The one thing that annoys me really bad about Avengers books is they often throw character development out the window just to let Hulk have his big moment. Hulk gets mad and all the Avengers have trouble putting him down ALL OF THEM!? Or Hulk beats people that are impossible for him to beat like Gladiator, or WWH beating everyone like Strange, Sentry and all the X-Men.

I don't mind him beating BRB in his own movie cos after all its his own movie and the film was well acted and well animated

bu the comics are really tiring to read, he's not such any interesting or cool character anymore. i'm sick of him coming into other books and f*****g them up. I hate how most flying or very fast people he fights seem to still want to trade shots with him like a brawler.

Or maybe he was just that strong?

His victory over Sentry was PIS. Don't let it worry you. That fight was Shakespearean in quality compared to the Sentry's showing in Siege.

The angrier Hulk get, the stronger he gets...the more people pounding on him, the madder he's going to get thus making him stronger.  If you want to talk about a Hulk "beating everyone" Look at Red Hulk's track record :P

Personally I am tired of people saying Hulk can't beat someone because of (Insert BULL here).

Does anyone remember the MAD magazine version of Superman vs. Hulk? Superman beat Hulk by tickling him until he turned back into Banner, and then putting him through a building. Makes me wonder why more people don't try just showing Hulk pictures of kittens or something...

The angrier Hulk get, the stronger he gets...the more people pounding on him, the madder he's going to get thus making him stronger.  If you want to talk about a Hulk "beating everyone" Look at Red Hulk's track record :P

Personally I am tired of people saying Hulk can't beat someone because of (Insert BULL here).

I'm pretty sure only the Super X from Godzilla 1985 could beat the Hulk. First it would shoot off something shiny and fire rounds of cadmium into his gums as he's distracted, preferably where the molars are for optimal potency. Repeat this three times and he'll crash into a building.

Does anyone remember the MAD magazine version of Superman vs. Hulk? Superman beat Hulk by tickling him until he turned back into Banner, and then putting him through a building. Makes me wonder why more people don't try just showing Hulk pictures of kittens or something...

Personally I am tired of people saying Hulk can't beat someone because of (Insert BULL here).

@Humansmurf said:

Personally I am tired of people saying Hulk can't beat someone because of (Insert BULL here).

This. Hulk is a beast in the comics but on a lot of Battleboards people tend to think everyone else forgets their powers against him. But by the same token Hulks dynamic strength doesnt often get played up as much when he fights other name characters. Hulks a character with massive potential and a fair bit of untapped versatility of his own (his powers are basically the manifestation of his subconscious mind). He is much more than someone like Hercules for example IMO. Crazy regeneration, and the ability to become more powerful in the face of adversity, stress and emotional stimuli are big factors in a fight. I dont think the fact that you can shoot beams out of your eyes or whatever should necessarily makes your chances that much better against him and not everyone wants to fight by basically staying well out of reach of their opponent or trying to throw them into space.    

I feel he is fairly represented. Most popular characters and long staying characters get props. His plots and characterization often rely on that aspect as well, ditto Supes (as opposed to the X-Men) and Hulk has had some fairly embarrassing bumps along the way. 

I'm fine with hulk at the moment but still he shouldn't have beaten gladiator at least not without an epic battle i'm just pissed off with thor being treated like crap by marvel

His victory over Sentry was PIS.

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

His victory over Sentry was PIS.

Then again there was that little "more angrier than usual because of Caiera", so it's not as PIS as it should be. And what does PIS mean ? I get it in context but is it an achronym for something ?

Doc Strange was whooping him until his morals kicked in.

But yes, I do hate the "Hulk's anger overcomes all obstacles" mentality that is often used by writers.

If you don't know what PIS means, how can you say that the Sentry/Hulk fight wasn't 'as PIS as it should be'?  It means Plot Induced Stupidity, btw.

@Green Skin said:

If you don't know what PIS means, how can you say that the Sentry/Hulk fight wasn't 'as PIS as it should be'?  It means Plot Induced Stupidity, btw.

If you had read my post you would've known that I understand it in context, I saw it being mentioned a Wonder Woman thread where there were images of her punching The Flash and Martian Manhunter, which shouldn't happen, so I kinda got the idea of what PIS sort of meant.

But Hulk is strongest there is... he should win all fights, no?

But Hulk is strongest there is... he should win all fights, no?

Sentry should have been able to take him down in WWH. 

Sentry should have been able to take him down in WWH. 

Actually Hulk is resistant to telepathy (mind control) if you read that crossover with x-men they did try to stop him by telepathy.

that's the thing that annoys me the most about hulk....he reminds me of when you are a kid and you play cops and robbers or cowboys and indians with your friends, you shoot one of your friends and instead of falling down dead he says "nuh uh, that didn't kill me cause i have special bullet proof armor on!' like dude, no you don't, your dead, just get over it, i'm tired of hulk defeating people just because "he gets madder"  
 
here is a list of people he shouldn't beat 
 
 
-Thor 
-Sentry 
-Dr. Strange 
-Black Bolt 
- Professor Xavier (how does being physically strong suddenly give you telepathy resistance??) 
-Gladiator 
- any cosmic character 
 
 
yet he has pretty much beat all of these guys, it's idiotic, at the end of the day, no matter how mad he is, he's still a human, with human weaknesses 

The one thing that annoys me really bad about Avengers books is they often throw character development out the window just to let Hulk have his big moment. Hulk gets mad and all the Avengers have trouble putting him down ALL OF THEM!? Or Hulk beats people that are impossible for him to beat like Gladiator, or WWH beating everyone like Strange, Sentry and all the X-Men.

I don't mind him beating BRB in his own movie cos after all its his own movie and the film was well acted and well animated

bu the comics are really tiring to read, he's not such any interesting or cool character anymore. i'm sick of him coming into other books and f*****g them up. I hate how most flying or very fast people he fights seem to still want to trade shots with him like a brawler.

I'm glad Hulk beat Sentry... I hate that guy.  As for the people he beat in WWH, it wasn't really WIS. Out of Iron Man, Fantastic Four, Black Bolt, and Dr. Strange, I really only see Dr. Strange and maybe Black Bolt as a threat to him.  At the levels Hulk was at though I think he could take Black Bolt. If Hulk didn't trick Strange and break his hands... he wouldn't really stand a chance of winning that fight. Now then, who on the X-Men can stand up to the Hulk besides telepaths? I think how that fight played out is how it should have. If you really want WIS, Red Hulk is for you. Punched out the Watcher, killed Terrax, Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange, Baron Mordo, and also punched out the Grandmaster. Now that is WIS.

@Dormammu said:

I'm glad Hulk beat Sentry... I hate that guy.  As for the people he beat in WWH, it wasn't really WIS. Out of Iron Man, Fantastic Four, Black Bolt, and Dr. Strange, I really only see Dr. Strange and maybe Black Bolt as a threat to him.  At the levels Hulk was at though I think he could take Black Bolt. If Hulk didn't trick Strange and break his hands... he wouldn't really stand a chance of winning that fight. Now then, who on the X-Men can stand up to the Hulk besides telepaths? I think how that fight played out is how it should have. If you really want WIS, Red Hulk is for you. Punched out the Watcher, killed Terrax, Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange, Baron Mordo, and also punched out the Grandmaster. Now that is WIS.

Don't forget that Blackbolt was a skrull and couldn't have been as powerful as the REAL Blackbolt. Also Red Hulk punching the Watcher,Killing Terrax,Silver Surfer (from another universe),owning the Grandmaster and Mordo...those are all things he can ACTUALLY do.

@Vance Astro said:

@Dormammu said:

I'm glad Hulk beat Sentry... I hate that guy.  As for the people he beat in WWH, it wasn't really WIS. Out of Iron Man, Fantastic Four, Black Bolt, and Dr. Strange, I really only see Dr. Strange and maybe Black Bolt as a threat to him.  At the levels Hulk was at though I think he could take Black Bolt. If Hulk didn't trick Strange and break his hands... he wouldn't really stand a chance of winning that fight. Now then, who on the X-Men can stand up to the Hulk besides telepaths? I think how that fight played out is how it should have. If you really want WIS, Red Hulk is for you. Punched out the Watcher, killed Terrax, Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange, Baron Mordo, and also punched out the Grandmaster. Now that is WIS.

Don't forget that Blackbolt was a skrull and couldn't have been as powerful as the REAL Blackbolt. Also Red Hulk punching the Watcher,Killing Terrax,Silver Surfer (from another universe),owning the Grandmaster and Mordo...those are all things he can ACTUALLY do.

I know he was a Skrull imposter, but I think at the levels he was at he would have beaten the real Black Bolt anyways. The things the Red Hulk did... he shouldn't have been able to do. Beating all those people then getting dominated by Wolverine... doesn't make much sense. Considering I see people saying Red Hulk had Loeb Force, I'm pretty sure lots of people consider those things WIS.

@Dormammu said:

@Vance Astro said:

@Dormammu said:

I'm glad Hulk beat Sentry... I hate that guy.  As for the people he beat in WWH, it wasn't really WIS. Out of Iron Man, Fantastic Four, Black Bolt, and Dr. Strange, I really only see Dr. Strange and maybe Black Bolt as a threat to him.  At the levels Hulk was at though I think he could take Black Bolt. If Hulk didn't trick Strange and break his hands... he wouldn't really stand a chance of winning that fight. Now then, who on the X-Men can stand up to the Hulk besides telepaths? I think how that fight played out is how it should have. If you really want WIS, Red Hulk is for you. Punched out the Watcher, killed Terrax, Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange, Baron Mordo, and also punched out the Grandmaster. Now that is WIS.

Don't forget that Blackbolt was a skrull and couldn't have been as powerful as the REAL Blackbolt. Also Red Hulk punching the Watcher,Killing Terrax,Silver Surfer (from another universe),owning the Grandmaster and Mordo...those are all things he can ACTUALLY do.

I know he was a Skrull imposter, but I think at the levels he was at he would have beaten the real Black Bolt anyways. The things the Red Hulk did... he shouldn't have been able to do. Beating all those people then getting dominated by Wolverine... doesn't make much sense. Considering I see people saying Red Hulk had Loeb Force, I'm pretty sure lots of people consider those things WIS.

There's no such thing as the Loeb Force.Rulk is strong enough to pull off all of those feats that were named.What happened against Wolverine has nothing to do with those things.Wolverine is a better fighter than Rulk,he's faster and has claws that can cut through virtually anything it's obvious he would have trouble with him.Those other feats aren't comparable.

There's no such thing as the Loeb Force.Rulk is strong enough to pull off all of those feats that were named.What happened against Wolverine has nothing to do with those things.Wolverine is a better fighter than Rulk,he's faster and has claws that can cut through virtually anything it's obvious he would have trouble with him.Those other feats aren't comparable.

You go ahead and think that...

@Dormammu said:
 
There's no such thing as the Loeb Force.Rulk is strong enough to pull off all of those feats that were named.What happened against Wolverine has nothing to do with those things.Wolverine is a better fighter than Rulk,he's faster and has claws that can cut through virtually anything it's obvious he would have trouble with him.Those other feats aren't comparable.

Or maybe he was just that strong?

 @Caligula said:

@ReVamp said:

@Caligula said:

Thor has had trouble with Hulk in less powered forms than WWH, so I doubt Thor would have made a huge difference.

Yeah, but that's just pure idiocy.

 

Speed Blitz doesn't mean a win against the Hulk. He is far too durable for that. plus Thor's Speed blitz is considerably less than most.

and sorry to break it to Thor fans. But Hulk has destroyed Thor numerous times.

Hulk is interesting but in the end he is just a strong guy. His strength has limits regardless of what you hear because once you go into a mindless rage further rage would not be possible. His powers end at arms reach.

Hulk is interesting but in the end he is just a strong guy. His strength has limits regardless of what you hear because once you go into a mindless rage further rage would not be possible. His powers end at arms reach.

Thor was always a jobber for Hulk

Thor was always a jobber for Hulk

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