"No he's not.  WWH showed that Juggernaut is either stronger or at least at the same levels of strength as the hulk.  Also...you posted the screenshot of WWH beating on Herc...but that's taken out of context. Herc didn't fight back because he was showing WWH that they were there to help. "

"Hey what about the Sentry at the end of World War Hulks? It seemed like a pretty even match if I remember correctly and they were going all out. "

   You do understand I am saying there is no proof for Hulk lifting everything that Superman has right? Just like there is no proof that he can't. Its speculation that he can and can't. Superman has proof for lifting the heavy things he has. Hulk has no proof that demonstrates objective comparison.. Those are very different discussions and points though.   

" @SC:

   You do understand I am saying there is no proof for Hulk lifting everything that Superman has right? Just like there is no proof that he can't. Its speculation that he can and can't. Superman has proof for lifting the heavy things he has. Hulk has no proof that demonstrates objective comparison.. Those are very different discussions and points though.   

 I have read all of your post but i feel that the above part is the most important one, that i should address. You have a good point there. No one can prove if Hulk can or can not pulled the same weight that Superman did. Both of those questions will come down to speculation. So what do you think? Everyone knows that speculation should be avoided. So what should we do. Should we accept the on Panel proofs that shows Superman superiority in terms of feats? Or should we speculate and say that Hulk might do it too but he just have not done? IMO, it should be better to use the first option for the reason that if we use the second, then we just can not decide anything. We won't be able to know who is stronger because we speculate the fact that Hulk might or might not be able to do it. So it's better to use the proofs and see who is better for now until it's proven otherwise.  I hope you get my point and have a nice day bro. =] "

" @SC: Yeah, it's better.  I think it's logical to avoid speculation because most of the time if not all the time, speculation is just an opinion of a person and not a fact. For example saying that spider-man is stronger than Daredevil it's a fact because it has been proven. Saying that Hulk is stronger than superman because when Hulk gets madder he becomes stronger and he had unlimited strength, it's only speculation. It's the opinion of a certain person. We can't know if Hulk's strength is unlimited because madness and anger is not unlimited. See? It's all an opinion, something that it has not been proven so you are saying YOUR opinion. You are not using a fact.  We need to know who is stronger. That's why the thread is made. Hulk is supposed to be the strongest, but according to ON panel proof, we have more impressive strength feats, so it's fair to assume that the said characters are stronger. If Hulk can do or not the same it's only speculation. But it's a fact that the other characters are more impressive and it's more safe to assume that they are stronger other than more impressive. I hope that makes sense. Have a good night bro. =] "

" DC guys are stronger. Three of DC's mightiest heros moved the planet Earth and each took on a 1/3rd of the planet.   The Earth is 6.6 sextillion tons -_-... Now, I'm no math wiz, but a sextillion is larger than a billion which, according to you, is Hulk's greatest feat. Not to mention that Superman, Diana and J'onn aren't even the strongest beings in the DC universe makes Hulk severely weaker in the DC universe. In Marvel, sure, Hulk may be the strongest, but in comic books, he is not.  "

" @spidey 15 said:

" @SC: Yeah, it's better.  I think it's logical to avoid speculation because most of the time if not all the time, speculation is just an opinion of a person and not a fact. For example saying that spider-man is stronger than Daredevil it's a fact because it has been proven. Saying that Hulk is stronger than superman because when Hulk gets madder he becomes stronger and he had unlimited strength, it's only speculation. It's the opinion of a certain person. We can't know if Hulk's strength is unlimited because madness and anger is not unlimited. See? It's all an opinion, something that it has not been proven so you are saying YOUR opinion. You are not using a fact.  We need to know who is stronger. That's why the thread is made. Hulk is supposed to be the strongest, but according to ON panel proof, we have more impressive strength feats, so it's fair to assume that the said characters are stronger. If Hulk can do or not the same it's only speculation. But it's a fact that the other characters are more impressive and it's more safe to assume that they are stronger other than more impressive. I hope that makes sense. Have a good night bro. =] "

 Sorry what's better?  (The first bit? Yeah I agree lol, sorry I took so long to reply back man) What's logical is logical, plus your generalizing a bit. Speculation is just the opinion of a person? Not really. Speculation is neither opinion as much as it is not fact strictly. Those things can overlap. Spiderman being stronger than Daredevil has been proven, because we have lots of examples that thoroughly prove this, not one example and absence of an example.   I have already said that a person saying Hulk is stronger on those basis is speculating, so is one who says that Superman is stronger based on absence of evidence. They are also speculating and nothing is wrong with that.   We also don't know to what degree Hulk's anger relates to his strength level. Your treading old ground, I have also already stated and agree with you on. I am saying your speculating with some of your argument as well, not anything about Hulk being stronger than Superman being factual.   I won't presume to know why the thread was made, but it asks a question, a question that doesn't need an answer, but already has been, but not because its a fact Superman is stronger. Though right there with your statement, "  We need to know who is stronger"  we actually absolutely do not need to know this at all. Hence there is no need for proof of an answer. We simply wish to know, and If there is, there is. If there isn't its speculation or of subjective value. Can you tell me if their is advanced alien life existing elsewhere in the Universe for example? Lack of answer or proof for one doesn't prove the other.  You go on to effectively concede, it IS fair to assume characters like Superman is stronger, but an assumption is not a fact or proof. You seem concerned with trying to argue what Hulk can and can't do as speculation? You realize that I am and have argued that same thing correct? I am saying your argument involving supposed facts is argumentum ad ignorantiam.   Some parts of your post do make sense, but a few to me don't really. Are you no longer arguing that Hulk's absence of proof is proof that Superman doesn't just have more impressive demonstrations of strength but is evidence of him being proof of being stronger rather than fairly assumed or speculated to be stronger?  Thanks man. Hope your weeks all good! "

For me it boils down to a simple premise, supported by the facts (feats) we have seen Hulk perfom in all of his incarnations. 
Hulk has the potential to be the strongest one there is however the feats he has performed so far indicate that he has yet to exceed the strength of some other comic book, no cosmic characters.

Nah it's ok bro. I was just agreeing about the discussion being more manageable.  OK, I'll concede, i might speculated without really knowing that. But my point was kinda different. I was not really trying to speculate. I was mostly comparing feats. Usually in battle forums, in order to determine superiority, we use feats of a character, thus i believed that superman is stronger than Hulk. And sorry, i still believe it until comics prove otherwise. This is how i think.   Look what it was my point. Someone said that Hulk could accomplish same feats with Supes but with no proof. I provided my proof on why Supes is stronger and i said that he was speculating by believing that he could do the same. Isn't speculating that Hulk could do the same or not? I don't remember saying that Hulk could do the same. I just wanted a proof of proving that Hulk could do the same. With no proof, it only comes down to speculation if he can do it or not. But it does not seem speculation if i say that supes is stronger when o have shown superior feats.  I know that you argued the same thing. I just say it to explain my positions.  Have a nice day bro. =-] "

Wait they were pulling the Earth now, how did they pull the Earth without some kind of unbreakable rope like material   also how can you say that speed doesn't apply to pulling something if Superman is tied to the earth and starts flying at incredible speeds he isn't really using his strength to pull the earth he is using his speed  again what issue did they pull the Earth so I can see what i'm arguing against "

" @Superguy1591:  correct if you moved the light post it would be a feat of strength because you would be anchored to the ground (unless somehow you can fly)  the three were not anchored they were flying in space where all they would need to do is lock their arms in place get a good grip and fly in the same direction I have never seen flying relate to strength. "

" @Superguy1591:  not if they aren't anchored or lifting something  and seeing as how no one knows the physics of Superman flying we can't tell if he is using strength or flight but strength is normally shown as moving a stationary object from a constant stationary position "

Briefly ignoring the posts above, tihs depends on the level of streangth hulk is at or the incarnation, if its savage hulk i'd say he is only Topped by Apocalypse and thor (well juggernaut to but if he gets mad enough he can surpass him...and did twice before) if he's WWH then only topped by thor and if he is World breaker then he is the strongest one there is....ON EARTH XD big G pimps smacks him all day everyday no matter how mad he gets.
 
 
 

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It's

BATMAN

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Batman is the strongest there is.  He even beat The Hulk! 
 
     
 
How can The Hulk be the strongest, when he can't even crush a puny human like Batman? 
 
Truth is... 
 
Batman really is God going trick or treating in a Halloween costume, and The Hulk is just a can of beans from the makers of the Jolly Green Giant. "

"hulk is the strongest marvel.........not in all comics.   SUPERMAN is stronger than hulk and most all DC powershouses are as strong or stronger than hulk.   and once again everyone needs to remember that he was world breaker ONE TIME! only ONE TIME! he will never be that angry again he walks around strong but not as strong as herc he has to really get pissed to be that strong. Sure he can tap into that strength but that just like also saying superman can sun dip any time he wants as well. they both can do that but they dont it all the time.  Hulk fans you need to know you place and be kept in check. Bottom line Hes the strongest marvel Yes but it stops there. "

" He is in the Marvel Universe, but only after becoming supremely angered.  "

No.

I love how people compare Superman and Batman to God. It reminds me how shallow DC characters are.

for testing purposes

interesting

LOL 
 

sentry war PURE CRAP. and DC GUYS? OVERLY EXAGGERATED. just because of those stupid issues with avengers and jla. that was what 10 years ago? marvel characters have become much more powerful, ESPECIALLY HULK.

No he's not.  WWH showed that Juggernaut is either stronger or at least at the same levels of strength as the hulk.  Also...you posted the screenshot of WWH beating on Herc...but that's taken out of context. Herc didn't fight back because he was showing WWH that they were there to help.

I can tell you Abraxas is the strongest in marvel universe

I think Zeus answers G-Man's question in his battle with Hulk on Olympus. There are multiple beings in the marvel universe that could be said to have limitless potential power. These beings include Thor, Silver Surfer, and Thanos. The term "limitless" is not unique to the Hulk and other types of limitless power are superior than his. Hulk is earth's mightiest mortal. But even he, in all his rage and arrogance, knew he was no match for Zeus. That's why he challenged him to hand-to-hand combat. And he still lost, suffered an essentially one-sided beat down, and was forced to beg for mercy for his friends. Hulk is a badass beast. No doubt about that. But against a sky-father like Zeus, even he, must bow down.

@Superguy1591 said:

DC guys are stronger. Three of DC's mightiest heros moved the planet Earth and each took on a 1/3rd of the planet. The Earth is 6.6 sextillion tons -_-... Now, I'm no math wiz, but a sextillion is larger than a billion which, according to you, is Hulk's greatest feat. Not to mention that Superman, Diana and J'onn aren't even the strongest beings in the DC universe makes Hulk severely weaker in the DC universe. In Marvel, sure, Hulk may be the strongest, but in comic books, he is not.

Yes, because I can push a car/truck down the street. How much does a car/truck weigh, 2-3 tonnes? And I can also lift a car over my head too. Oh, wait a minute, no I can't.......................................huge difference between pushing, and lifting...............

Juggeranut> Hulk...always

Magic> Human technology..always

Nonetheless, after reading Heart of the Monster, I can clear my doubts about an unrestrained Hulk and whether or not he is stronger than Hercules based on feats. My answer: yes.

In terms of "strength" I would say

Juggernaut >Hulk>Hercules>Thor/Bill>Namor.....the rest on earth. Silver Surfer is a non-factor as he is not known for his strength, but more so his versatility in using Power Cosmic to manipulate energy and matter.

Fact is people Hulk is is the strongest one there is . superman has the speed ability but after seeing hulk pounding the shit out of Gladiator and The Sentry and look what he did wiht the mjonir! Dc fans superman is just a strong as the sentry thor and gladiotor but hulk is the strongest one there is

DC fans watch this over again

@amijnals: One word with a prefix. Non-cannon