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    Character » Hulk appears in 7771 issues.

    After being bombarded with a massive dose of gamma radiation while saving a young man's life during an experimental bomb testing, Dr. Robert Bruce Banner was transformed into the Incredible Hulk: a green behemoth who is the living personification of rage and pure physical strength.

    Why the sun isn't a good idea

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    #1  Edited By Silavite

    I've been looking at some Hulk vs. Superman, Hulk vs. other-god-superhero threads lately, and alot of people just seem to say "Oh, Superman would just throw Hulk in to the sun, boom, end of story." This would NOT work. The Hulk has survived incredibly high temperatures, so the sun should be survivable (not sure of the exact cap, would be nice if someone would post it). More importantly; the sun world just make him stronger, and bigger, and stronger, and bigger! How? The sun gets its energy from nuclear fusion, the energy we see as light is only a fraction of the energy produced in the suns core, since the Earth is less than 1 square degree wide in the suns 'sphere of light' and also, light is only an infinitesimal speck on the electromagnetic spectrum. Anyway, as the Hulk gets closer to the sun's core, the radiation will increase, and when the Hulk absorbs radiation, he gets stronger, and I think his physical size also increases. The sun will emit tons of radiation, so it's possible that Hulk could become comparable to the size of planets?? I dunno, that last part was just a hypothesis, but still, my point is: SUN = AIN'T GONNA WORK

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    #2  Edited By MrShway88

    Never thought of it that way. But does Hulk only get stronger with Gamma radiation or any type of radiation and does the sun produce gamma radiation as well?

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    #3  Edited By Silavite

    Yes, the sun produces all types of electromagnetic radiation, and the closer you get to the core, the higher the ratio of All Electromagnetic Radiation:Gamma Rays. The reason for this (I watch the science channel wayyyy too much) is because the fusing of Hydrogen in the center of the sun has such a potent amount of energy, so the reactions produce Gamma Rays. However; in the Radiation and Convection layer of the sun the rays bounce from atom to atom, losing energy as they go. Some stay as Gamma, but most decay and even out into a generally well rounded variety of the magnetic spectrum, from Gamma to radio waves.

    As for your question about the Hulk getting energy, I dunno. It might only be Gamma Rays but I honestly dunno.

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    Exactly. In WWH it was stated that nukes would make Hulk stronger so the Sun would do the same. I've been saying this in battles for ages.

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    #5  Edited By Vrakmul

    But how does Hulk get back to the Earth exactly?

    Also, I'm pretty sure just being constantly burned by the sun would piss the Hulk off something fierce.

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    #6  Edited By Biza

    All radiation is essentially potential Gamma Radiation. There is more power In a 1 second Gamma Ray burst than the suns entire 10 billion year lifespan. Gamma radiation is a good read, check it out. Part of the reason I like the Hulk, I wish the writers would read up on GRBs.

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    #7  Edited By soduh2

    @Vrakmul said:

    But how does Hulk get back to the Earth exactly?

    Also, I'm pretty sure just being constantly burned by the sun would piss the Hulk off something fierce.

    Agreed

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    #8  Edited By The_Peter_Cosmic

    Still, even if everything you say is true, Hulk has no way of overcoming the suns gravity so he basically gets to be in agony for all of time.

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    #9  Edited By JonSmith

    @The_Peter_Cosmic: If the OPs hypothesis is correct and Hulk DOES get larger as well as stronger, wouldn't he eventually get so big since he's caught in that gravity and constantly absorbing more and more gamma rays that he'd just get big enough that it's pull would be nothing?

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    #10  Edited By Rumble Man

    Well until the sun supernovas and then turns into black hole

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    #11  Edited By The_Peter_Cosmic

    @JonSmith: Hulk can't fly and I don't see him having much luck trying to jump off plasma and gas with enough force to clear the sun's gravitational pull.

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    #12  Edited By JonSmith

    @The_Peter_Cosmic: No, I mean if the OP's theory is correct, wouldn't he eventually grow so huge from the constant gamma radiation exposure that the sun would be minuscule in comparison? Granted, he'd still need to push off something, but by that point he should just be able to reach over and wrap his hand around a planet to pull himself along.

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    #13  Edited By The_Peter_Cosmic

    @JonSmith: There's a lot of reasons why that doesn't make sense. First of all, why would he dwarf the sun in the first place? The sun has a finite amount of energy/mass so it wouldn't make sense that Hulk could get any bigger than himself plus the sun. In actuality he'd probably be much smaller because his body is much denser than gas. Second of all, there is a lot more empty space in the solar system then you are thinking. Even if he were many, many times bigger than the sun he would still be nowhere near a planet. Thirdly, if he actually could reach a planet his mass would be so much bigger than said planet that it would be like a human trying to climb up in the air by grabbing on to a fly. He wouldn't be able to climb on it, he'd just snatch it out of orbit.

    Even if Hulk absorbed all the energy and mass of the sun the best he could hope for would be becoming the center of our solar system with all the planets rotating around him.

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    #14  Edited By JonSmith

    @The_Peter_Cosmic: Fair enough. I was making assumptions based on my incredibly limited knowledge of physics. Thanks for enlightening me. I appreciate it. I was under the impression the sun was producing energy every moment, so I thought the Hulk would continue to absorb said energy as it was produced to grow in size.

    And you have to admit, the image of the Hulk sitting in the center of the solar system, swatting at planets as they orbit around him like flies is kind of entertaining.

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    #15  Edited By The_Peter_Cosmic

    It would make a pretty cool "what if".

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    #16  Edited By Biza

    The sun has a gravity of about 30 times earths gravity depending on where you are at inside the sun. I guess he could sit around in the sun and wait for a solar flare to launch him at a random direction into space.

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    #17  Edited By samuel_larson_10

    he would be stuck in the sun forever, doesn't matter if he can survive

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    #18  Edited By soduh2

    If he adapts he'll probably eventually calm down... which will kill him.

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    #19  Edited By SupremeHyperion

    so then if hulk became out sun would superman still be able to draw power from our now green sun :)

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    #20  Edited By Mr_Winchester

    @soduh2 said:

    If he adapts he'll probably eventually calm down... which will kill him.

    If he adapts he wouldn't die.

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    #21  Edited By soduh2

    @Mr_Winchester said:

    @soduh2 said:

    If he adapts he'll probably eventually calm down... which will kill him.

    If he adapts he wouldn't die.

    He wouldn't die as Hulk, but he'll die as Banner.

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    #22  Edited By Rumble Man

    Ironically being left alone would let him be at peace

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    #23  Edited By Nomar

    Why are people limiting Hulk to real world logic and not comic logic? Stars can be physically manipulated in comics usually. The gravity thing should be a non factor or else we would use that argument against anybody that fights near or on the sun. Comic book sun!=real world sun. In comics just becoming stronger makes you capable of doing absurd things. So if this thing is power Hulk up he's not going to have an issue escaping it or just outright destroying it via comic book logic.

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    #24  Edited By Takao0815

    @ Soduh2 : Not everyone Hulk must be transformed back.

    WWH for example not even when he is happy.

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    #25  Edited By soduh2

    @Takao0815: Most of the time Hulk does risk calming down. It's more consistent.

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    #26  Edited By Super_Gui_1

    With that much gamma he'd prolly have whole new array of powers.

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    #27  Edited By dum529001

    In proportion to stress or through direct radiation bombardment, The Hulk absorbs nuclear energy to continually enhance his physiology, gaining in cellular mass AND density.

    It would take a a lot before he gets gigantic like a planet.

    Nukes don't stop Hulk. Nothing does!!

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    #28  Edited By asIsuspected

    Yes he can survive and NO he cant came back

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    #29  Edited By Kellar21

    @Nomar

    No, it can't be used because heroes who fight near(or at the) the sun are capable to withstand his gravity and temperature, and Gamma rays are one of the byproducts of elements decay(when they emit radiation) along with alpha and beta particles,they are considered the highest in the espectrum,higher than X-Rays.

    I believe Hulk can survive the sun if his durability has been upped by his rage,the problem is he can only hold his breath so much and unlike Doomsday can't adapt to these kind of situations,even if he could,he would stay there,if any flare launched him to space he would just drift,and wouldn't be able to control which way he was going.Thus neutralizing him,now this part about him growing and growing...he has NEVER show these abilities what Gamma radiation does is give him more durability and strenght.

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    #30  Edited By BlackWind

    Fine. BFR him into a black hole.

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    #31  Edited By dum529001

    @BlackWind said:

    Fine. BFR him into a black hole.

    Hulk has held apart matter and anti-matter(the force of a nuetron star) and gripped a black hole fissure before

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    #32  Edited By Kellar21

    @dum529001

    Where? and Rulk was about to be destroyed by a black hole,and black holes don't work that way.

    Also Black Hole>>Neutron Star.

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    #33  Edited By dum529001

    How do you know he was about to be destroyed? Rulk has Gamma power and Cosmic power. The gravity of a black hole is not going to put down a powerhouse like Rulk or Hulk.

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    #34  Edited By dum529001

    Pushing two spheres of matter and antimatter apart(Marvel Team-Up Annual#2)

    Defenders 3#

    Hulk saves the defender from being sucked into the Macrocosm:

    Incredible Hulk Vol 1 135

    breaking through a time storm

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    #36  Edited By dum529001

    @Kellar21 said:

    @Nomar

    No, it can't be used because heroes who fight near(or at the) the sun are capable to withstand his gravity and temperature, and Gamma rays are one of the byproducts of elements decay(when they emit radiation) along with alpha and beta particles,they are considered the highest in the espectrum,higher than X-Rays.

    I believe Hulk can survive the sun if his durability has been upped by his rage,the problem is he can only hold his breath so much and unlike Doomsday can't adapt to these kind of situations,even if he could,he would stay there,if any flare launched him to space he would just drift,and wouldn't be able to control which way he was going.Thus neutralizing him,now this part about him growing and growing...he has NEVER show these abilities what Gamma radiation does is give him more durability and strenght.

    By the way, Hulk has survived core solar temperatures unharmed.

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    #37  Edited By Kellar21

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    The Watcher said it and Rulk was afraid of it,and had to be saved from it by Thor.

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    #38  Edited By Kellar21

    @dum529001

    I never said he couldn't I said he wouldn't be able to return to Earth under his own power,and where did he do that,I saw several hulk respect threads and never saw he inside a star.

    @TheAcidSkull

    Did he actually did it,or he didn't lost his mask there?

    Not saying I don't believe just that I never heard that he could do it.

    Still can't get out of it under his own power.So still a valid BFR

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    #39  Edited By dum529001

    Read em' and Weep!

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    #41  Edited By Kellar21

    @TheAcidSkull

    Interesting and nice scans,so he can survive after all,but can he come back?

    And that..such a low blow,I guess that's one of the reasons GR considered them guilty.

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    #42  Edited By Super_Gui_1

    @Kellar21 said:

    @TheAcidSkull

    Interesting and nice scans,so he can survive after all,but can he come back?

    And that..such a low blow,I guess that's one of the reasons GR considered them guilty.

    As far as we can tell about his power, it may be possible for him to become so powerful that he'd be able to jump out of the sun to earth. Though there's no way of telling what he'd be able to do if he were to absorb this much gamma.

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    #43  Edited By Kellar21

    @Super_Gui_1

    Hmm,I don't believe the sun has leverage to a jump and it isn't exactly solid,and he wouldn't be able to aim for earth and course correction would be impossible.

    Still nice knowing about his enviroment adaptation.

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    #45  Edited By Silavite

    The only way I can see him getting out is 'swimming' though the plasma of the sun and then swim/jumping out of the sun and the only way he'd land on Earth is PIS but it would be interesting if he landed on some sort of other world and it started a new plot...

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    #46  Edited By Super_Gui_1

    @Kellar21: Technically with the distance he's able to jump on earth that logic wouldn't apply because of the force of his jump (would push right through the ground and wouldn't give him as much distance as it currently does). + This is comic book logic.

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