Is hulk gonna be in Avx?

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#1 Posted by DATNIGGA (1224 posts) - - Show Bio

I mean Red hulk is dieing cap needs some more heavy hitters &...

you see hulk on the front of the books & wanda had a dream...

what do you think?

#2 Posted by TheAcidSkull (18813 posts) - - Show Bio

probably

#3 Posted by Nudeviking (479 posts) - - Show Bio

So does that mean we get a revived Wasp also? She was also in Wanda's dream. Can we get Mark I Iron Man also...with roller skates of course?

#4 Posted by gethere (163 posts) - - Show Bio

@DATNIGGA: He is supposed to show up in the event at some point, from future covers although they aren't exactly good sources, it looks like he might appear by issue #10 or # 11.

#5 Posted by DATNIGGA (1224 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nudeviking: Lol good point

@gethere: true but..

he shows up here as well

#6 Posted by gethere (163 posts) - - Show Bio

@DATNIGGA: Yeah, as I said issue 10 or 11 that that is a variant of issue 11

#7 Posted by Necrotic_Lycanthrope (2388 posts) - - Show Bio

3 words summarize the possibility of his appearance. Fat ****ing Chance.

So far Red Hulk's been busting his @$$ trying to stop Colossu-naut, Iceman, Kid Gladiator and gosh knows how many other characters. All the while though Greeny goes out drinking, hot tubbing in a super volcano and having random blackouts all over the place (I blame narcolepsy, regardless of the whole Banner thing). Skaar maybe will wave to us in a panel o something, but his dad? Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

(and if you think I'm joking about Hulk drinking, here's my proof)

#8 Posted by Hareil0079 (429 posts) - - Show Bio

only time will tell

#9 Posted by X35 (5981 posts) - - Show Bio

@Necrotic_Lycanthrope: BUT HULK'S AN AVENGER IN THE MOVIES IT'S SO CONFUSING COZ HE ISN'T ONE IN THE COMICS OMG WTF MARVEL

#10 Posted by MadeinBangladesh (8084 posts) - - Show Bio

Where is Green Hulk now anyway?

#11 Posted by AssassinHighBird (14 posts) - - Show Bio

He better be f****** in AvX.. Red Hulk might be his subsitute, but hes NO hulk! But IF he does appear in this series, I will be ABSOLUTELY siked to see whats in store for him

#12 Posted by DATNIGGA (1224 posts) - - Show Bio

@Necrotic_Lycanthrope said:

3 words summarize the possibility of his appearance. Fat ****ing Chance.

So far Red Hulk's been busting his @$$ trying to stop Colossu-naut, Iceman, Kid Gladiator and gosh knows how many other characters. All the while though Greeny goes out drinking, hot tubbing in a super volcano and having random blackouts all over the place (I blame narcolepsy, regardless of the whole Banner thing). Skaar maybe will wave to us in a panel o something, but his dad? Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

(and if you think I'm joking about Hulk drinking, here's my proof)

Ah yea i read that comic hahaha but hulk is just relaxing & he has every right to do so after being trapped inside of banner for all his life & everytime he gets out the military & thunderbolt ross & his hulk busters makes his life very difficult for so many years... he deserves a vacation lol

Red hulk is a ok substitute but nothing beats the original especially in times like these

#13 Posted by Necrotic_Lycanthrope (2388 posts) - - Show Bio

@X35:

Remember, he got mad in issue 2 of the original Avengers and ran off like a baby. At least Cap got his place and the team was semi-solid afterwards for several years.

But now Greeny's on screen, so everyone wants him instead of Big Red, even though Ross is the one who's been doing the work. Chances are, IF Red is kicked out of the Avengers or Cap lets him off of his "community service" early, Incredible Hulk will be there to immediately take the spot again for the sake of newbie film induced fans.

#14 Posted by X35 (5981 posts) - - Show Bio

@Necrotic_Lycanthrope: Gulk could never beat Rulk as an Avenger.

Hulk takes charge
Hulk takes charge
#15 Posted by Necrotic_Lycanthrope (2388 posts) - - Show Bio

@X35:

(Hulk you mean. Gulk wore a suit and ran Vegas for 5 months lol)

True that. :)

#16 Posted by X35 (5981 posts) - - Show Bio

@Necrotic_Lycanthrope: No... Gulk is Green Hulk. He's a silly copy of the real Hulk who as we all know is red but Gulk has green skin. ;)

#17 Posted by Necrotic_Lycanthrope (2388 posts) - - Show Bio

@DATNIGGA:

Okay, taking a break is one thing. Another is when he says "Screw everybody" and just goes all native and junk. Maybe go back to working with the Incredible Hulks or something, or trying to connect with his kids instead of pretending like it's The End saga thing or something (the one where Banner dies and Hulk grows a beard).

Red Hulk is A Hulk, not THE Hulk. But so far he's much more of a team player than we'll ever see Bruce Banner's Hulk be. If we ever see his join, it's because the Phoenix Five blows up his house or something, not because he felt obligated to do so.

#18 Posted by Necrotic_Lycanthrope (2388 posts) - - Show Bio

@X35:

*dies laughing*

;P

Rulk fans unite!

(will chant this for years until more people join the Rulk fan club)

#19 Edited by DATNIGGA (1224 posts) - - Show Bio

@Necrotic_Lycanthrope: but the im pissed "Screw everybody" mentality is what hulk is all about.. he adds flavor to the team because hes indifferent rulk takes orders like a good soldier just like the rest of the random avengers in the background.... but hulk complements there personality's

you got thor hes all courageous and confident

you got spiderman the joking dude all the time

wolverine the serious pessimistic killer

ironman the logical right hand man

cap the serious leader

& hulk the defiant guy with the attitude

it makes things more fun..

also one thing about hulk is since day one he has always wanted to be alone.. that has been robbed of him his entire life until now.. let him have some alone time you would want the same if people kept bothering you all day. but up until recently he doesn't want to be that way anymore this could lead too him rejoining the avengers

#20 Posted by Necrotic_Lycanthrope (2388 posts) - - Show Bio

@DATNIGGA:

With Rulk taking control in place of Cap when he's gone (evidence seen when Rulk takes action and control), maybe he'll be the soldier to replace Steve Rodgers if he decides to retire from Avengers leadership.

Having a Hulk as a leader would be pretty cool (and make up greatly for Rulk's last team stint with The Offenders).

#21 Edited by VenomousDragon (975 posts) - - Show Bio

Rulk sucks, he is a lame weak copy of good old big green.

I never want to see "gulk" again he is the hulk, everyone else gets altered names not the original.

I hope hulk makes an appearance, the avengers could use his help but then again im not even reading this event, havent bought a single issue :P

#22 Posted by Necrotic_Lycanthrope (2388 posts) - - Show Bio

@VenomousDragon:

What have you read from the Rulk series to support that claim?

And remember, the Jeph Loeb stuff was almost 3 some years ago.

#23 Posted by TheAcidSkull (18813 posts) - - Show Bio

@Necrotic_Lycanthrope: im sorry dude, i like rulk i really do, but i preferred Ross as a human , i am just mad because The Hulk was my fav character in the universe and then lobe decided to appear out of nowhere and make a new one, it's making me very mad, ross was always that hunter and hulk was his big white whale , i agree that jeff made lots of improvements , but i liked the time when there was only one Hulk, and besides the events of avengers vs x-men take place before the STAY ANGRY arc since in the A vs X Hulk and banner are back to normal, and banner is not some crazed scientist who makes the hulks life miserable

#24 Posted by Teerack (7457 posts) - - Show Bio

Well considering this was a promo for AvX

and this cover

#25 Posted by Lvenger (21241 posts) - - Show Bio

If he shows up in AvX, it completely wrecks the continuity established in Aaron's Hulk series. CIS to be blunt. And then I shall rally everyone on here who hates this **** move by Marvel and together we shall march upon the fortress that is their office building and demand that they stop putting out events every year and focus on building events up in individual series instead! Then comes world domination... oh wait that's later.

#26 Posted by Necrotic_Lycanthrope (2388 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheAcidSkull:

Don't worry about it. :P If you think this is bad you should see the wars I go through in the Jurassic Park T-Rex vs. Spinosaurus videos on Youtube.

But one reason I bring up whenever a not so nice person hates on Rulk is that Big Green was hated when he first appeared because he was so unstoppable and strong. The same thing happened to Rulk with Jeph Loeb.

I guess if we wait 30 years maybe people will start fanning him like with Green Hulk...?

#27 Edited by VenomousDragon (975 posts) - - Show Bio

@Necrotic_Lycanthrope:

Rulk sucks: Opinion doesnt need to be backed up with fact

Rulk is weaker: Hulk has better feats, thats the end of that.

Rulk is lame copy: Hur dur lets take hulk and make him red derp, Its an exceedingly unoriginal idea thus making him a lame copy.

#28 Posted by Kallarkz (3295 posts) - - Show Bio
@VenomousDragon said:

@Necrotic_Lycanthrope:

Rulk sucks: Opinion doesnt need to be backed up with fact

Rulk is a weaker: Hulk has better feats, thats the end of that.

Rulk is lame copy: Hur dur lets take hulk and make him red derp, Its an exceedingly unoriginal idea thus making him a lame copy.

Your colorful language (which I assume is an attempt to show stupidity of the idea of creating Rulk) is actually something that better suits the Green Hulk. 
Rulk sucks: He actually contributes a lot more to the Marvel Universe than Gulk. (I actually like that name for him) 
Rulk is weaker: His base strength is much higher than Hulks and he has the same ability to increase it as Hulk to indeterminate levels. The only difference is the means. 
Rulk is a lame copy: Yes it's true that Rulk and Gulk have similar powers/transformations, but over the years Rulk has distinguished himself from Gulk countless times. Just like Kaine is beginning to do in Scarlet Spider (although he is more of a copy since he is an actual clone of Peter Parker).  
Rulk does more and has a much more interesting purpose than his counterpart. I will agree that I would have preferred him to have a more interesting origin story...but nevertheless it does not change the fact that his book (since Parker has been on it) has been one of my more looked forward to purchases of the month. 
Rulk grows and changes and his book has an actual purpose.
#29 Posted by VenomousDragon (975 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kallarkz said:

@VenomousDragon said:

@Necrotic_Lycanthrope:

Rulk sucks: Opinion doesnt need to be backed up with fact

Rulk is a weaker: Hulk has better feats, thats the end of that.

Rulk is lame copy: Hur dur lets take hulk and make him red derp, Its an exceedingly unoriginal idea thus making him a lame copy.

Your colorful language (which I assume is an attempt to show stupidity of the idea of creating Rulk) is actually something that better suits the Green Hulk. Rulk sucks: He actually contributes a lot more to the Marvel Universe than Gulk. (I actually like that name for him) Rulk is weaker: His base strength is much higher than Hulks and he has the same ability to increase it as Hulk to indeterminate levels. The only difference is the means. Rulk is a lame copy: Yes it's true that Rulk and Gulk have similar powers/transformations, but over the years Rulk has distinguished himself from Gulk countless times. Just like Kaine is beginning to do in Scarlet Spider (although he is more of a copy since he is an actual clone of Peter Parker). Rulk does more and has a much more interesting purpose than his counterpart. I will agree that I would have preferred him to have a more interesting origin story...but nevertheless it does not change the fact that his book (since Parker has been on it) has been one of my more looked forward to purchases of the month. Rulk grows and changes and his book has an actual purpose.

Rulk is weaker: Stats<feats, hes weaker thats it.

Rulk hasnt had the time to contribute to marvel U That hulk has and because of that Hulk has contributed more and is actually a marvel icon so i dont know why you would even bring that up. No matter how much Rulk distinguishes him self from Hulk he will always be in Hulks shadow, for an example if you show someone a picture of hulk they will reply "look its hulk" if you show them a picture of Rulk the will reply "look its a red version of hulk", not exactly but more or less.

Rulk is a lame copy:He is a copy, the lame part is more of an opinion. Hulks origin isnt great but atleast it original, while Rulks also isnt great and is unoriginal.

I dont read Rulk or Hulk for that matter. I will admit that Rulk is a better avenger but he will always play second fiddle to Hulk.

My opinion is Hulk>Rulk

your's isnt I doubt we are going to change are opinion's no mater how much text we pump out so Why dont we stop while we are ahead :)

#30 Posted by Flopsop200 (171 posts) - - Show Bio

Where are you getting your facts? Red's Strength doesn't increase as he gets angry, he just gets hotter. I will concede the Red Hulk book is currently better than the Incredible Hulk book and it's a shame. The copy Hulk gets to run around with Hulk's supporting cast doing pretty cool things. While Jason Aaron (An awesome Wolverine writer btw) takes what Peter David and Greg Pak did with the character and throws it out the window. He doesn't get the character at all. On a side note, it'd be great if the green guy made an appearance in AvX.

#31 Posted by Kallarkz (3295 posts) - - Show Bio
@VenomousDragon said:

@Kallarkz said:

@VenomousDragon said:

@Necrotic_Lycanthrope:

Rulk sucks: Opinion doesnt need to be backed up with fact

Rulk is a weaker: Hulk has better feats, thats the end of that.

Rulk is lame copy: Hur dur lets take hulk and make him red derp, Its an exceedingly unoriginal idea thus making him a lame copy.

Your colorful language (which I assume is an attempt to show stupidity of the idea of creating Rulk) is actually something that better suits the Green Hulk. Rulk sucks: He actually contributes a lot more to the Marvel Universe than Gulk. (I actually like that name for him) Rulk is weaker: His base strength is much higher than Hulks and he has the same ability to increase it as Hulk to indeterminate levels. The only difference is the means. Rulk is a lame copy: Yes it's true that Rulk and Gulk have similar powers/transformations, but over the years Rulk has distinguished himself from Gulk countless times. Just like Kaine is beginning to do in Scarlet Spider (although he is more of a copy since he is an actual clone of Peter Parker). Rulk does more and has a much more interesting purpose than his counterpart. I will agree that I would have preferred him to have a more interesting origin story...but nevertheless it does not change the fact that his book (since Parker has been on it) has been one of my more looked forward to purchases of the month. Rulk grows and changes and his book has an actual purpose.

Rulk is weaker: Stats<feats, hes weaker thats it.

Rulk hasnt had the time to contribute to marvel U That hulk has and because of that Hulk has contributed more and is actually a marvel icon so i dont know why you would even bring that up. No matter how much Rulk distinguishes him self from Hulk he will always be in Hulks shadow, for an example if you show someone a picture of hulk they will reply "look its hulk" if you show them a picture of Rulk the will reply "look its a red version of hulk", not exactly but more or less.

Rulk is a lame copy:He is a copy, the lame part is more of an opinion. Hulks origin isnt great but atleast it original, while Rulks also isnt great and is unoriginal.

I dont read Rulk or Hulk for that matter. I will admit that Rulk is a better avenger but he will always play second fiddle to Hulk.

My opinion is Hulk>Rulk

your's isnt I doubt we are going to change are opinion's no mater how much text we pump out so Why dont we stop while we are ahead :)

Of course he has more feats he has been around much longer. I simply made the mistake that we would actually be using facts in this argument instead of "that's it" 
You obviously have not been reading his book then if you believe he is leaving no impact on the Marvel Universe. What has Hulk been accomplishing? 
Unoriginal? Explain to me how he became to be Rulk and compare it to others who have experienced undergone the same thing.  
" I dont read Rulk or Hulk for that matter. " That basically makes most of what you are saying pure unfounded hate with almost to no actual facts or experience to back it up.
The intent behind my answering you is not to change your opinion rather to debate "facts" you are attempting to present to put Rulk in a bad light on a public forum.  
 
Your entire argument seems to be based on "he's a copy". Other than they look similar and have similar abilities I'm not quite sure what else you are basing that argument on. 
They are 2 different characters who do different things and think differently. 
#32 Posted by Kallarkz (3295 posts) - - Show Bio
@Flopsop200 said:

@Kallarkz

Where are you getting your facts? Red's Strength doesn't increase as he gets angry, he just gets hotter. I will concede the Red Hulk book is currently better than the Incredible Hulk book and it's a shame. The copy Hulk gets to run around with Hulk's supporting cast doing pretty cool things. While Jason Aaron (An awesome Wolverine writer btw) takes what Peter David and Greg Pak did with the character and throws it out the window. He doesn't get the character at all. On a side note, it'd be great if the green guy made an appearance in AvX.

I would like you to search my post for where I wrote that as Rulk gets angrier his strength increases. 
Yes I am aware that you couldn't find it. I wrote that their strength increases by  different means. 
Rulk can increase his strength when he absorbs certain types of energy. 
#33 Posted by Flopsop200 (171 posts) - - Show Bio

lol because that happens all the time. That's like when Hulk absorbs gamma or Superman Fly's into the sun to recharge. I didn't realize plot device's were powers. Hey did you know that when Wolverine doesn't have and adamantium skeleton he heals faster? When Xavier uses Cerebro his telepathy is stronger. When Batman prepares he's almost unbeatable,

#34 Edited by Kallarkz (3295 posts) - - Show Bio
@Flopsop200 said:

@Kallarkz

lol because that happens all the time. That's like when Hulk absorbs gamma or Superman Fly's into the sun to recharge. I didn't realize plot device's were powers. Hey did you know that when Wolverine doesn't have and adamantium skeleton he heals faster? When Xavier uses Cerebro his telepathy is stronger. When Batman prepares he's almost unbeatable,

So you skipped admitting you were wrong to now discussing the consistency with which my correct point occurs. 
It's a known power that he has used on a number of occasions. 
Whether or not you like it or not or wish to compare with others abilities is beside the point. 
#35 Posted by Oscars94 (2642 posts) - - Show Bio

I say that Hulk should be in AvX. Although Rulk is a better team player, HULK IS THE STRONGEST ONE THERE IS!!!! And everyone cut the GULK $&£& he's the frickin' Hulk! Despite liking Hulk more I would love to see him fight alongside Rulk in AvX. Let's face it, with the Phoenix Five running about the place showing off their power,we need the Hulk around to make sure the Avengers aren't totally incinerated. Did you see what Phoenixclops did to Thor. ODIN'S BEARD!

#36 Posted by Flopsop200 (171 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kallarkz:

I acknowledged you were right. I also acknowledged it's a plot device more than a power. Sorry let me be more clear, I implied those things. If he carried and energy source on his back that he habitually pulled from to increase his strength then we could pretend that ability matters.

Example: Pyro can manipulate fire so he wears a suit that makes fire for him to manipulate. He does this all the time.

#37 Posted by Kallarkz (3295 posts) - - Show Bio
@Flopsop200 said:

@Kallarkz:

I acknowledged you were right. I also acknowledged it's a plot device more than a power. Sorry let me be more clear, I implied those things. If he carried and energy source on his back that he habitually pulled from to increase his strength then we could pretend that ability matters.

Example: Pyro can manipulate fire so he wears a suit that makes fire for him to manipulate. He does this all the time.

what exactly is your point? 
I stated that Rulk can increase his strength by absorbing energy (A fact) 
You said he doesn't gain strength when he is angry (Also a Fact) 
 
Now we are discussing plot devices and Xavier and Pryo. 
This has nothing at all to do with the topic or the main point of my post and is a discussion for another thread.  
Find one about plot devices and I will be happy to discuss it there with you. 
#38 Posted by Flopsop200 (171 posts) - - Show Bio

@Oscars94:

I dunno Cyclops would probably do the same to Hulk..........and that would make me sad.

#39 Posted by Necrotic_Lycanthrope (2388 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kallarkz said:

@VenomousDragon said:

@Necrotic_Lycanthrope:

Rulk sucks: Opinion doesnt need to be backed up with fact

Rulk is a weaker: Hulk has better feats, thats the end of that.

Rulk is lame copy: Hur dur lets take hulk and make him red derp, Its an exceedingly unoriginal idea thus making him a lame copy.

Your colorful language (which I assume is an attempt to show stupidity of the idea of creating Rulk) is actually something that better suits the Green Hulk. Rulk sucks: He actually contributes a lot more to the Marvel Universe than Gulk. (I actually like that name for him) Rulk is weaker: His base strength is much higher than Hulks and he has the same ability to increase it as Hulk to indeterminate levels. The only difference is the means. Rulk is a lame copy: Yes it's true that Rulk and Gulk have similar powers/transformations, but over the years Rulk has distinguished himself from Gulk countless times. Just like Kaine is beginning to do in Scarlet Spider (although he is more of a copy since he is an actual clone of Peter Parker). Rulk does more and has a much more interesting purpose than his counterpart. I will agree that I would have preferred him to have a more interesting origin story...but nevertheless it does not change the fact that his book (since Parker has been on it) has been one of my more looked forward to purchases of the month. Rulk grows and changes and his book has an actual purpose.

This x 100

#40 Posted by Oscars94 (2642 posts) - - Show Bio

Here it shows Hulk asking Cap to let Rulk on the team , as he wants to solve some personal problems. (This is not long after the events of World War Hulk). He needed a replacement with considerable power (not so much as Hulk).

#41 Posted by War Killer (20293 posts) - - Show Bio

I still hate the idea of Rulk being an Avenger. Marvel's taking all of their good villains and turning them into anti-heroes/good guys... -__-

#42 Posted by TDK_1997 (15097 posts) - - Show Bio

We need Wasp back.

#43 Posted by Necrotic_Lycanthrope (2388 posts) - - Show Bio

@TDK_1997:

Give her abilities that don't bore me to death and I'll read even the lowest trash that Bendis (or whoever will handle her) can come up with.

#44 Posted by Necrotic_Lycanthrope (2388 posts) - - Show Bio

@Oscars94:

During that time I think Banner was starting the descent into the insanity that Jason Aaron gave him later on in the relaunched series. Plus, as evident in YEARS of comic history, Bruce and Hulk hate being on teams. Heck, he hated leading a "family" so you can imagine his reaction if anybody tried to get him to rejoin the Avengers again. Plus I think he wanted to punish Ross even more and have him learn the ropes by following the example of Cap, the one person Rulk would go all puppy dog for (outside of Annie the LMD and Betty of course).

#45 Posted by Pyrogram (41344 posts) - - Show Bio

I want Hulk back, Rulk is a poor poor avenger in my books.

#46 Posted by LitosWay357 (87 posts) - - Show Bio

Being a loner serves Hulk's character better anyway. i was hoping he would stay away from this avx story

#47 Posted by Fifthchild (625 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kallarkz said:

@VenomousDragon said:

@Necrotic_Lycanthrope:

Rulk sucks: Opinion doesnt need to be backed up with fact

Rulk is a weaker: Hulk has better feats, thats the end of that.

Rulk is lame copy: Hur dur lets take hulk and make him red derp, Its an exceedingly unoriginal idea thus making him a lame copy.

Your colorful language (which I assume is an attempt to show stupidity of the idea of creating Rulk) is actually something that better suits the Green Hulk. Rulk sucks: He actually contributes a lot more to the Marvel Universe than Gulk. (I actually like that name for him) Rulk is weaker: His base strength is much higher than Hulks and he has the same ability to increase it as Hulk to indeterminate levels. The only difference is the means.

Theres zero to indicate his base strength is higher than Hulks. His base strength appears to be the same standard Class 100 level as Hulk, Herc, Thor etc.

Rulk no longer has the ability to augment his powers either - he hasn't had his energy draining abilities for some time.

Anyway apart from all that Rulk has become a pretty good character and i dont hate him. In fact he is probably my favourite of all the Hulk spinoffs at this point. Skaar has potential but he hasn't had as good a run out on his own away from the main Hulk book as Parker has given Rulk. Still Marvel tried to establish way too many spinoff characters in way too short a period of time and made them too similar to the actual Hulk. At least Rulk had a cool power....for a while.

#48 Posted by Necrotic_Lycanthrope (2388 posts) - - Show Bio

@Fifthchild:

Marvel will probably ret-con the loss of the absorbing ability in future titles. But for now, old Rulk still has his heat generation. *still hopes for him to breath fire in the future*

#49 Posted by samuel_larson_10 (283 posts) - - Show Bio

@Necrotic_Lycanthrope said:

@DATNIGGA:

With Rulk taking control in place of Cap when he's gone (evidence seen when Rulk takes action and control), maybe he'll be the soldier to replace Steve Rodgers if he decides to retire from Avengers leadership.

Having a Hulk as a leader would be pretty cool (and make up greatly for Rulk's last team stint with The Offenders).

the very idea of a team called the offenders hurts me inside. Painfully.

#50 Posted by Necrotic_Lycanthrope (2388 posts) - - Show Bio

@samuel_larson_10:

It hurts us all. Even me a dedicated Rulk fan hates what Jeph Loeb did in that arc.

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