@db14 said:
Even Greg effing Pak, the guy who wrote the strongest Hulk ever, acknowledged that even Hulk has it's limit and he will never be able to defeat the likes of Zeus or Galactus.
And against some people, he just shouldn't win. Ever.
That includes people with a more varied powerset like Gladiator or Thor or people that normally are immune to physical damage (like Juggernaut).
You have a good point.
Unlimited/Incalculable strength
I will post this one last time,then that's it.
I post in the hulk forum recently but i decided to reply again to this subject,but in another hulk thread instead.I did it first in the battle forum for but this should be in the hulk forum.
I changed my mind again for now and and will say for marvel and dc thier is such a thing as limitless strength as long as hulk is not the only one to potentially have it.
Oh and this is for the nerds one more time who believe hulk and superman is the strongest,because they are not.There are other characters that were created to be just as strong or stronger the hulk and superman.
Example,the blue marvel's writer created blue marvel to be stronger then post-crisis and new 52 superman and he is stronger then superman.
Blue marvel has Incalculable strength and is at least as strong or stronger then hulk.
Blue marvel
Blue Marvel's powers are a result of being mutated, by radiation generated from the then unstable event horizon to the Negative Zone. His powers make him a force to be reckoned with, and one of the strongest beings in the Universe. He was considered to be an Alpha Level Threat by Captain America and Tony Stark.
Incalculable Strength: Blue Marvel possesses vast levels of superhuman strength, and is stated to be in the same league as Sentry, Hulk, and Thor strength wise; Blue Marvel has the potential to be the most powerful hero on Earth. He was seen effortlessly lifting the 1960 era's American warship 'Enterprise' which weighs over 93,000 tons, but is capable of greater feats of strength, as shown when he easily moved a meteor "easily the size of Arkansas". Blue Marvel is capable of lifting far in excess of 100 tons easily, as shown when he's lifted a disabled battleship weighing 100,000 tons and flew it back to port for repair. The Watcher said that Blue Marvel could have "split the moon in two" with one blow. Prince Namor himself stated that after Blue Marvel's long hiatus, that only the Hulk and Thor have hit him as hard. Blue Marvel went toe to toe with Sentry, as well as with the rest of the Avengers; he knocked Sentry unconscious into orbit in a single blow, for several minutes. Sentry barely beat Blue Marvel, requiring the distraction of a prolonged and exhausting fight with The Avengers including Wonder Man, Ms. Marvel, Ares and Iron Man to deliver a solid blow. The uppermost limits of Blue Marvel's strength is unknown, but it equals or exceeds the likes of a enraged Hulk, Sentry and others.
Incalculable means limitless.
Folks need to stop changing the definition to fit thier agenda.
Here is the definition of Incalculable.
http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/incalculabl
Here is marvel's definition for Incalculable/limitless.
Hulk is not the only one to have potential for limitless strength.
Worldwide Comics Encyclopedia Website
Superhuman Strength (Power)
Definition for Marvel Comics
In the Marvel universe, Superhuman strength is often measured by a Class structure based on the number of tons a character can lift of his or her head, from 1 to 100 (Class 20, Class 50, Class 100, etc). Characters who can lift more than 100 tons often have incalculable or unlimited strength.
https://sites.google.com/site/gmanemwwcomicsenc/home/chapters-of-the-encyclopedia/by-categories/powers-category/Superhuman-Strength-Power
and
Superpower Wiki
Absolute Strength
The user possesses a limitless level of strength and offensive power that can distort or do immense damage to anything in existence. Sub-power of Absolute Condition. The highest form of Enhanced Strength.
Also Called
Cosmic Strength
Godlike Strength
Immeasurable Strength
Incalculable Strength
Incomprehensible Strength
Infinite Strength
Limitless Strength
Meta Strength
True Strength
Ultimate Strength
Unlimited Strength
Limitations
Though their level of strength is limitless, their level of stamina and endurance may be steadily exhausted/drained by their opponents over time.
The user may need to focus their force to do the required damage.
Those with Absolute Defense can possibly nullify the impact of the user's blow.
Without a proper restrain in strength, user can destroy their surroundings in the shockwaves they create.
Not all infinities are equal: some users of this power may still be weaker than others.
To read more click link below.
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Absolute_Strength
Hulk is not the only one to have potential for limitless strength
Strength Scale - Marvel Comics Database
Potentially incalculable, able to lift in excess of 100 tons
I repeat.
Hulk is not the only one to have potential for limitless strength.
Marvel's definition -Incalculable is the same as limitless.
So using marvel definition and the dictionary above Incalculable is the same as limitless.
So here are other marvel characters that have limitless or the potential for limitless strength.
Potentially incalculable, able to lift in excess of 100 tons
Absorbing Man (depending on his body composition)
Atum[
A-Bomb - 100 tons
Abomination 200 tons
Abraxas
Adversary
Agamotto
Ajax
Akhenaten
Apocalypse
Apocalypse Beast
Ares - (When wearing the gauntlets of Ares)
Atlas (Erik Josten)
Beta Ray Bill
Beyonder
Blackheart
Blue Marvel
Bor Burison
Captain Axis
Colossus
Darkoth (strength greatest while in Otherworld)
Dragon Man
Ego
Galactus
Gilgamesh
Gladiator (While his confidence is at its peak)
Groot
Hela (Provided she wears her cloak)
Hercules
Hulk (All Incarnations while in an enraged emotional state)
Hulk 2099 (He has a base strength level of 150 tons and his strength increases as he becomes angrier)
Iron Man -(While wearing the Hulkbuster Iron Man armor)
Juggernaut
Kurse
Living Tribunal
Lyra (through meditation)
Count Nefaria
Maxam (At his maximum size)
Thor
Nova (While supplementing his strength with the full might of the Nova Force)
Sentry
Thanos
Odin Borson (while supplementing his strength with the Odinforce)
Skaar (While in an enraged emotional state)
To see more open link
http://marvel.wikia.com/Strength_Scale
For More characters see here too.
Incalculable Strength - Marvel Comics Database
http://marvel.wikia.com/Category:Incalculable_Strength
Note- some others are left out but need to be on the list inside the link, but you get idea.
Here is the dc comics one for potentially Incalculable Strength/limitless Strength
Strength Scale information - The Full Wiki
http://misc.thefullwiki.org/Strength_Scale
Anyway after this i am not reading replies to my post here.
So it's best not to waste your time replying to my post.
That's it for it me.
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