Compared to Richards, Stark, Pym, etc.

" Compared to Richards, Stark, Pym, etc. "

" @Mr.Hulk_Smashin'!: Who's the smartest? Stark? "

According to Osborn, Bruce banner is ranked as the fourth smartest man alive

1. Richards
2. Doom
3. Pym
4. Stark
5. Banner

its funny I've noticed that that none of the top smart people are really strong in the three key things that power everyone (genetics, mystic arts, and technology), most are just really good at one or two.......

Banner smartest one there is!

I would say he is the 4th smartest HERO in the MU. It wasnt until Richards, Stark, Pym, Black Panther, and Hank McCoy were all captured did he say that he was now the smartest person left uncaptured.  
 
I think he thinks of himself as the 4th smartest but also thinks that Richards, Stark, and Pym all under estimate him.

We all agree that Richards and Von Doom are smartest and 2nd smartest respectively. I would place Pym and BP below Banner, and Stark above him.

under reed and cable above beast mr sinister doom amadeus cho pym and stark. but they are all specialists in their respective field. even richards admitted that pym was the absolute best geneticist i believe it was. that was in a f4 comic where they had panther and storm filling in. although he did say it would only take 2 weeks for reed to master pyms level of ability in that field. marvel.com had on cable's bio that his smarts rivaled that of even reed richards. he is from the future so he has a different level of knowledge and understanding.

" Banner smartest one there is! "

i think he is on of the best heroes there is nowadays

is banner's intellect on par with leader?

" Banner smartest one there is! "

1. Mr Fantastic
2. Doom
3. Pym(Scientist Supreme)
4. Banner
5. Tony Stark
6. Black Panther
7. Leader
8. Professor x
9. Peter Parker
10. Beast
 
Atleast that's the way I would see it. But I'm no expert.

Hm... If we're talking overall knowledge, I believe this should be the list- 
 
1. Dr. Doom- Not only is he a genius is just about every way Reed is, the man knows his magic. Something Reed does not. 
2. Mr. Fantastic- For Obvious reasons 
3. Hank Pym- Scientist Supreme. The man Reed goes to when he needs help 
4. Tony Stark- Not only is he a genius, but he's extremely creative 
5. Bruce Banner- A genius and an expert on radiation 
6. The Leader- Obvious reasons 
7. Amadeus Cho- Apparently the 7th smartest person on the planet 
8. Dr. Strange- Master of the Mystic Arts 
9. Valeria Richards- Not even 10 years old, but has shown to be on par with the likes of Reed and Doom 
10. Norman Osborn- Brilliant tech  designer and scientist
11. Mr. Sinister- An expert on genetics. 
12. Beast& Prof. X- Second to Sinister on genetics, but so close to each other 
13. Black Panther- Attended the best institutions on the planet and is a gifted scientist. 
14. Spider-Man- For right now, he is lower on the list, but if he had more time and the finances, he'd be at least #4. 
15. Dr. Octopus- Gifted scientist and inventor 
 
I'm sure there will be arguments on this list, but you have to admit that these 15 are indeed up there.

"Hm... If we're talking overall knowledge, I believe this should be the list-  1. Dr. Doom- Not only is he a genius is just about every way Reed is, the man knows his magic. Something Reed does not. 2. Mr. Fantastic- For Obvious reasons 3. Hank Pym- Scientist Supreme. The man Reed goes to when he needs help 4. Tony Stark- Not only is he a genius, but he's extremely creative 5. Bruce Banner- A genius and an expert on radiation 6. The Leader- Obvious reasons 7. Amadeus Cho- Apparently the 7th smartest person on the planet 8. Dr. Strange- Master of the Mystic Arts 9. Valeria Richards- Not even 10 years old, but has shown to be on par with the likes of Reed and Doom 10. Norman Osborn- Brilliant tech  designer and scientist11. Mr. Sinister- An expert on genetics. 12. Beast& Prof. X- Second to Sinister on genetics, but so close to each other 13. Black Panther- Attended the best institutions on the planet and is a gifted scientist. 14. Spider-Man- For right now, he is lower on the list, but if he had more time and the finances, he'd be at least #4. 15. Dr. Octopus- Gifted scientist and inventor  I'm sure there will be arguments on this list, but you have to admit that these 15 are indeed up there. "

Why must there be a smartest anyway? We can state which ones are genius but they really are on the same ground even though one outsmart the other now and then, but that can go both way.

The Toad men created a machine to find the smartest man on earth, It brought Bruce to them. 

Banner is in the top five easily. On another note the #1 & 2 position with Reed and Doom can go either way but most days id give it to Reed.

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1. Richards
2. Doom
3. Pym
4. Stark
5. Banner

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1) Reed Richards 
2) Doctor Doom 
3) Tony Stark 
4) Bruce Banner 
5) Hank Pym 
6) Black Panther  
7) Amadeus Cho and Vali Halfling
9) Peter Parker 
10) Hank McCoy 
 
I know people will disagree with me about my number 9, but people need to recognize Peter is very intelligent and very close in intellect to the rest of them. He created his webs, suits, web shooters and tons more!  If Peter had more time and money he might be able to break the top 5.

Now it's true that peter is an extremely intelligent person but he's no super genius. Unless you show something proving otherwise.

remember a while back when he created his own tech suit? That takes a lot of smarts!

He can tie his shoe laces. All by himself. No help. Maybe a little help. 

but even Stark has said Banner is THE smartest person he knows.. in terms of RAW brain power, potential, the ability he displays in his colleagues specialist fields that they are supposedly "experts" in as well as being the world leader (before he went on the run) in Physics/Super String Theory.

@THEBlaqueBasterd said:

but even Stark has said Banner is THE smartest person he knows.. in terms of RAW brain power, potential, the ability he displays in his colleagues specialist fields that they are supposedly "experts" in as well as being the world leader (before he went on the run) in Physics/Super String Theory.

When did Stark say that? Pic required. Also I think we'll see how intelligent Banner can get with the reboot of the serie, since they're gonna be separated and all.

@Super_Gui_1 said:

@THEBlaqueBasterd said:

but even Stark has said Banner is THE smartest person he knows.. in terms of RAW brain power, potential, the ability he displays in his colleagues specialist fields that they are supposedly "experts" in as well as being the world leader (before he went on the run) in Physics/Super String Theory.

When did Stark say that? Pic required. Also I think we'll see how intelligent Banner can get with the reboot of the serie, since they're gonna be separated and all.

Banner is a capable hero without having to become Hulk. Some of his inventions are impressive. His force shield generator (can withstand blows from other Hulks & augments his own strength) and old power taser are quite effective!

Isn't Reeds daughter smarter then, Reed?  

No. Screw what they say; that little girl hasn't displayed any major feats that I'm aware of. I don't know what they're trying to pull by saying she is smarter than Reed. That's just a bunch of pull. I don't even consider her smarter than Doom, Pym, T'challa, Stark, or Banner. Her intelligence needs to be inhibited. I'm tired of hearing her name every time I read a intellectual Marvel debate.

Anyone know Damian Wayne? The cool kid who got killed off? Well, let's kill this fool off too. Because she's just pissing me off.

According to Reed, Banner is smarter than Stark and Pym, placing him as the third smartest man on the planet. I am a firm believer that Banner would have EVEN MORE intellectual feats if he wasn't Hulk, because Banner + good resources > Pym + good resources. (Yeah, I did a little research and have changed my opinion) When Banner was in his late teens, he was building Gamma bombs (which is a better feat than either Tony Stark, Peter Parker or Reed Richards (as far as I know) displayed in their late teens).

I'm also tired of people saying stuff like "Reed, Doom, and Pym are the top minds. Banner and Tony are slightly behind." Maybe Tony, but Banner has proven that he is smarter than Tony in recent story arcs, and, if it weren't for Hulk, he would be the guy Reed Richards (who, if I might, isn't ****ing omniscient) goes to when he needs help, instead of Pym. Pym is just Banner's replacement... not to downplay on Pym's intelligence though; I just no longer think that Pym is smarter than Banner.

People, Banner has an incalculable intellect... meaning that his brain's processing power is pass off-the-charts. He may not be smarter than Reed or Victor, but he's pretty damn close.

As smart as T'Challa, Stark and Pym. But of course fanboys will compare him to Reed and Doom while they have no idea that those 4 are kids compare to the two of them.