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#51 Posted by John Valentine (16335 posts) - - Show Bio

Your theory doesn't hold together.

#52 Posted by Mercy_ (91942 posts) - - Show Bio
@xerox-kitty *Sighs* Is it really so hard for them to have an awesome original character and NOT screw it up?
#53 Posted by twilightend (20 posts) - - Show Bio

I see the possibilty of the Sinister/Pryor connection, I just find the fact that she wields the Phoenix Force now, when it was stated that Jean is and will be the most complete host combination with the Phoenix Force. I mean she has been named th White Phoenix of the Crown, so with that level of combination, why start all over with a new host? As a newborn her prescence cause Cerebra to explode, Hope's detection by other psychics seemed impossible. As a small child she was proficient in hand to hand combat and survival skills, and twin emblems of the phoenix Raptor appeared in her eyes. As a teen she showed breif glimpses of differnet powers, and it wasn't until she fought Bastion, that she kicked it into high gear. Her mom was never specifically stated to be a mutant, and we don't know who her biological dad is. Maybe, just maybe(I believe) she is a product of the Phoenix Force itself.
#54 Posted by SC (13739 posts) - - Show Bio

I can't see this playing out for one main reason. Current X-Editorial doesn't like overly complicated and continuity heavy characters running around, and I know that this is the X-Men, and half the characters they have a walking and talking complicated jumbles of continuity but I cite Rachel Grey and various credible sources on why she was left out of the X-Trilogy we had in recent years surrounding Hope. So I do think they are treating Hope as a new character, just trying to bond her to various other X-characters and X-Themes quickly, but nothing as complicated as adding cloning or Sinister or Maddy, and all that.  
Though, that just might be wishful thinking on my part *shrugs*

#55 Posted by Mercy_ (91942 posts) - - Show Bio
@John Valentine: How so? 
@SC: You could be right. 
#56 Posted by Kid_Omega_Prime (1278 posts) - - Show Bio

Here is a idea. What if hope is Jean Gray reincarnated?

#57 Posted by WarMachineMarkV (1214 posts) - - Show Bio

@The Dark Huntress said:

Illyana Rasputin and I were talking and a new theory was formulated.

I'm stating for the record that I HATE this theory, I think it's a badly contrived plot device and I hope to the comic book gods that it's not the direction that they're going in. So, here it is:

What if Hope isn't related to/ a reincarnation of Jean, but Madelyne instead (with Sinister having his hand in it as well)? If you think about it, it makes sense (at least it does to me).
  • Relationship with Cable - Cable is Maddy's son and is the adoptive father of Hope.
  • Alaska - Where is Maddy from? Oh yeah, Alaska.
  • The Marauders - If you've read Messiah CompleX (which I really hope you have, it was amazing. Fantastic art, great story), then you know that the Marauders were present in Alaska. Who's team is that again? Sinister's.
  • Phoenix Force - It seems that if you're a redheaded X-Man, you're going to get the Phoenix Force. Maddy, Jean and Rachel have all wielded it and it is now confirmed (after months of blatant hints) that Hope is.
  • The End of All - It is said by Bishop, that Hope will be the end of all, the destroyer, the one responsible for what happens to mutant kind (being put in camps). I could see that coming to fruition if Sinister gets his hands on her and she doesn't break free.

- This is easily one of the best thought out theories I have seen, kudos

- If your looking for the event that ends the Schism, this very well could be it, nothing like the threat of a Maddie clone/ Dark Phoenix to make everyone put grudges aside.

- I just want the endless cycle of Phoenix appearances to end, the story has been done into the ground. They can bring a Phoenix-less Jean back, coming back from the dead is a lot more acceptable when cosmic beings are involved

#58 Posted by Mercy_ (91942 posts) - - Show Bio
Here is a idea. What if hope is Jean Gray reincarnated?
Terrible idea.

@WarMachineMarkV Thanks!
#59 Posted by darklight78 (5 posts) - - Show Bio

What if hope is the daughter of Necrom(anti-phoenix) or she a "phoenix booby trap" of Necrom. we neve se the corpse and if the anti-phoenix is a portino of the PF in a corpse and jean with the Pf can comeback (in someway) why not necrom, he is more skilled, more dark, and is one of the "fathers" of the phoenix force.

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