by pixelized (62882 posts) - - Show Bio

Thats the thing though...harrison ford is in his early millions...and his build doesnt strike me as a$$ kicker/ing so idk....i've seen some of the promos for it and i'm not on the edge of my seat...although...i've never seen an Idiana film before so idk, we'll see what happens. lol

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#12 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

pixelized says:

"...although...i've never seen an Idiana film before so idk, we'll see what happens. lol"

You haven't!?!?

Oh jeez, you do not know what you're missing! Raiders Of The Lost Ark is one of the single greatest movies ever made!

See it as soon as possible.

#13 Posted by Agent (21 posts) - - Show Bio

Sparda says:

"pixelized says:
"...although...i've never seen an Idiana film before so idk, we'll see what happens. lol"
You haven't!?!? Oh jeez, you do not know what you're missing! *Raiders Of The Lost Ark* is one of the single greatest movies ever made! See it as soon as possible."

i second that Sparda

#14 Posted by pixelized (62882 posts) - - Show Bio

LOL...i'll try to....i've seen bits and pieces of one...but i havent actually watched one from beginning to end..

i know he uses a whip..thats pretty sexy

though...whenever i come to this thread and i see shia's picture, it makes me smile a little. lol..

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#15 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

One of the best dang scenes in any movie ever.

FUN FACT: The dude with Indy for most of the scene in Alfred Molina, who later went on to play Doc Ock in Spider-Man 2.

#16 Posted by pixelized (62882 posts) - - Show Bio

Sparda that was torture. lol

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#17 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

pixelized says:

"Sparda that was torture. lol"

........

Faith in modern movie audiences is crushed

#18 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

pixelized says:

"Lmao...indiana isnt for me...star wars isnt for me...James bond isnt for me...lol....Charlie's angels is something i can watch though...lol..."

EVEN James Bond!?!?

......ga....gu....guh.....

Brain implodes, logs off simultaneously

#19 Posted by pixelized (62882 posts) - - Show Bio

Lmao...indiana isnt for me...star wars isnt for me...James bond isnt for me...lol....Charlie's angels is something i can watch though...lol...

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#20 Posted by pixelized (62882 posts) - - Show Bio

LMAO.

I've never seen any of those movies, with the exception of the Angels of course. lol

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#21 Posted by Octagon Freak (11158 posts) - - Show Bio

I saw the movie today, and I really liked it.

What are your thoughts?

#22 Posted by G-Man (30657 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm pinning this since I just saw it and can't get the song out of my head.

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#23 Posted by aztek_the_lost (28224 posts) - - Show Bio

G-Man says:

"I'm pinning this since I can't get the song out of my head."

lol

I sort of want to watch the movie but am also disappointed like pix states, that Ford being in his early millions will fail to rise to greatness this time around

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#24 Posted by Kurrent (14061 posts) - - Show Bio

I did't like it as much as I though i would

#25 Posted by Obi Wan Kenobi! (27638 posts) - - Show Bio

King Saturn says:

"pixelized says:
"Shia leboef is adorableMugshot [="

Shia Lebeouf, is actually one of my favorite actors. I use to watch him all the time on Even Stevens. "

lol me too...I met him at In and Out..he's cool

#26 Posted by zero edge (3692 posts) - - Show Bio

It looks good, maybe I'll check it out this weekend.

#27 Posted by Chameleone (8710 posts) - - Show Bio

I liked it, but the ending kinda took me out of it

#28 Posted by G-Man (30657 posts) - - Show Bio

chameleone says:

"I liked it, but the ending kinda took me out of it"

Exactly. It was a fun movie. Nice to see the old Indy humor and charm. I had some mixed feelings. The ending was...okay. It was kinda neat but started feeling like something other than an Indy movie. Overall I was entertained. They still can't top Raiders.

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#29 Posted by Cosmic Sentinel (3749 posts) - - Show Bio

I saw this 11am Thursday morning. I was a little worried when I got there because there were tons of kids lined up on a school trip, fortunately they were watching something else. I enjoyed the film. It wasn't perfect, there were some weak moments, but when the action started it was classic Indy. Harrison Ford still has what it takes. Raiders is still the best IMO too.

Personally, I don't much like Shia. I can't put my finger on why though. Perhaps it's because all he needs to do is be in a Superman movie and travel through time in a DeLorean and he has lived all my childhood dreams.

#30 Posted by Kiara_Sullivan (30074 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm excited about the movies, not because i am a fan of Indy (for some reason the movies haven't had the same effect on me as they used too) but because I am interested in seeing how they portray the myth of the Crystal Skulls.

#31 Posted by Kain Echnida (1750 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't reallly like Indiana Jones.

#32 Posted by danhimself (22292 posts) - - Show Bio

i reall want to see this movie however after reading ign's review i'm really worried that i won't like it here's the review so you guys can see why i'm worried even though ign's reviews are never to be taken to heart

Contrary to even producer George Lucas' summary assessment of the film, Temple of Doom is not regarded as the least favorite of the Indiana Jones films because "it's the darkest." Nor is it because, by comparison, Willie Scott is the most grating (or just least likeable) of Indy's female companions. No, it's because the core of the story – uncovering an Indian cult that practices human sacrifice and voodoo – has little or nothing to do with the historical, intellectual or emotional journey of Henry Jones Jr. – archaeologist, adventurer and finder of rare antiquities.

It was precisely this quality I was reminded of while watching the newest (and by all accounts, last) adventure in the series. A movie of epic girth but featherweight impact, Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull will certainly satisfy folks who have been anxiously awaiting the best possible Mummy or National Treasure movie that will ever be made, but it is an otherwise hollow exercise in summer moviemaking that earns it the confirmed but dubious rank of third best of the series' four installments.

Without spoiling any of the film's secrets, Indy IV follows Jones as he explores, yes, the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Along the way he picks up a scrappy biker named Mutt Williams (Shia Le Beouf), a sometime partner named George McHale (Ray Winstone), a nutty professor named Oxley (John Hurt), and a former flame named Marion (Raiders' Karen Allen). Amidst escaping mortal danger, Indy supposedly learns new life lessons, rekindles a romance long thought extinguished, and makes some new friends.

And so it goes. The idea of a new Indiana Jones movie, with the possible exception of the forthcoming Star Trek reboot, is basically a fan boy's ultimate wet dream – a reunion of as many key cast and crew members as possible in order to recapture the magic of the beloved series for an all-new generation. Unfortunately, the film's opening scene sets the stage for an adventure better-endured by Wile E. Coyote than good old Indiana Jones, emphasis on the old. Following a breathtaking chase in a Roswell, N.M. warehouse, Indy escapes capture on the back of a rocket sled, only to discover that his safe haven is a test site for an atom bomb. Hiding inside a lead-lined refrigerator, Indy avoids being annihilated after the appliance is safely catapulted several miles out of harm's way.

One supposes this is Steven Spielberg and George Lucas' way of telling audiences that, yes, 19 years have passed, but Jones is still more than man enough for whatever adventure lands in his lap. But the series' supernatural bent notwithstanding, Indiana Jones was never himself superhuman. Here, he's virtually indestructible, and nothing is going to slow this guy down – not even a nuclear explosion, much less Russian soldiers, Peruvian ninjas, Mayan tribesmen, or killer ants. As difficult as it is to examine the story without revealing anything, the fact that the film's plot centers around something completely and totally imaginary – rather than at least vaguely historical, much less biblical as worked in Raiders and Last Crusade – not only turns Indy into one of the same treasure hunters as the guys at the helm of the films referenced in paragraph two, but creates absolutely no motivation for him to continue his quest and then finally, zero emotional stakes for its eventual fulfillment.

Credit goes to Spielberg for being, in this critic's opinion, the all-time greatest purveyor of event-movie thrills, due in large part to his virtually unparalleled ability to build action scenes smoothly and effectively out of story and character developments, and then make you care about them. In all three of the earlier Indiana Jones films, Spielberg exploited his material's serialized source material to truly spectacular effect, and even in Temple of Doom he turned rote set pieces like the bug room/ceiling spikes into surprisingly natural and exhilarating sequences. In Kingdom, however, Spielberg is trapped by a script from Lucas, David Koepp and Jeff Nathanson, all of whom seem to have forgotten that the episodic structure of the previous films was not only intentional, but extremely effective, creating a perfect sort of stairstep to each film's eventual, gratifying climax.

Here, the screenwriting trio favors a broader and ultimately less exciting narrative that pays off in all the wrong places, if at all, and even Spielberg's biggest set pieces fail to provide that extra kick that elevated Indy above the ranks of regular (or even super-) heroes. The middle of the film features an extended chase/fight sequence through the jungle that is occasionally exciting, but like the nuclear explosion, it builds to yet another (and not one, but a series of) Looney Tunes-like payoffs. Not to mention the fact that despite the many insistences of Spielberg, a real preponderance of CGI was used in just about every scene, reducing the aforementioned chase to a stroll through The Matrix, and relegating many other sequences to hermetically-sealed locations that would only seem authentic on a studio backlot.

Finally, there are the characters themselves, who are preprogrammed to be part of Kingdom's family story and never quite achieve any of the multidimensionality of any of their predecessors – even when they are the same as in previous films. Yeah, Ford's old; let's acknowledge it and move on. But regardless of his physical age, the movie star has not advanced well (except commercially) in the intervening years: His last defensibly good movie was 1993's The Fugitive and his other efforts, including frivolous crowd-pleasers like Air Force One, have sullied his reputation as a reliable leading man. While he abets himself as an action hero, successfully tag-teaming his scenes with what must have been a phalanx of stunt men, he scarcely devotes a second's thought to the "Doctor" in his character's title, coming across far more like a disapproving father than the academe-cum-adventurer we've come to know and love.

Allen was apparently lured out of retirement to reprise her role as Marion, but despite my own pangs of excitement to the news of her casting, she does nothing with a role that's given nothing to do. As one of my colleagues observed, "old people being romantic is yucky." Whether this was acknowledged openly by Spielberg and the screenwriters is unknown, but suffice it to say that everyone involved was far too busy building the next action sequence to worry about whether or not Ford and Allen – much less their characters – still had any chemistry left, instead hashing out their reconciliation in a crass exchange of expository dialogue that explains what happened but hardly informs it.

And LeBeouf is probably himself a movie star in the making, but one can't quite help but wonder what Spielberg saw in the young actor that inspired his being cast as a tough biker who's quick with a blade. Notwithstanding the fact that Marlon Brando's look in The Wild One, which Spielberg steals for Mutt, has since become a caricature of leather-clad gayness, LeBeouf conveys nothing so well as neurotic confidence, which does not easily translate into street smarts or manly fortitude once he is fighting side by side with Indy in the jungles of Peru.

All of which adds up to what has and will likely become the ongoing difference in opinion between longtime fans and folks who are new to this or any other franchise: They just don't make them like they used to, and depending on which category you fall into, that's either a bad or good thing. Is the iconography of a beloved film series inadvertently a bad thing when filmmakers decide time has come to resurrect it? Does the "history" of a franchise matter when new viewers don't know or care about the signposts that originally made it a success? I admit my bias in the case of Indiana Jones: Some of my fondest movie memories are of the original three, and while I didn't find another installment exactly necessary, I confess I was as intrigued as the next guy to see how Spielberg ushered Indy into the arms of the CGI generation.

Ironically, it seems that after the rest of Hollywood devoted endless hours and countless millions to keeping up with the Joneses, the franchise felt obligated to return the favor, creating a blockbuster that will satisfy a core audience of thrill-seekers but otherwise leave no deeper emotional impact other than the superficial gratification of simplest expectations. Suffice it to say I wish that I could discuss the machinery of the plot in greater detail since it's the thing that really kills any sense of connection between Indy and his adventure, much less his adventure and the audience. But overall the only thing left to acknowledge is that by generic summer movie standards, Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull delivers the absolute best of its kind, which means that it will almost inevitably qualify as a spectacular commercial triumph – albeit without quite earning the right to be called a creative success.

#33 Posted by G-Man (30657 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't generally read reviews and didn't feel like reading all that. Basically if you've watched and enjoyed the other films, go see Crystal Skull. Despite its flaws, it is classic Indiana Jones. Whether it's the last film or the beginning of a new chapter, it's worth watching just for that reason. It was fun. See a matinee show so you don't spend as much if you're worried. It's not a perfect film. The ending (which most people are commenting about) was a little off. It was cool but felt a little weird for an Indy film. But then other things felt weird like Indy being in the 1950s. That's just "life" progressing. It's worth seeing if you like the character.

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#34 Posted by danhimself (22292 posts) - - Show Bio

oh i'm definitly going to see the movie...i loved the other movies...it's just hard to get excited about a movie in the internet age when you can read reviews about a movie before it even comes out especially when the reviews aren't that great

#35 Posted by Constantine (16046 posts) - - Show Bio

The MOVIE

KICKS @$$

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#36 Posted by Cosmic Sentinel (3749 posts) - - Show Bio

danhimself says:

"oh i'm definitly going to see the movie...i loved the other movies...it's just hard to get excited about a movie in the internet age when you can read reviews about a movie before it even comes out especially when the reviews aren't that great"

I don't take much stock in reviews, I've enjoyed films that have been mauled by critics and felt like walking out of films that get great reviews. Alot of it is subjective.

#37 Posted by Crimson Orchid (5825 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm really iffy about this movie. I love the original films so much that I just don't think this film will be able to match their level. That and I am not a fan of Shia... It just seems like he plays the exact same character in every movie, just give him a different name... kind of annoying...

#38 Posted by G-Man (30657 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not a big fan of his either but I thought his character worked here. I actually started liking him even though I was really against the idea in the beginning.

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#42 Posted by Platinumwarrior (2967 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybie he didnt like the movie? Im seeing it tommarow with some friends and btw gius dont qoute his whole post it justs wastes space

#43 Posted by Aasujin (64 posts) - - Show Bio

Im sorry but I dont understand the big fuss over Indiana Jones

#44 Posted by Vrakmul (23398 posts) - - Show Bio

Aasujin says:

"Im sorry but I dont understand the big fuss over Indiana Jones"

Indiana jones is the second most popular of George Lucas' sagas.

#45 Posted by G-Man (30657 posts) - - Show Bio

Also, this just in from Variety:

Steven Spielberg's "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" is looking to become the second-best Memorial Day opener ever, with an estimated four-day gross of $126 million from 4,260 runs.Including Thursday's haul, "Crystal Skull's" five-day opening gross looks to nab a hefty $151 million, according to Paramount, which is distributing the film for George Lucas' LucasFilms."Crystal Skull's" strong box office debut marks a triumphant return for the action-adventure franchise.

Second best Memorial Day opening? Not too shabby considering a lot of people just want to say how bad the movie (or ending) is. It's real easy to sit back and criticize something. I'd like to see their attempt at a movie.

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#46 Posted by BriClops (40 posts) - - Show Bio

uhm yes it was good, there were classic moments but didnt have the general feel of indy. i dislike the russian woman greatly, like yes alot. it really didnt have that treasure hunter feel either. Over all it was decient alot of cheese though, far to little whip. but for 65 ford performed good.

#47 Posted by Platinumwarrior (2967 posts) - - Show Bio

Just got back from the movie. It was really good and i would reccomend it too all that like adventure movies.

#48 Posted by barlow (2 posts) - - Show Bio

I liked how the sets and costumes looked authentic to the time the movie took place just like the old movies. It was a fun summer movie, and i would pay to see it another time. The release of the movie also brought in a toy line and more young fans.

#49 Posted by HulkSmash (53 posts) - - Show Bio

I just saw it and I can't believed they had to add aliens to Indiana Jones.

Come on people. I think Zombies, werewolves, or even Demons would be better.

#50 Posted by lady_redhead (9592 posts) - - Show Bio

This film was a massive let down... frikkin ALIENS?? COME ONNN

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