Johnny Storm To Be Played By a Black Actor?

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#1 Edited by novi_homines (1330 posts) - - Show Bio

Seems like it.

According to insiders, 20th Century Fox and the film’s director, Josh Trank, are looking at Michael B. Jordan – who played one of the three leads in Trank’s breakout Chronicle - to portray Johnny Storm, a.k.a. Human Torch. The Wrap says its received this tipoff from “numerous individuals familiar with the project,” and Jordan’s chances of landing the Human Torch role depend partly on how much chemistry he has with other actors in consideration. We learned earlier this week that Allison Williams (Girls) is shortlisted to play Susan Storm, a.k.a. the Invisible Woman, in the superhero flick; however, Jordan is reported to have had several meetings with studio executives over the past week (meaning, he may be a more serious candidate to sign on, for the time being). Link

Thoughts?

#2 Posted by novi_homines (1330 posts) - - Show Bio

I will say that I really liked him in Chronicle. He was similar to the johnny storm persona in that movie so I could see it work from an acting standpoint. I'm just thinking now if they're going to make Sue storm black as well, they're brother and sister after all...

#3 Posted by fodigg (6146 posts) - - Show Bio

I have no problem with this. Or any casting decision that makes superhero casts more inclusive.

#4 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32733 posts) - - Show Bio

that would be.... really weird

#5 Posted by AweSam (7373 posts) - - Show Bio

If this is true, then...

#6 Edited by JonSmith (3988 posts) - - Show Bio

Why can't we get the guy who played Green Arrow in Smallville? Justin Hartley? I think he'd make a great Johnny Storm.

#7 Posted by novi_homines (1330 posts) - - Show Bio

I think that if they're going to make storm white or black, the sister better match. No need to have one "adopted" or something like that. Totally unnecessary.

#8 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32733 posts) - - Show Bio

@fodigg: What would be your thoughts if they cast Naveen Andrews as Black Panther?

#9 Posted by KnightRise (4785 posts) - - Show Bio

INB4 cynics, critics, and whiners

#10 Edited by BlueLantern1995 (2448 posts) - - Show Bio

This is totally wrong...totally.

#11 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32733 posts) - - Show Bio

INB4 cynics, critics, and whiners

to late

#12 Posted by Xwraith (15318 posts) - - Show Bio

If this is only for the sake of diversity, I hope they don't do it.

#13 Posted by RustyRoy (10940 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow, making white characters black is the new tradition in Hollywood!

#14 Edited by novi_homines (1330 posts) - - Show Bio

#15 Edited by The_Tree (7216 posts) - - Show Bio

I do not like this at all.

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#16 Posted by RustyRoy (10940 posts) - - Show Bio

@rustyroy said:

Wow, making white characters black is the new tradition in Hollywood!

I meant trend.

#17 Posted by MatKrenz (1233 posts) - - Show Bio

If Johnny Storm is black doesn't that mean that Sue will also be black ? Seems weird to mention one and not the other.

#18 Posted by KnightRise (4785 posts) - - Show Bio
#19 Posted by Oscars94 (2325 posts) - - Show Bio

I hate this! It's like having The Black Panther played by a white guy! It doesn't work.

#20 Posted by End_Boss (725 posts) - - Show Bio

I liked him in Chronicle. Was surprised that movie didn't generate more discussion... Was clearly a superhero flick.

Still, though, his character wasn't much like Johnny in that movie. Too responsible, not enough "pizzaz."

#21 Edited by evilvegeta74 (4521 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't believe this one bit, no one should! Oh yeah, Samuel Jacksons is gonna play the new Red Skull," Mother F**%e* " I'm a Nazi, we do it like this!

#22 Edited by novi_homines (1330 posts) - - Show Bio

@oscars94 said:

I hate this! It's like having The Black Panther played by a white guy! It doesn't work.

You could've chosen just about ANY other black character, and that analogy would work. But it doesn't work with BP, he's a african king of an African nation. lol.

#23 Posted by novi_homines (1330 posts) - - Show Bio

I do agree that there is a line to be drawn though. Nick Fury turned out very well, jamie foxx as electro still remains to be seen, and now this guy. I understand the intentions, but don't necessarily agree with the way its being panned out. I would rather them build NEW black characters or use old ones, and integrate them in major roles of team books while also having their own series. Cyborg in the justice league, and black panther leading the new avengers is a start. Then once they rise in popularity, bring them along in the movies. That's the way I would do it.

#24 Posted by fodigg (6146 posts) - - Show Bio

@fodigg: What would be your thoughts if they cast Naveen Andrews as Black Panther?

"Great that he's getting more work but ridiculous that they're taking away one of the few roles for black actors to do so, as if you can only serve underrepresented groups by screwing over other underrepresented groups. SMH."

Swapping around different racial minorities isn't more inclusive, and is all the more irritating because comes with the implication that all minorities are the same. But increasing diversity is a worthy goal and will lead to a better, more inclusive final product.

#25 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32733 posts) - - Show Bio

@oscars94 said:

I hate this! It's like having The Black Panther played by a white guy! It doesn't work.

You could've chosen just about ANY other black character, and that analogy would work. But it doesn't work with BP, he's a african king of an African nation. lol.

There is such a thing as white africans

#26 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29499 posts) - - Show Bio

I have no f*cks to give. Absolutely none.

#27 Posted by Yung ANcient One (4601 posts) - - Show Bio

Of all the "black" magneto's, Wolverine, spider-man, batman, superman, and et cetera, I think this is an AWEsome idea. He would be like Hotspot.

I don't know if they have to make Sue black too, but if they do it should be

Kerry Washington

or

Gabrielle Union

or

Sanaa Lathan

or

Meagan Good

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#28 Edited by mtrakos (563 posts) - - Show Bio

They said this same thing a few years ago. "will smith as steve rogers" I doubt it. A young black male playing the role as an arrogant hot tempered hero? A sister..pun intended, a sister that hooks up with a white doctor? Yeah dont think that sterotype would go over well.

#29 Edited by Mortium (666 posts) - - Show Bio

I think they should stick to more originals. If it is just to be fair, then there are plenty of black comic characters that would make a great movie( really hoping for a Black Panther movie, that would be AWESOME.) The only exception, IMO, was casting Samuel Jackson as Nick Fury.

#30 Edited by Saranth (73 posts) - - Show Bio

As much as I think Michael B. Jordan would make a wonderful Johnny Storm, I would much rather that they then cast a black actress to play Sue, too. Given that the word on the street is that Girls star Allison Williams is the front-runner to play Sue, one of them would have to be adopted, or they'd have to be half-siblings. That might impact upon the family dynamic of the Fantastic Four.

#31 Posted by Mild_Karl (131 posts) - - Show Bio

@oscars94 said:

I hate this! It's like having The Black Panther played by a white guy! It doesn't work.

Black Panther's race is directly tied to his character (I mean, he's the Black Panther), so it's understandable in that case that he should be played by a black male.

Johnny Storm has always been depicted as a white male, but the Johnny Storm character transcends race entirely, which is why I'm interested in this possible casting & why I was all for Donald Glover as Spider-Man back when the reboot was barely in pre-production.

#32 Posted by czechoslovakia (93 posts) - - Show Bio

very good. there's too many beige and basic white people in hollywood

#33 Posted by BlueLantern1995 (2448 posts) - - Show Bio

Next thing you know Batman will be a black guy(people are actually talking about doing that if you can believe it).

#34 Posted by JamesKM716 (1992 posts) - - Show Bio

THe only thing that really bothers me about this, is how it'll affect Sue's casting; especially since it was already rumored that a girl from New Girls will be casted. She's white, Jordan's black....

#35 Posted by NorrinBoltagonPrime21 (5500 posts) - - Show Bio

The only problem is how sue is going to turn out. It might be a bit weird having them look completely different but don't expect the audience isn't going to find it very weird. I also find it funny how its good to make a white character black but its racist if you make a black character white.

#36 Edited by BlueLantern1995 (2448 posts) - - Show Bio

Hey since Johnny will be black and Sue White. What about the Chinese? They need one too! I vote for Mr. Fantastic being the Chinese guy myself. And we also have the American Indians! Everyone forgets them, We still have the Thing, so lets make him a American Indian!

#37 Posted by Oscars94 (2325 posts) - - Show Bio

@novi_homines: Dammit you're right! Ok how about Luke Cage being played by a white character? I don't think all changes are bad though. I think Jamie Foxx was an excellent choice for Electro and Idris Elba gave an excellent portrayal of Volstagg

#38 Edited by BlueLantern1995 (2448 posts) - - Show Bio

@oscars94: You mean Heimdall not Volstagg right? Because last I checked Volstagg was a white character.

#39 Posted by TDK_1997 (14456 posts) - - Show Bio

How will Johnny be black and Susan will be white?That doesn't make any sense!

#40 Edited by dave17 (61 posts) - - Show Bio

Main problem with this is while Johnny Storm isn't defined my his race/looks Sue is has always been, to my mind at least, a very attractive blonde. You making him adopted/half-brother could disconnect them as characters

#41 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32733 posts) - - Show Bio

@oscars94 said:

@novi_homines: Dammit you're right! Ok how about Luke Cage being played by a white character? I don't think all changes are bad though. I think Jamie Foxx was an excellent choice for Electro and Idris Elba gave an excellent portrayal of Volstagg

Heimdall

#42 Posted by therrieur (245 posts) - - Show Bio

Why not having all the fantastic four black? But seriously, I would prefer having Johnny as an adopted black brother than having Sue played by the first black actress they cast, and adopted brothers and sisters often have the same chemistry that blood-brothers-sisters do.

#43 Posted by NorrinBoltagonPrime21 (5500 posts) - - Show Bio

@bluelantern1995: They could have wyatt wingfoot in the movie because he is american indian. That means Thing could mexican and more diversity!!!!Everybody Wins!!! This movie could be the most diverse and bestest ever for being so diverse!! Yay!

#44 Edited by BlueLantern1995 (2448 posts) - - Show Bio

@norrinboltagonprime21 that's great! Why didn't I think of that! Oh and what about the Arabics! We need to fit them in somewhere. How about they have the Villain be Arabic! But wait that would cause problems...hmm. How about we switch Thing to Arabic and have the villain be Mexican! This could work!

#45 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32733 posts) - - Show Bio

@bluelantern1995: They could have wyatt wingfoot in the movie because he is american indian. That means Thing could mexican and more diversity!!!!Everybody Wins!!! This movie could be the most diverse and bestest ever for being so diverse!! Yay!

As long as they make Dr Doom Scottish

#46 Posted by Fallen_Crippled (6436 posts) - - Show Bio

Leave them white. Forget diversity. You cant have the brother black and the sister white.

#47 Posted by WaveMotionCannon (5165 posts) - - Show Bio

#13 Posted by RustyRoy (800 posts) - 1 hour, 33 minutes ago - Show Bio

Wow, making white characters black is the new tradition in Hollywood!

As opposed to all the years Hollywood whitewashed movies ?

I'm not feeling this idea though.

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#48 Posted by Veshark (9058 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, no.

Aside from the implications towards Sue Storm, I don't like to change the ethnicity of such a major character. I was fine with Heimdall because he's a minor supporting character, and Nick Fury because it's the Ultimate incarnation (and because it's Samuel L. Jackson), but Johnny Storm should be white in my book. I'm not even white, but that's the Johnny Storm I know. I'm sure this fellow here would do a good job at the role, given the chance, but yeah.

#49 Posted by ArturoCalaKayVee (11107 posts) - - Show Bio

It's typical hollywood trying to be diverse. That's all it is. If you want black superheroes on the big screen, then make black superhero MOVIES! I would love to see a Black Panther or a Falcon movie. No need to change the race of an established character.

And I just want to note that IF they do make Johnny Storm black in the reboot, expect Marvel U to make him black somehow in the comics. You know it's coming. Movie U dictates all of Marvel U.

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