Should King Hyperion be given his own page?

#1 Posted by King Hyperion (3708 posts) - - Show Bio

While Earth-4023's King Hyperion is technically an alternate version of Hyperion, the two are nothing alike. They never have been. It's sort of like comparing Supergirl to Power Girl. While they are in essence the same person they are also two entirely different people who have led dramatically different lives, have completely different personalities and don't even resemble one another in the slightest.

Sure King Hyperion initially looked like Hyperion when we first saw him but that was the only thing he had in common with his other self and by his second appearance that ship had sailed. I am addressing this issue because I really think that, in my opinion, King Hyperion should be given his own page and be considered a separate entity. I was planning on making the page but I wanted to get your guys' opinion on the matter first before I even think of beginning the process of creating a separate page dedicated solely to King Hyperion.

#2 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio

He's a different character in a whole sense.

He deserves one yes

#3 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

Does every variation on a character seen in Exiles deserve their own page as well? A section on Hyperion's main page seems sufficient to me. Especially since 616 Hyperion isn't even one of the better-known Hyperions.

#4 Posted by Emperor Gonzo Noir (19714 posts) - - Show Bio

If you want him to have a page make it

#5 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio
@Emperor Gonzo Noir said:
" If you want him to have a page make it "
He already did.
#6 Edited by King Hyperion (3708 posts) - - Show Bio
Yes, I did and I think my reasons for doing so were valid. But concerning your earlier question no, I do not think every version of Hyperion should have his own page. Just King Hyperion due to the fact that he has absolutely no similarities to the other versions. He didn't fall out of the sky in a rocket ship as a baby (so far as we know), there was no Squadron Supreme on his world, there are no fake cities inspired by DC Universe Locations in his world. He's a totally different person from all the other Hyperions including The Supreme Power Version who is more or less an upgraded and re-imagined version of the original Earth-712 Hyperion. If you look at the differences you can easily tell that Hyperion and King Hyperion are exactly like Supergirl and Power Girl. They are two versions of the same person but only in essence. Other than that they are not the same person.
#7 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

Hey, you put in a ton of work obviously, and the page is great. I'm not saying you should take it down, I just wouldn't have advocated the page to begin with. As to the degree of difference in his character, and the validity of him having his own page, that's obviously for the staff to decide (if they didn't already).

#8 Posted by King Hyperion (3708 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanks for the compliment, I just hope the staff doesn't take it down.

#9 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio

No more than say AoA Magneto or Exiles Mimic.

That being said, I think alternate universe characters with multiple appearances should get their own pages.

#10 Posted by PowerHerc (81623 posts) - - Show Bio

Yep.
#11 Posted by Mercy_ (92558 posts) - - Show Bio
@PowerHerc: ........He has his own page. 
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#12 Posted by jloneblackheart (5496 posts) - - Show Bio
@PowerHerc said:
" Yep. "
Tardy to the party? :P
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#13 Posted by Mercy_ (92558 posts) - - Show Bio
@jloneblackheart: Hehe. Posted at the same time. :P
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#14 Posted by PowerHerc (81623 posts) - - Show Bio
@jloneblackheart said:
" @PowerHerc said:
" Yep. "
Tardy to the party? :P "
Yep again.
@The Dark Huntress:
Thanks.
#15 Posted by Vance Astro (91117 posts) - - Show Bio

No Alternate Version of any character has their own page so why would King Hyperion?

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#16 Posted by Mercy_ (92558 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:
" No Alternate Version of any character has their own page so why would King Hyperion? "
That's not true. 
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#17 Posted by PowerHerc (81623 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress said:
" @PowerHerc: ........He has his own page.  "

Thanks, again.  I meant to quote you the first time, but didn't.
#18 Edited by Vance Astro (91117 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress said:

" @Vance Astro said:

" No Alternate Version of any character has their own page so why would King Hyperion? "
That's not true.  "
What character has alternate versions with other pages?
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#19 Posted by Mercy_ (92558 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro
@The Dark Huntress said:

" @Vance Astro said:

" No Alternate Version of any character has their own page so why would King Hyperion? "
That's not true.  "
What character has alternate versions with other pages?
All of the 2099 characters do. I'm sure there are others, as well.
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#20 Posted by Vance Astro (91117 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress said:
" @Vance Astro
@The Dark Huntress said:

" @Vance Astro said:

" No Alternate Version of any character has their own page so why would King Hyperion? "
That's not true.  "
What character has alternate versions with other pages?
All of the 2099 characters do. I'm sure there are others, as well. "
 
Alot of 2099 characters don't share the same identity so that actually makes sense.2099 Spider-Man is Miguel,2099 DD is Richard Fisk and so on and so on. Earth-S,Supreme Power and King Hyperion are all Mark Milton.
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#21 Posted by brc2000 (1679 posts) - - Show Bio

I think if two versions of the same character exist in the same universe they should have separate pages. It's the same way we have separate pages for New Earth Superman, Superman Prime and Earth-2 Superman.

#22 Posted by Vance Astro (91117 posts) - - Show Bio
@brc2000 said:
"I think if two versions of the same character exist in the same universe they should have separate pages. It's the same way we have separate pages for New Earth Superman, Superman Prime and Earth-2 Superman. "

Earth 616 Hyperion is dead if i'm not mistaken.I assumed that Prime and Earth-2 Supes were only seperated from the original because they've appeared in comics together.So they were seperated for the purpose of distinguishing different Supermen within one comic.Earth-616 Hyperion and King Hyperion will probably never appear in the same comic.
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#23 Posted by Jake Fury (18120 posts) - - Show Bio

Kingdom Come Superman has his own page but he actually stayed with the JSA in mainstream continuity for several issues.
#24 Posted by Vance Astro (91117 posts) - - Show Bio
@Jake Fury said:
"Kingdom Come Superman has his own page but he actually stayed with the JSA in mainstream continuity for several issues. "

Right, and Superman appeared in an issue or two with him so Kingdom Come Superman has his own page to distinguish two of the same character appearing in one book.
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#25 Posted by Jake Fury (18120 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:
"@Jake Fury said:
"Kingdom Come Superman has his own page but he actually stayed with the JSA in mainstream continuity for several issues. "
Right, and Superman appeared in an issue or two with him so Kingdom Come Superman has his own page to distinguish two of the same character appearing in one book. "

Exactly. Personally I don't think King Hyperion needs his own page. If you do that then you'd have to logically give the Ultimate characters their own page as well. They've been in far more relevant story arcs. (Of course that sets up another argument as well)
#26 Posted by brc2000 (1679 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know much about King Hyperion to be honest, but if they haven't appeared in the same universe at the same time then I agree. 

#27 Posted by Jake Fury (18120 posts) - - Show Bio
@brc2000:
If I'm not mistaken his only appearance in 616 was recently against Blue Marvel.
#28 Posted by brc2000 (1679 posts) - - Show Bio

Apparently he's going to appear in the Thunderbolts.

#29 Posted by Kairan1979 (16711 posts) - - Show Bio
@brc2000:
that's not going to last long. Two issues, and he is out.

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