That's fine with me, Rulk was always supposed to be slightly stronger than Hulk at base strength, so it shouldn't be a one shot victory....however as Rulk overheats as he exerts himself and Hulk just gets stronger, the green one should win eventually! Is this their first fight since the famous one in the Loeb era?

@bezza: yep, I think it is.

Thinking about it, that could be why he wants training from ironfist; so he can kick rulks ass in round 2

HULK #10

OMEGA HULK + RED HULK = MASS SMASH DESTRUCTION!

• MATT MURDOCK VERSUS DOC GREEN in an oral argument.

• RED HULK VERSUS DOC GREEN in the opposite of the first disagreement.

• Something bad happens at the BEEHIVE. (Hint: see above)

Cool

Are we allowed to repost more than 3 pages of preview pages from articles? Doesn't that break the new scan rule now?

Well, today is the day!

Hulk #10 hits the shelves!

Doc Green vs. Red Hulk!!!!

Well, I can't say I'm happy about the way rulk and hulks fight went. But it's nice to know that doc green planned for it go that way.

@greenscar1990: I'm guessing that he'll cut loose eventually, I think something bad might happen to Lyra next issue (as in more bad than just being depowered). The cover and tag lines are making it seem quite brutal.

And yeah, I can't wait for doc greens eventual fight with the avengers.

@thedailybagel: I wouldn't be surprised if Doc Green takes a more ruthless approach to dealing with those left standing in his way. He was willing to give a pass to Rick (his best friend), Skaar (his beloved son), and Betty (his former love). And I can see Doc G giving the same treatment to Jen (who is more like a sister to him than a cousin).

Lyra and Red Hulk, on the other hand? It doesn't look good for either of them. Lyra didn't want anything to do with her father, resented the fact she had a biological father, and thus never really bonded with Banner/Hulk. I would be quite surprised if Doc G were to grant her mercy and simply depower her.

And Red Hulk/General Ross, his most detested enemy, I see him meeting a very brutal, bloody demise at the hands of the Hulk when they encounter one another next.

@greenscar1990: well Lyra and banner/hulk bonded with Lyra quite a bit back in paks run, but I think it might have something to do with doc green having a maestro like outburst. As for rulk, even if he does it won't be for very long. Marvel wouldn't want to let him go, same thing with Jen tbh (who should hopefully have the avengers at her back when she takes on hulk).

Cant wait to get my copy next week, annoyed that I read the spoilers on here first!!! Doh! Sounds like a great fight and this is turning out to be a great Hulk story, well done Duggan.

@bezza: You're sure to like it. Besides the fight, it was mostly a set-up issue. I'm more looking forward to the following issue involving Lyra. It should prove quite interesting when Doc Green confronts her.

I wonder what @raynorj thinks of the recent Hulk issues? It's been awhile since we've seen him on these boards. He's a Hulk fan like the rest of us and is pretty easy to have a discussion with. If you're still around, dude, give us a shout-out!

At some point with Secret wars 2015 coming and I know people might find me crazy because about what I will say but I think even if she hulk is selling well I think doc green will depower everybody. If marvel finds that they messed up they will bring her back in the new world. I think marvel wants to trim down on their comics and destroying all alternate unis. I think Lyra might actually disapear from the MU when she gets depowered for some reason. I think we might see the rise of Maestro maybe before time runs out. DOC G might even take out the avengers a bit before time runs out. Well we will have to see but i am seriously enjoying what I am seeing right now. I Just hope they won't finish this run with some weak conclusion. I mean it is maestro we are talking about now. Or i hope so. So i better see some major smashing.

I think in the new marvel everybody will have their own little universe so it will give marvel freedom to lets say have Hulk beat every other MU characters without actually doing it. So whatever comics you follow will be their own little universe. The way they present it seems a bit that way. There will be a planet hulk like run and a maestro run in their own respective uni. Like I said let's say Hulk kills thor and all the other avengers it will take place in his own comic or part of his uni. Seems like the battlegrounds or the map of the world is actually universes of their own. Like I said it would give marvel freedom to please their fans by making each comic's heros be the hero of their realm without impacting readers of other unis. The way I see it is that having multiple unis in one makes everything canon and not at the same time. In the future imperect universe maestro kills every other MU char. It will be canon but not at the same time if you read another section of the battleground. Since multiple planes exist in the same one, everything becomes canon on that particular plane your are reading. So I cpuld say Maestro killed everybody but then he didn't at the same time since they exist in this universe but on another plane.

I was thinking that, where is he?

I got to read issue 10 yesterday and a few thoughts...it did appear for the first part of the fight that DR Green was taking a genuine beating and I wasn't quite sure how Rulk was able to break Hulk's arm. That hasn't happened before (Hulk's arm breaking) in my memory and suggests Hulk is a little bit "nerfed" in this incarnation. Is it because Doc Green is actually quite calm for most of the time and therefore his strength is not as high as a properly raged Hulk?. The end sequence made it clear Doc Green had "thrown the fight" but, hmm, not sure about a) the damage that got inflicted on him and b) the time it took for his swollen face and injuries to heal up....seems his healing factor isn't as fast as usual.. TBH during this fight, it seems Hulk's durability has taken a major step back, something I am sure our Superman fan Hulk readers would have probably noted !!! lol !

thoughts...???

@bezza: rulk broke his arm in their first fight as well.

There's not much argument for Hulk haters here. Doc Green needed to lure Rulk and threw the fight. Rulk needed a feeling of winning and Doc Green knows very well the Rulk is a tactician so to accomplish that he needed to give Rulk a false sense of victory.

@thedailybagel:

True, but that was Loeb force inspired Rulk! In the later story, I seem to recall he got quite a bad beating. Anyway I am not unhappy with it as I look forward to the next instalment when I am sure Doc Green will dish out one hell of a beating to Rulk!

Hulk vs Thanos 2, someone has gotten to have read it, any good? I haven't been able to get to the shop today :(

Thanks @greenscar1990

Very disappointing to hear. ;(

Another Title doesn't equal story type of comics...

They should have called it Hulk vs Thanos in virtual reality. Kinda sucks for hulk fans too since Hulk was very weakened. There is still 2 books left.

Welp, that sounds utterly disappointing. At least the main book is legit.

Should have stuck with my original prediction that there wouldnt be a proper fight between the two. However when the story went from a Savage Hulk arc to a mini that was literally called "Hulk vs Thanos" I was sure they would have to have at least one legit battle.

I'm not losing hope though. There are still 2 books left and when hulk gets out, I'm pretty sure he will be enraged.

@greenscar1990:

I agree that this is a very disappointing series so far after all that hype, but did you really expect Hulk to have a good showing against Thanos, because I didn't. Someone who can smile off a full hammer blow from Thor and almost kill the Silver Surfer is not going to be intimidated by the Hulk. What is disappointing is that we are half way through the series and Hulk has been neutralised throughout.

There is so much hype from Marvel these days and rarely do they seem to actually deliver!

Good job the main title is going from strength to strength. I got Issue 10 yesterday and enjoyed it immensely!

Plus he keeps promoting that shitty Pip or w/e his name. He did more helpful shit than Hulk.

I agree that this is a very disappointing series so far after all that hype, but did you really expect Hulk to have a good showing against Thanos, because I didn't. Someone who can smile off a full hammer blow from Thor and almost kill the Silver Surfer is not going to be intimidated by the Hulk.

1. You have just described Rulk - he smiled after taking a killing double handed Mjolnir strike to the face from an Odin-powered Thor and outright killed the Silver Surfer before time was redone. In contrast Thanos was arguably more effected by the shot he took from Thor in Infinity.
2. Thanos has himself stated (under Starlin) that he is wary of the Hulk because of his dynamic strength.

@fifthchild: that same thor later came back and beat rulk within an inch of his life, and rulk himself said thor would've killed him if hulk didn't interfere.

That's true but it's not like he's ever been scared of hulk in their actual encounters.

@fifthchild:

True, but I thought we take most of the early Loeb Rulk stuff with a pinch of salt. Didn't he also punch the Watcher or something? Later Rulk hasn't been anywhere near as convincing, in his Avengers outings he has got owned several times...

Preach, bro!

I tired of these Superman & Thor fans always underestimating and low-balling the Hulk.

What I find ironic is that they'll low-ball and ignore Rulk's feats when Loeb was writer, but when Loeb was writing for Superman everything is acknowledged and accepted. Sounds very hypocritical, don't you think?

Since Last Days are happening in May. I truly hope Hulk well Doc Green is the cause of it all. Just to piss of all haters.

I'm kinda waiting for doc green to actually let loose, and I think he's going to do exactly that with Lyra.

@thedailybagel: I seriously doubt he is gonna cut loose on Lyra... Why would he?

@atheistknowledge: he might have one of those rage outbursts he's been having, only worse. And might accidently hurt her badly. Not to mention the previews are teasing something bad is gonna happen, saying things like 'mistakes are made' and 'no happy endings here'.

@thedailybagel: Yea i guess that is surely a possibility, though unfortunate i rather he cut loose on Rulk the issue before then on someone like Lyra... I really enjoy Duggans witting but yea Doc Green needs to cut loose already. Whether strength or intellect is his greatest weapon, whether he is more calm and calculated then any other persona he is still a Hulk. I hope this really shows once round 2 of Doc Green vs Rulk happens. I am keeping my fingers crossed that he actually kills Ross.

@atheistknowledge:

I agree.

General Ross has hunted and tormented Banner/Hulk for many, many years... even before becoming the Red Hulk. Not only that, but Ross also put everyone close to him & Banner, including his own daughter, through it all. And let's not forget the countless lives that were lost or put in danger because of his hunting of Hulk/Banner just to satisfy his ego.

Needless to say, if Doc G/Hulk kills Red Hulk/Ross, I'll be more than happy to witness it. He has it coming. Big time.

I've also noticed, thanks to @jaxthejester_2014, that Gerry Duggan writes Red Hulk as he was in Loeb's initial run. I'm not talking about dialogue, more of in the terms of power portrayal. Even without his absorption powers, Red Hulk during Loeb's run was a pretty formidable powerhouse.

Plus, as most of you've noticed, Doc G lacks the rage, power, ferocity and battle tactics/attitude of the Green Scar (and various other) Hulk personas. He isn't attuned to fighting, thus why he's seeking out Iron Fist for some lethal MMA training. But I also have a feeling that Doc G is gonna eventually snap and enter a dangerous, Maestro-like outburst of rage. And considering how easily Maestro toyed with and pummeled the Merged/Professor Hulk persona, who has went against and stalemated and even defeated the likes of fully-powered Juggernaut & Thor, that's an intimidating & frightening level of power.

If that happens when Hulk/Doc G & Rulk clash in the next round, I can pretty much see Doc G brutally battering, shattering, slaughtering, and killing General Ross/Red Hulk without much trouble. I'm hoping and praying that will be the outcome, as many of us would love nothing more than to see the brutal demise of the Red Hulk. I want it to happen. And quite honestly, it needs to happen. If there's one Hulk that needs to stay gone permanently, it's General Ross/Rulk.

I think when they mean science goes wrong That Lyra will either die or disapear. Since she was created in the future with past Hulk dna something will go wrong when he depowers her. Something will go wrong i'm sure with Lyra's depowering.

@greenscar1990:

Do you think Rulk still has his absorbtion powers in this series? I must admit I don't want Ross killed, he is a huge part of Hulk-Lore...but yeah, I do want him to do a real number on Rulk....Its time Doc Green cut loose, coz us Hulk fans are lacking any real Hulk smash in Hulk stories right now, what with Hulk v Thanos failing to live up to hype.

@bezza: I believe he still does, but he rarely uses them. Last time he tried to use them against Omegex, the planet-killer robots own absorption power & Rulk's own cancelled each other out. Not that it will save him from Hulk/Doc Green in their next encounter. Especially if Doc G cuts loose and goes Maestro on his big red butt!

I can tell you that A LOT of people want to see Hulk/Doc G kill Red Hulk. He's had this coming for a very, very long time, so I wouldn't oppose to it happening. Besides, it's something this series needs. A real brutal shocking scene where Rulk is battered, shattered, humbled, and beaten in every way imaginable until Doc G puts him down permanently. I mean, unlike other Hulks such as Skaar & Lyra & Jen, General Ross/Red Hulk has no true place in the Marvel Universe. He isn't needed, just as Betty & Rick as Hulks aren't necessary. But his death could serve as a catalyst for Betty and others to take arms up against, or perhaps in some cases fight alongside, Doc Green/Hulk.

It reminds me of a bit of dialogue exchanged between Maestro & Betty in PAD's graphic novel- Incredible Hulk: What Savage Beast.

Maestro: I could kill you. But I'd rather let you live, knowing you'll never see him again. A mild payback, bitch, for your betrayal.

Betty: I never betrayed you! Never!

Maestro: Don't worry. You will.

And we all know that Red Hulk, nor any other being in the Marvel Universe, isn't going to be able to stop Doc Green/Hulk. If anyone has a chance, if anyone is going to stop Doc G/Hulk... it's Banner. Not Ross, not Richards, not Doom, not Thanos... Banner.

April 2015 Hulk Solicitations

Gerry Duggan talks about Doc Green, also conforms that he will keep on writing Hulk even after the Omega Hulk story ends.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=58978