Hope Summers.

#1 Posted by cracks (6781 posts) - - Show Bio

Apparently Stryfe noted that Hope Summers has a lot of potential to become a powerful mutant, perhaps more powerful than Stryfe or Cable could ever be.  Curious to see where Hope goes and where Hope ends up. 

#2 Posted by Stormultt (5317 posts) - - Show Bio

Hope is developing slowly to me i think shes key to jeans return as well.
#3 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - - Show Bio

I wish they would show what her power is already.

#4 Posted by sora_thekey (8154 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nobody said:
" I wish they would show what her power is already. "
A Phoenix-like powerful exploding power.... 
 
Because of um the whole when was born, y'know when Alaska exploded...
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#5 Posted by cracks (6781 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump.

#6 Posted by TheGuy (595 posts) - - Show Bio

Do we even know who her parents were yet?

#7 Posted by Son Of Storm (11252 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheGuy said:
" Do we even know who her parents were yet? "
Not that I know of.
#8 Posted by cracks (6781 posts) - - Show Bio
@sora_thekey: I never understood what Stryfe intended to do with Hope. 
#9 Posted by sora_thekey (8154 posts) - - Show Bio
@cracks: To tell you the truth I haven't read this story.. just read summaries and Wiki.....
 
but I'm going to start reading Cable... starting with #21!
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#10 Posted by xerox_kitty (15762 posts) - - Show Bio
@cracks said:
"I never understood what Stryfe intended to do with Hope.  "
I always got the impression that he wanted her for the same reason that Apocalypse wanted Stryfe when he was a boy... as an 'heir' to transfer his consciousness into in future & therefore ensuring his immortality.
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#11 Posted by sora_thekey (8154 posts) - - Show Bio
@xerox-kitty said:
" @cracks said:
"I never understood what Stryfe intended to do with Hope.  "
I always got the impression that he wanted her for the same reason that Apocalypse wanted Stryfe when he was a boy... as an 'heir' to transfer his consciousness into in future & therefore ensuring his immortality. "
That makes sense!
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#12 Posted by xerox_kitty (15762 posts) - - Show Bio
@sora_thekey: I can't remember if it was specifically stated that was Stryfe's plan.  I always felt that was going to be the direction they wanted to go in when I saw the cover of her wearing Stryfe's armour.  As if it was symbollic of what would happen to her. 
 

Cable #15
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#13 Edited by bioghost (1245 posts) - - Show Bio
#14 Posted by cracks (6781 posts) - - Show Bio
Interesting assessment.  This may be true. Stryfe definitely saw/sees a lot of potential in Hope.  Do you happen to know how many pages long Messiah War, in total, is?  Thanks.  
 
#15 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29499 posts) - - Show Bio
@xerox-kitty said:
"@sora_thekey: I can't remember if it was specifically stated that was Stryfe's plan.  I always felt that was going to be the direction they wanted to go in when I saw the cover of her wearing Stryfe's armour.  As if it was symbollic of what would happen to her. 
 

Cable #15
"


She's basically the trillionth telepathic character.  And do I see a mustache in the pic above my words? XD
 
#16 Posted by CATMANEXE (17052 posts) - - Show Bio
#17 Posted by cracks (6781 posts) - - Show Bio

Hope Summers may become like Rachel Grey.

#18 Posted by kai1309 (32 posts) - - Show Bio

WHAT IF SHE IS RACHEL OF THE 616-REALITY!!!!!
#19 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio
@kai1309 said:
" WHAT IF SHE IS RACHEL OF THE 616-REALITY!!!!! "
Rachel has no alternate reality counterparts, as seen in House of M: Uncanny X-Men.
#20 Posted by darkstorm1 (45 posts) - - Show Bio

I still believe she is the reincarnation of Jean Grey.  Different in her own right though.

#21 Posted by Edamame (27991 posts) - - Show Bio
@darkstorm1: Or Madelyne Pryor. 
#22 Posted by Erik (31695 posts) - - Show Bio

I would actually be pretty satisfied if Hope is the restored Jean Grey after having gathered all her "shattered pieces" from Endsong. But if that was the case, then there would be no Madelyne Pryor anymore because she was a part of Jean's consciousness from when the Phoenix Force died. The released essence made a pit stop to Madelyne at Sinister's lab before heading back to Jean, who was still in a cocoon/egg at the bottom of the river which gave Madelyne life in the first place.

#23 Posted by Edamame (27991 posts) - - Show Bio
@erik: 
Consider the following:
-Both initially appeared in Alaska
-Both seem to bear a strong resemblance to Jean Grey (for Maddie, the reason is obvious) and some connection to the Phoenix Force (I've always read that Madelyne "awakened" after Dark Phoenix killed herself, but I'm unsure where that is referenced).
-Making Hope be a resurrected Jean almost seems too easy. I expect a twist.
-Sinister, who created Madelyne and always seems interested in the Summers clan, was heavily involved in the story in which Hope appeared. Coincidence? Maybe. But it could be a big clue, as well.
-Madelyne was Cable's mother. Cable is raising Hope. Wouldn't that create some rather interesting symmetry?
-Bishop's apparent insanity and belief that Hope is some sort of catalyst for his own time would be slightly more understandable and believable if Hope were the Goblin Queen rather than simply Jean Grey, wouldn't they? Maybe she really will bring about some sort of ruin...
-Madelyne has really only returned intermittently since her death in Inferno, and it had gotten to the point that I'm not sure any of those appearances were actually her.
#24 Posted by Erik (31695 posts) - - Show Bio
@Edamame said:
" @erik:  Consider the following: -Both initially appeared in Alaska -Both seem to bear a strong resemblance to Jean Grey (for Maddie, the reason is obvious) and some connection to the Phoenix Force (I've always read that Madelyne "awakened" after Dark Phoenix killed herself, but I'm unsure where that is referenced). -Making Hope be a resurrected Jean almost seems too easy. I expect a twist. -Sinister, who created Madelyne and always seems interested in the Summers clan, was heavily involved in the story in which Hope appeared. Coincidence? Maybe. But it could be a big clue, as well. -Madelyne was Cable's mother. Cable is raising Hope. Wouldn't that create some rather interesting symmetry? -Bishop's apparent insanity and belief that Hope is some sort of catalyst for his own time would be slightly more understandable and believable if Hope were the Goblin Queen rather than simply Jean Grey, wouldn't they? Maybe she really will bring about some sort of ruin... -Madelyne has really only returned intermittently since her death in Inferno, and it had gotten to the point that I'm not sure any of those appearances were actually her. "
It was reinforced in Inferno where Sinister was telling her origin. She came to life when the Phoenix died. Most of Madelyne's appearances were in X-Man issues and she was basically a psychic ghost.
#25 Posted by Edamame (27991 posts) - - Show Bio
@erik: It was just some food for thought.  : ) 
#26 Posted by Erik (31695 posts) - - Show Bio

Hope rocks. 

#27 Posted by Edamame (27991 posts) - - Show Bio
@erik: She has a phobia of smiling robot soldiers and likes to peruse in stores.

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