Can Iceman survive.....

#1 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

......being tackled by Fire Leo, from Viewtiful Joe (the game, for PS2/GC). If you don't know much about the character, read up on him first, and then post. Use logic please.

More precise question: Could Iceman survive Fire Leo-AKA, the Inferno Lord-tackling him to the ground and then pinning him down?

Use logic, read up on the character.

#2 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"Yes."

Care to state why?

#3 Posted by The_MVPs (84695 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes.

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#4 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"Cause he can survive in different forms. He could melt and still be alive."

This entire thread is a test. Do you know who Fire Leo is?

#5 Posted by The_MVPs (84695 posts) - - Show Bio

Cause he can survive in different forms. He could melt and still be alive.

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#6 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

yeah sparda, he'd turn into steam and then just float away still alive.

#7 Posted by The_MVPs (84695 posts) - - Show Bio

Sparda says:

"Gambler says:
"Cause he can survive in different forms. He could melt and still be alive."

This entire thread is a test. Do you know who Fire Leo is?"

Doesn't matter.

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#8 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"Sparda says:
"Gambler says:
"Cause he can survive in different forms. He could melt and still be alive."

This entire thread is a test. Do you know who Fire Leo is?"

Doesn't matter. "

His body temperature is 8 Trillion degrees.

Iceman can survive 8 Trillion degrees on top of him?

#9 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

Sparda says:

"Gambler says:
"Cause he can survive in different forms. He could melt and still be alive."
This entire thread is a test. Do you know who Fire Leo is?"

yeah he's that guy... from viewtiful joe... you know the inferno lord... who gets all hot and stuff....

#10 Posted by The_MVPs (84695 posts) - - Show Bio

Sparda says:

"Gambler says:
"Sparda says:
"Gambler says:
"Cause he can survive in different forms. He could melt and still be alive."

This entire thread is a test. Do you know who Fire Leo is?"

Doesn't matter. "

His body temperature is 8 Trillion degrees.

Iceman can survive 8 Trillion degrees on top of him?"

Yes, are you not listening? He doesn't need his body to survive. In Ice Form, if he were to be melted down, he could transport his consciousness to any other form of ice, water, steam, so on and so on.

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#11 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

Sparda says:

"Gambler says:
"Sparda says:
"Gambler says:
"Cause he can survive in different forms. He could melt and still be alive."
This entire thread is a test. Do you know who Fire Leo is?"
Doesn't matter. "
His body temperature is 8 Trillion degrees. Iceman can survive 8 Trillion degrees on top of him?"

unless temperatures that hot will destroy steam then iceman should be just fine.

#12 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"Sparda says:
"Gambler says:
"Sparda says:
"Gambler says:
"Cause he can survive in different forms. He could melt and still be alive."

This entire thread is a test. Do you know who Fire Leo is?"

Doesn't matter. "

His body temperature is 8 Trillion degrees.

Iceman can survive 8 Trillion degrees on top of him?"

Yes, are you not listening? He doesn't need his body to survive. In Ice Form, if he were to be melted down, he could transport his consciousness to any other form of ice, water, steam, so on and so on."

This idea was made from Methos saying that Iceman couldn't survive a supernova, which is approximately a billion degrees.

#13 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

Sparda says:

"This idea was made from Methos saying that Iceman couldn't survive a supernova, which is approximately a billion degrees."

misnomer...

it's not actually the temperature that would destroy him, it's the quantum nature of Plasma that would kill iceman...

i don't know who the Inferno Lord is, or if his powers are flame or plasma based... so i can't comment

M

#14 Posted by The_MVPs (84695 posts) - - Show Bio

Post Deleted.

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#15 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

Apparition says:

"Sparda says:
"Gambler says:
"Sparda says:
"Gambler says:
"Cause he can survive in different forms. He could melt and still be alive."
This entire thread is a test. Do you know who Fire Leo is?"
Doesn't matter. "
His body temperature is 8 Trillion degrees. Iceman can survive 8 Trillion degrees on top of him?"

unless temperatures that hot will destroy steam then iceman should be just fine."

I'm not doing this to beat up Iceman or anything, I'm just seeing what people think about Iceman and their different views, is all. Some people have said that Iceman would die from a supernova-a heckuva lot colder than 8 Trillion degrees, while others think differently. Fire Leo himself doesn't really matter, just me seeing people's different thinking about Iceman.

And that's my lengthy and somewhat pointless explanation of this thread.

#16 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"I think he's wrong about that. He doesn't have to survive in just steam either. In the Children of the Vault he was completely melted and gone for a couple days. He was actually living in the water inside this fire guys body, building up strength until he simply free'd himself freezing the guy instantly extinguishing his flame."

ugh... i must have worded my explanation wrong...

it's not heat that would kill Iceman, it's the plasma that Human Torch generates... that would kill him, not the actual heat of the explosion...

people just took what i was saying the wrong way, temperature and plasma are completely different things...

M

#17 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

Methos says:

"Sparda says:
"This idea was made from Methos saying that Iceman couldn't survive a supernova, which is approximately a billion degrees."

misnomer...

it's not actually the temperature that would destroy him, it's the quantum nature of Plasma that would kill iceman...

i don't know who the Inferno Lord is, or if his powers are flame or plasma based... so i can't comment

M

"

I don't exactly now how Fire Leo's powers are based-mainly because Viewtiful Joe doesn't really go into it, the game is meant as a parody of certain things, hence the ridiculously high heat of Leo's body-just that his body is high leveled, and that oddly, the only thing that can put it out is even hotter substances.

#18 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

no idea then...

the character just sounds stupid to be honest lol

M

#19 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

Methos says:

"no idea then...the character just sounds stupid to be honest lolM"

Believe me......the game isn't supposed to make sense.....

#20 Posted by Phorqe (2109 posts) - - Show Bio

Iceman would punch these clowns in the face and smite them to the ground. After which, we would make them write a three page essay on why they suck so hard and mail them to their moms. ICEMAN WINS!

#21 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

Phorqe says:

"Iceman would punch these clowns in the face and smite them to the ground. After which, we would make them write a three page essay on why they suck so hard and mail them to their moms. ICEMAN WINS!
"

Viewtiful Joe freaking rocks buddy, so if there's ever going to be a three page essay on something that sucks....it'd be you.

#22 Posted by Phorqe (2109 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow, that was clever. You came up with that all by yourself? You took what I said, and then turned it around on me. That is clever. Very, very clever.

#23 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

Phorqe says:

"Wow, that was clever. You came up with that all by yourself? You took what I said, and then turned it around on me. That is clever. Very, very clever."

That impressed you? Wow, I wasn't really trying. Hey, simple minds and all that jazz....

#24 Posted by Phorqe (2109 posts) - - Show Bio

Your words are right up their with Shakespeare and Socrates. Be proud.

#25 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

wanders through the thread and starts choking

Cant... breathe... air... too thick... with... sarcasm...

passes out on the floor

M

#26 Posted by Phorqe (2109 posts) - - Show Bio

Methos says:

"***wanders through the thread and starts choking***Cant... breathe... air... too thick... with... sarcasm...***passes out on the floor***M"

Are you sure it's not from the scotch and the aspirin?

#27 Posted by White Mage (18740 posts) - - Show Bio

Methos says:

"***wanders through the thread and starts choking*** Cant... breathe... air... too thick... with... sarcasm... ***passes out on the floor*** M"
LMAO!
#28 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

Phorqe says:

"Your words are right up their with Shakespeare and Socrates. Be proud."

Thank you. It's all too easy.

Although someone should really help Methos out. CPR? If so, I think you'd like to do the mouth-to-mouth.....

(You do realize that this is all in good fun, right?)
Post Edited:2007-12-02 22:45:03

#29 Posted by Phorqe (2109 posts) - - Show Bio

Uh, yeah, if you want to graduate from college.

#30 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

Sparda says:

"Phorqe says:
"Iceman would punch these clowns in the face and smite them to the ground. After which, we would make them write a three page essay on why they suck so hard and mail them to their moms. ICEMAN WINS!
"
Viewtiful Joe freaking rocks buddy, so if there's ever going to be a three page essay on something that sucks....it'd be you."

does there really have to be a three page essay on anything???

#31 Posted by Phorqe (2109 posts) - - Show Bio

Senior Thesis or just an annoying English requirement?

#32 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

Apparition says:

"Sparda says:
"Phorqe says:
"Iceman would punch these clowns in the face and smite them to the ground. After which, we would make them write a three page essay on why they suck so hard and mail them to their moms. ICEMAN WINS!
"
Viewtiful Joe freaking rocks buddy, so if there's ever going to be a three page essay on something that sucks....it'd be you."

does there really have to be a three page essay on anything???"

No, you're right. A seven page essay it is!

#33 Posted by The_MVPs (84695 posts) - - Show Bio

Apparition says:

"Sparda says:
"Phorqe says:
"Iceman would punch these clowns in the face and smite them to the ground. After which, we would make them write a three page essay on why they suck so hard and mail them to their moms. ICEMAN WINS!
"
Viewtiful Joe freaking rocks buddy, so if there's ever going to be a three page essay on something that sucks....it'd be you."

does there really have to be a three page essay on anything???"

Whatever Apple is saying, I agree with it :P

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#34 Posted by White Mage (18740 posts) - - Show Bio

Apparition says:

"Sparda says:
"Phorqe says:
"Iceman would punch these clowns in the face and smite them to the ground. After which, we would make them write a three page essay on why they suck so hard and mail them to their moms. ICEMAN WINS!
"
Viewtiful Joe freaking rocks buddy, so if there's ever going to be a three page essay on something that sucks....it'd be you."
does there really have to be a three page essay on anything???"

I COMPLETELY agree with you. LOL

@Sparda: Being gay, I have to tell you, that's one of the WORST jokes I've EVER heard!

The following LOL is NOT intended for Sparda's comment

LOL

#35 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

Phorqe says:

"Uh, yeah, if you want to graduate from college."

If you want to graduate from high school, where I am....

#36 Posted by White Mage (18740 posts) - - Show Bio

Sparda says:

"Phorqe says:
"Senior Thesis or just an annoying English requirement?"
Just an annoying requirement. @White Mage: Meh, I try. I don't normally make gay jokes anyway."
You don't say! LMAO!
#37 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

Phorqe says:

"Senior Thesis or just an annoying English requirement?"

Just an annoying requirement.

@White Mage: Meh, I try. I don't normally make gay jokes anyway.

#38 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

White Mage says:

"Sparda says:
"Phorqe says:
"Senior Thesis or just an annoying English requirement?"
Just an annoying requirement. @White Mage: Meh, I try. I don't normally make gay jokes anyway."
You don't say! LMAO!"

Oh god.....you're not gonna start taking the 3rd gay joke I've ever made on this site personally now, are you?

#39 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

White Mage says:

"Sparda says:
"White Mage says:
"Sparda says:
"Phorqe says:
"Senior Thesis or just an annoying English requirement?"
Just an annoying requirement. @White Mage: Meh, I try. I don't normally make gay jokes anyway."
You don't say! LMAO! "
Oh god.....you're not gonna start taking the 3rd gay joke I've ever made on this site personally now, are you?"
I don't take them personally. Some of them are actually quite funny. LOL Yours wasn't. LOL"

Meh, my jokes are hit and miss.

It's good that you don't take jokes about things that can be related to you personally. Too often have I seen people freak out cause they heard (not from me) fat jokes, or whatnot. People need to lighten up.

Now, insulting, that's different.

#40 Posted by White Mage (18740 posts) - - Show Bio

Sparda says:

"White Mage says:
"Sparda says:
"Phorqe says:
"Senior Thesis or just an annoying English requirement?"
Just an annoying requirement. @White Mage: Meh, I try. I don't normally make gay jokes anyway."
You don't say! LMAO! "
Oh god.....you're not gonna start taking the 3rd gay joke I've ever made on this site personally now, are you?"
I don't take them personally. Some of them are actually quite funny. LOL Yours wasn't. LOL
#41 Posted by White Mage (18740 posts) - - Show Bio

Sparda says:

"White Mage says:
"Sparda says:
"White Mage says:
"Sparda says:
"Phorqe says:
"Senior Thesis or just an annoying English requirement?"
Just an annoying requirement. @White Mage: Meh, I try. I don't normally make gay jokes anyway."
You don't say! LMAO! "
Oh god.....you're not gonna start taking the 3rd gay joke I've ever made on this site personally now, are you?"
I don't take them personally. Some of them are actually quite funny. LOL Yours wasn't. LOL "
Meh, my jokes are hit and miss. It's good that you don't take jokes about things that can be related to you personally. Too often have I seen people freak out cause they heard (not from me) fat jokes, or whatnot. People need to lighten up. Now, insulting, that's different."
Are you kidding? Being uptight sucks.
#42 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

White Mage says:

"Sparda says:
"White Mage says:
"Sparda says:
"White Mage says:
"Sparda says:
"Phorqe says:
"Senior Thesis or just an annoying English requirement?"
Just an annoying requirement. @White Mage: Meh, I try. I don't normally make gay jokes anyway."
You don't say! LMAO! "
Oh god.....you're not gonna start taking the 3rd gay joke I've ever made on this site personally now, are you?"
I don't take them personally. Some of them are actually quite funny. LOL Yours wasn't. LOL "
Meh, my jokes are hit and miss. It's good that you don't take jokes about things that can be related to you personally. Too often have I seen people freak out cause they heard (not from me) fat jokes, or whatnot. People need to lighten up. Now, insulting, that's different."
Are you kidding? Being uptight sucks."

People who are uptight suck to be around.

Glances over to his little brother who's sitting beside him

Seriously, as I'm typing this, he's trying to strangle me!

Gaack!

#43 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

Sparda says:

"No, you're right. A seven page essay it is!"

Gambler says:

"Whatever Apple is saying, I agree with it :P"

White Mage says:

"I COMPLETELY agree with you. LOL @Sparda: Being gay, I have to tell you, that's one of the WORST jokes I've EVER heard! *The following LOL is NOT intended for Sparda's comment* LOL "

lol

Phorqe says:

"Uh, yeah, if you want to graduate from college."

well fine then :(

#44 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

Methos says:

"Sparda says:
"This idea was made from Methos saying that Iceman couldn't survive a supernova, which is approximately a billion degrees."
misnomer... it's not actually the temperature that would destroy him, it's the quantum nature of Plasma that would kill iceman... i don't know who the Inferno Lord is, or if his powers are flame or plasma based... so i can't comment M "

I think icy can survive.

#45 Posted by Firey Temper (40 posts) - - Show Bio

are you aware Sparda that you just contrdicted yourself you said this thread wasn't about beating up on Ice Man yet you can't bear the thought of your hero loosing not good you should re write this thread as I like so and so for the following reasons

#46 Posted by The Iron Cavalier (231 posts) - - Show Bio

Doesn't matter. Character is stupid. End.

#47 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

Firey Temper says:

"are you aware Sparda that you just contrdicted yourself you said this thread wasn't about beating up on Ice Man yet you can't bear the thought of your hero loosing not good you should re write this thread as I like so and so for the following reasons"

Um, what?

Fire Leo loses....end of deal. When did I even care if he won or lost? I said that I waas trying to see different people's thoughts and theories on how far Iceman could go in relation to what Methos said in another thread, which I took the wrong way. God almighty man.

And yes, I like the game.....doesn't mean I like the character.

@Cavalier: Can we get off the topic of the character? God, I should've just said: "Guy with X Temperature".

#48 Edited by Thikr (3 posts) - - Show Bio

Theoretically, Iceman could survive any temperature up to Nuclear Fusion temps, and possibly beyond. The decomposition of water -enough to kill Iceman that is- would be several thousand *C. The water molecules in his body would just reach equilibrium at a certain point unless you had a theoretically infinite amount of heat. Besides, if I am correct, Iceman has CONTROL over heat, therefore meaning that unless Iceman completely decomposes before his reaction time kicks in, he would be able to disperse or at least redirect a lot of the heat from Fire Leo to another location and disperse the heat around his own body allowing him to refreeze. Uhhh... someone more educated than me, help?

#49 Posted by HellionVulcan (3806 posts) - - Show Bio

Iceman would survive as mist or even take the moisturize outta his body & kill him internally or something crazy .

#50 Posted by Silavite (56 posts) - - Show Bio

@Thikr said:

Theoretically, Iceman could survive any temperature up to Nuclear Fusion temps, and possibly beyond. The decomposition of water -enough to kill Iceman that is- would be several thousand *C. The water molecules in his body would just reach equilibrium at a certain point unless you had a theoretically infinite amount of heat. Besides, if I am correct, Iceman has CONTROL over heat, therefore meaning that unless Iceman completely decomposes before his reaction time kicks in, he would be able to disperse or at least redirect a lot of the heat from Fire Leo to another location and disperse the heat around his own body allowing him to refreeze. Uhhh... someone more educated than me, help?

This is 100% true. Unless you could raise his temperature up to the point where water would molecularly decompose before he could react... Iceman would live.

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