Indestructible Hulk: The return to a mindless Hulk?

#1 Posted by gravage (2 posts) - - Show Bio

Having just finished Indestructible Hulk #1, I'm incredibly disappointed in the return of a mindless Hulk. Was that really necessary, Marvel? Peter David and Greg Pak perfected a Hulk that was capable of dialogue and character development and then Incredible Hulk just ends abruptly and we get this with no explanation? It's like a broken record. Give him intelligence for a while, then take it away. Give it back, then take it away. I was hoping we had evolved past the stupid Hulk days, that it was a permanent change. I should have known by the way he was popping up in Avengers Assemble and X-Men as mindless, this was going to happen, but I was hoping it was just writer inconsistency.

#2 Posted by guttridgeb (4831 posts) - - Show Bio

We don't know if that is mindless Hulk, he didn't speak but the fight scene had to be pretty short as a lot of the comic was spent talking.

#3 Posted by Lvenger (19048 posts) - - Show Bio

@gravage: @guttridgeb: I believe Waid said that he would write Hulk's intelligence depending on how angry he is. So if he's really angry like he was in Indestructible Hulk 1 then he doesn't talk much. When he's calmer, he speaks more. That's what I read in one of his interviews anyway.

#4 Posted by guttridgeb (4831 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger: Cool thanks, I didn't see that interview :)

#5 Posted by Reignmaker (2235 posts) - - Show Bio

They're going to make him mindless so it's more in keeping with the Avengers movie.

#6 Posted by TheAcidSkull (17760 posts) - - Show Bio

he is not going to be mindless, he'l be gravage , it's just that banner will be more of a controller from now on

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#7 Posted by God_Spawn (37560 posts) - - Show Bio

Ferrignotize that fool.

"RAAAAAAH!!! BETTYYYYYY!!!"

I want Ferrigno TAS Hulk screaming as my ringtone.

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#8 Posted by verbaleuan (40 posts) - - Show Bio

If so, THANK GOD THIS IS THE HULK I KNOW AND LOVE!!!!

he is Banners inner child and so only has a child's mind

#9 Posted by Oscars94 (2445 posts) - - Show Bio

I prefered his personality during World War Hulk and the following series. He's still a rage monster but atleast he can talk! The TV show Avengers Earth's Mightiest Heroes got the Hulk right!

#10 Posted by Abattoir (847 posts) - - Show Bio

still can't fault the art work

#11 Posted by HushoftheWind (868 posts) - - Show Bio

@Oscars94: i made a thread asking what was the Best rendition of Hulk, i agree, Earth's Mightiest Heroes Hulk was a great Hulk. Probably the Best Hulk there is.

#12 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32993 posts) - - Show Bio
@Reignmaker

They're going to make him mindless so it's more in keeping with the Avengers movie.

#13 Posted by TDK_1997 (14642 posts) - - Show Bio

From what I know I think that Hulk won't be mindless.He will be talking but not much.

#14 Posted by TheAcidSkull (17760 posts) - - Show Bio

@TDK_1997 said:

From what I know I think that Hulk won't be mindless.He will be talking but not much.

this !

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#15 Posted by Lvenger (19048 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheAcidSkull said:

@TDK_1997 said:

From what I know I think that Hulk won't be mindless.He will be talking but not much.

this !

Waid even confirmed the Hulk would be talking. He just said that his speech would be determined by how angry he was.

#16 Posted by TDK_1997 (14642 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger said:

@TheAcidSkull said:

@TDK_1997 said:

From what I know I think that Hulk won't be mindless.He will be talking but not much.

this !

Waid even confirmed the Hulk would be talking. He just said that his speech would be determined by how angry he was.

Well,that's good!

#17 Posted by TheAcidSkull (17760 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger said:

@TheAcidSkull said:

@TDK_1997 said:

From what I know I think that Hulk won't be mindless.He will be talking but not much.

this !

Waid even confirmed the Hulk would be talking. He just said that his speech would be determined by how angry he was.

yup, hulk doesn't talk when his angry, he just use his fists for communication.

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#18 Posted by GreenScar1990 (555 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger

@theacidskull

Hulk's anger depends on if he speaks or not. Yeah, that makes sense... not! Hulk got plenty ticked during Greg Pak and Peter David's tenures, yet still managed to smack talk. I'll be creating something soon that explore Waid's run thus far, pros and cons. Be on the lookout for it!

#19 Posted by Lvenger (19048 posts) - - Show Bio

@greenscar1990: Well I hope you aren't as rude about it as you were to the man in person. Be on the lookout for me picking you up on your flaws in that post of yours. Or would you rather go against what the writer said? Besides you're overlooking the fact this is a different version of Hulk. This isn't the Green Scar or the Worldbreaker, it's more of a return to a Savage/Gravage type of Hulk. Thus he won't act the same as he did before. That may seem like regression to you but to me it's perfectly fine, especially after Aaron's bad run.

#20 Edited by Teerack (5708 posts) - - Show Bio

The writer has said a few times that the hulk will be different every time he transforms depending on the circumstances of the transformation.

#21 Posted by JJ62 (1299 posts) - - Show Bio

I have to agree with previous posters Oscars94 and HushoftheWind.

EMH's Hulk IMO, is the best rendition to date. He's still a raging beast, but he can talk and actually has a personality...that's the one I like best.

#22 Edited by dum529001 (1624 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger:

Hulk didn't just start talking during Greg Pak's run on the Hulk.

The Hulk has always talked.

Hulk has never been a mute. He has a personality.

Hulk is rage monster but what makes him even more entertaining is the things he says while he fights that reflect what kind of person he is.

#23 Posted by Lvenger (19048 posts) - - Show Bio

@dum529001: Hulk is my 7th favourite comic book character. Of course I know he talks. What I'm saying is that this isn't the talkative Professor Hulk or Green Scar version of the Hulk. This is a less chatty version of the Hulk. Also I refer to you to this comment

@teerack said:

The writer has said a few times that the hulk will be different every time he transforms depending on the circumstances of the transformation.

So relax, Hulk will still get a chance to talk in the future. Just let Waid tell his story. Banner's doing enough talking in the issue anyway.

#24 Edited by Fifthchild (596 posts) - - Show Bio

If you are waiting to see Hulk speak....then 6 might be the issue for you.

And those first words.... o_O

#25 Posted by TheAcidSkull (17760 posts) - - Show Bio

If you are waiting to see Hulk speak....then 6 might be the issue for you.

And those first words.... o_O

That was awesome ;)

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#26 Edited by GreenScar1990 (555 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: What you call rude, I call being direct and providing positive critism. Anyways, I'm enjoying the series and hope for the best. I can only hope that Mark Waid delivers.

#27 Posted by ThatGuyWithHeadPhones (10874 posts) - - Show Bio

First Words: HULK IS WORTHY...Freaking Awesome

#28 Posted by TheAcidSkull (17760 posts) - - Show Bio

It's Not mindless, it is THE savage hulk, and the two are very different.

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#29 Posted by Lvenger (19048 posts) - - Show Bio

@greenscar1990: Trying to get Waid to write Hulk as an god like character who beats heralds, Thanos and Galactus for breakfast is being a tad rude I'm afriad. He's already said he can't and won't write an uber powerful version of the Hulk so you're out of luck there already.

#30 Posted by TheAcidSkull (17760 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

@greenscar1990: Trying to get Waid to write Hulk as an god like character who beats heralds, Thanos and Galactus for breakfast is being a tad rude I'm afriad. He's already said he can't and won't write an uber powerful version of the Hulk so you're out of luck there already.

Darn it :P

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#31 Posted by Lvenger (19048 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

@greenscar1990: Trying to get Waid to write Hulk as an god like character who beats heralds, Thanos and Galactus for breakfast is being a tad rude I'm afriad. He's already said he can't and won't write an uber powerful version of the Hulk so you're out of luck there already.

Darn it :P

It was in his conversation with the greenscar. Don't you remember that thread where Waid said he wasn't up to writing Hulk at the level the greenscar was suggesting? It doesn't mean we won't get some impressive Hulk feats, just not the ones greenscar was hoping for.

#32 Posted by TheAcidSkull (17760 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

@theacidskull said:

@lvenger said:

@greenscar1990: Trying to get Waid to write Hulk as an god like character who beats heralds, Thanos and Galactus for breakfast is being a tad rude I'm afriad. He's already said he can't and won't write an uber powerful version of the Hulk so you're out of luck there already.

Darn it :P

It was in his conversation with the greenscar. Don't you remember that thread where Waid said he wasn't up to writing Hulk at the level the greenscar was suggesting? It doesn't mean we won't get some impressive Hulk feats, just not the ones greenscar was hoping for.

i know man, t'was only a joke :P

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#33 Edited by GreenScar1990 (555 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger Are you insane?! I didn't say Hulk should beat Galactus!!! And just so you know, Hulk can match Thanos or one of Galactus' Heralds in a fight, dude. That's nothing new. Hulk can hang and has with gods like Thor & Herc, cosmic beings like Thanos and Surfer. You're putting words in my mouth! Positive critism is not telling anyone how to write, nor is being direct with a writer. We buy comics, therefore we are the customers, and as such we should give feedback for the products we purchase.

Positive critism, no matter how blunt, helps writers become better.

You don't like my approach?

Fine.

Don't care.

Deal with it.

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