Superman moving planets isn't a feat of strength, because it's not an example of physical exertion. He's using flight, not strength, to move the planet, because the only "force" he's fighting against is inertia. He's not technically "lifting" anything, so it doesn't count as strength. Heck, even I move the planet every time I jump in the air.

Just throwing this out there, Hulk: Future Imperfect was amazing!

THANOS always handles Hulk...one exception being    Marvel Zombies but who counts that?

I love the Hulk. 

Hulk can lift one hundred and fifty billion tons???!!! Wow! I might agree that he's the strongest, but Storm's winds are stronger than Hulk's strength.

" So, Hulk is the strongest there is... because Hulk is the strongest there is. "

"Also, what would Silver Surfer be without the Power Cosmic ?"
 
What would Hulk be without radiation? 
 
Juggernaut overpowered Hulk. 
 
And in that last panel, looks like Hulk was attacking Hercules who wasn't there to fight.

the strongest there is def. not. And what is Silver surfer without power cosmic is unfair. Bc What is hulk without rage? Reguardless hulk is powerful no doubt about that. Strongest in marvel not going to doubt that. But once u come into DC's territory thats a completely different ball game. =)

Hulk is the physically strongest there is because he not only has greatest strength off break, his has near limitless ability to grow stronger because the fact his strength is connected to his anger. As far as raw power though, I'm sure there are other characters who're stronger and with their control of cosmic, psonic and other energies. 

No he is not. He has not beaten Juggernaut. Juggernaut was winning but when Prof X took his attention, Hulk manage to BFR juggs because otherwise he could not beat him. 
Also silver surfer was depowered when he faced Hulk and Hulk was still unable to cause any great damage. So, NO, he is not the strongest one there is. 
=]

Silver Surfer is stronger! The disc cut of his supply to the power cosmic entirely, this was silver surfer without the power cosmic fighting WWH...and he still had the physical strength to almost kill him. G-Man saying it was only used to stop him form escaping is an understatement. He was cut off from using the power cosmic at all...so no strength amps or anything.  
Plus silver surfer without power cosmic? 
come on thats like Hulk without radiation or superman without yellow sunlight in his cells...give me a break...

Based on feats? Definitely.

Thor is stronger. Beta Ray Bill is stronger. Juggernaut is stronger. Thanos is stronger. Blue Marvel is stronger. Multiple DC heavyweights are stronger. Why? They have superior feats. Why else? Hulk consistently gets wrecked by Iron Man.     

No Hulk is definitely not the strongest. Its his calling card though, but yeah, actually no one is the strongest, really. Such discussions usually involved a deep oversimplification of definitions and actions.  
 
No one could even really offer a strong candidate for the strongest human that has ever lived without much disagreement, and in real life, we actually have an easier job gauging and measuring strength objectively. In a fictional universe where guys like Sentry, Thor, Silver Surfer, Blue Marvel, Wonderman, Captain America, Hulk, Juggernaut, Thanos, Kurse, Lockjaw, Hercules, strength is incalculable and prone to fluctuating? Fergetboutit.  
 
Plus we have actually had many credible writers gone on their record with naming characters they believe to be stronger than Hulk. I know Juggernaut is one such character and Mangog and Thor are other examples. It doesn't mean they are. It just means Hulk isn't either, in any objective way.  
 
Forget about him just needing to be stronger/increasing strength. Since its an extremely long way from any number to infinity. As well as Hulk not being the only character whose strength can fluctuate.  
 
Finally, beating a bunch of characters isn't an indicator of strength and likewise being the strongest. Just ask Dr Doom, remember the Ninja effect, and whether holding your own against Namor and Hercules and a bunch of others, at the same time, is actually beating them, as opposed to you know, actually beating them, and that one hundred and fifty billion tons may sound impressive, the most amazing aspect of Hulk doing that is how fast his base strength jumped and actually more impressive feat would be say overpowering a character like Gladiator a character whose flight enables him to demonstrate even more amazing strength feats, and that the trillions of tons that is the Midgard serpent makes billions look like uh... millions, and millions of the oh sorry, got caught up in the moment.   
 
Sorry G-Man, I got to disagree. Hulk's claim of being the strongest, is a a catchphrase that can to a degree actually backed up with actions, an idiosyncrasy that tells us more about hulk's childlike nature and ego, than what he squats or presses, similar to Wolverine being the best there is at, yadda yadda, but neither being accurate factual truths about either character. 

I going to say thing why did you ask this knowing how bad it get when people normally add the hulk into anything.  From what I understand yes the hulk can be one the strongest, but unlike the real most powerful heroes he lack any control over his power so is thus much weak when compared plus he also a slow starter so the make even weaker.

only in the physical department and only against non cosmics in the MU

I respect G-Man's opinion, although I don't actually agree with it.

" Superman moving planets isn't a feat of strength, because it's not an example of physical exertion. He's using flight, not strength, to move the planet, because the only "force" he's fighting against is inertia. He's not technically "lifting" anything, so it doesn't count as strength. Heck, even I move the planet every time I jump in the air. "

" Thor is stronger. Beta Ray Bill is stronger. Juggernaut is stronger. Thanos is stronger. Blue Marvel is stronger. Multiple DC heavyweights are stronger. Why? They have superior feats. Why else? Hulk consistently gets wrecked by Iron Man.      "

Was there ever a Juggernaut vs Superman? 
Last time I checked, ol'Juggy was imbued with a magical crystal and Superman has a serious allergy to magic, so that would be one interesting fight, yes? 
Then again Juggy isn't using magic on him per say but is Magic strength stronger than Super strength?

" No he's not.  WWH showed that Juggernaut is either stronger or at least at the same levels of strength as the hulk.  Also...you posted the screenshot of WWH beating on Herc...but that's taken out of context. Herc didn't fight back because he was showing WWH that they were there to help. "

   SUPERMAN is stronger than hulk  

" @Vitality said:

" No he's not.  WWH showed that Juggernaut is either stronger or at least at the same levels of strength as the hulk.  Also...you posted the screenshot of WWH beating on Herc...but that's taken out of context. Herc didn't fight back because he was showing WWH that they were there to help. "

Hulk is PHYSICALLY the strongest character ever created!! "

" @BattleMage said:

" @Vitality said:

" No he's not.  WWH showed that Juggernaut is either stronger or at least at the same levels of strength as the hulk.  Also...you posted the screenshot of WWH beating on Herc...but that's taken out of context. Herc didn't fight back because he was showing WWH that they were there to help. "

Hulk is PHYSICALLY the strongest character ever created!! "

Not even close. =] "

" @BattleMage: WTF are you talking about?  Oh and Superman is by far stronger. Let me know when Hulk will be able to move something that weighs as much as 1/3 of the planet. =] "

" @spidey 15 said:

" @BattleMage: WTF are you talking about?  Oh and Superman is by far stronger. Let me know when Hulk will be able to move something that weighs as much as 1/3 of the planet. =] "

Just off you're head, how much weight is that?  Oh, and the Hulk can, he just haven't been in that situation yet. And if ever is he'll do it without the help of a lantern! Take care "

" @BattleMage said:

" @spidey 15 said:

" @BattleMage: WTF are you talking about?  Oh and Superman is by far stronger. Let me know when Hulk will be able to move something that weighs as much as 1/3 of the planet. =] "

Just off you're head, how much weight is that?  Oh, and the Hulk can, he just haven't been in that situation yet. And if ever is he'll do it without the help of a lantern! Take care "

Obviously much more than what Hulk has ever lift or pull..... Oh, speculation. I love speculation. If you can prove it, it will be good. If you can not prove that Hulk can do the same, then he can not.  Oh, and superman pulled 1/3 of the planet alone! The other 2/3 has been pulled by Wonder Woman and Manhunter. =] "

Hulk is the Strongest Mortal...

" @SC: This is not speculation. If Hulk has never done it, then he can not do it unless he proved it. If Hulk has no feats close to that one, then it comes down to speculation of he can actually do it. It's not speculation to say that he can not do it, if he has never shown the ability to do it. If someone can prove that he can do it, then he can. Until then, he has not feats to suggest that.  =] "

" @SC: In order to know if someone is capable of something, we are using their feats. This is what i'm trying to say. If Hulk has not the said feats to prove that he can't, then the character who has the superior feats, is obviously stronger until the other prove otherwise. Hulk has not prove that he is stronger than superman and superman has the superiority in feats. We can not say that Hulk can do the same or better, because he has never shown that he can. Your examples of muffins does not help here because of feats, he can do it.  My smiley is my mark....lol I always post it. =] "

Hulk Smash Thread!

" @SC: You're getting overly picky over semantics.  If you don't gloss over the unspoken- nonetheless reasonable- caveat that people cannot generally perform greater feats until proven.  The muffin is trite because you're equivocating historical but lesser feat by taking his argument literally without applying the common-sense caveat.  Since the activity is one of scale / magnitude and not identity it's irrelevant whether Hulk could crush your specific muffin when he's routinely proven he can crush things with characteristics like it.  The burden of proof is completely reasonably placed on Hulk to demonstrate that he can perform a feat of that scale and magnitude when he has not ever done it before.  But I'm sure you knew that and just wanted to be picky about word choice. "

" Wasnt the Blackbolt that hulk beat down in WWH actually a skrull?? though i dont know, is the skrull just as powerfull as the real BB? "

"When is it proof someone can't do something, because they haven't done it yet? I have not turned 20 yet, so thats proof I won't?"

" The burden of proof is reasonably placed on Hulk, if there was a person claiming that the Hulk, will and can lift a certain feat of that scale and magnitude that he has not demonstrated."

" @SC said:

"When is it proof someone can't do something, because they haven't done it yet? I have not turned 20 yet, so thats proof I won't?"

Funny you should use that example, because in the eyes of traditional law, yes, it is proof that you won't... you need you hit the age of 20 to prove that you will reach the age of 20 otherwise your rights won't vest (Rules of Perpituity, generally supplanted by local legislation, nonetheless exhibiting where the burden traditionally lies).  I could spin this into a long winded explanation of why, but then I'd be doing the same nitpicky thing you're doing!  Incidentally, your "show a time of limitation" argument is a strawman because any shown will be immediately knocked down by a trite, "He wasn't angry enough then / the conditions weren't right!"   
 
@SC said:

" The burden of proof is reasonably placed on Hulk, if there was a person claiming that the Hulk, will and can lift a certain feat of that scale and magnitude that he has not demonstrated."

Which is probably all the poster actually cared about.  I appreciate that you recognize it.  If you find it fun, that's fine, but I think rephrasing people's intentions expeditiously causes less thread spam. "

" The burden of proof is reasonably placed on Hulk, if there was a person claiming that the Hulk, will and can lift a certain feat of that scale and magnitude that he has not demonstrated."

Is Hulk the strongest? It's a possibility, I guess, but I was so offended by World War Hulk on the basis that him being able to plow through almost everyone in the MU is just not realistic at all, whatsoever. 
 
Brute force like his means next to nothing to me. Kitty Pryde could've simply flown a plane through his head, phased it, phase out of the plane, and unphased and he'd be dead and I'm sure there are hundreds of possibilities similar to that one. 
 
So he's the strongest? So what. He still has no control over his powers, he's not that bright when he's gone feral, and he makes his problems everyone else's. Forget all these comparisons, Hulk is just downright annoying.

" Also really abnormally fond of repeating yourself, wow.  In that spirit:
 
@SC said: 

" The burden of proof is reasonably placed on Hulk, if there was a person claiming that the Hulk, will and can lift a certain feat of that scale and magnitude that he has not demonstrated."

"

"  The quote you made of mine, of course applying to definitive proof, of course, educated guessing and reasoning can bypass any need for proof, in one is not trying to state something, is or isn't proven.  "

" @SC said:

"  The quote you made of mine, of course applying to definitive proof, of course, educated guessing and reasoning can bypass any need for proof, in one is not trying to state something, is or isn't proven.  "

Being coy isn't concise.  So, despite the implication, you've not met the burden of educated guessing or reasoning to "bypass any need for proof" with your "show me a limit" strawman. "