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#1 Posted by Abattoir (847 posts) - - Show Bio

Is it me or does hope come off as a total dic^, to be honest I'm beginning to think she makes wolverine look darn right sociable. Just saying she's an @ssho&^

Not a big fan of her as you might of guessed already, heck even x-23 has a better personality. Maybe i should give the character a chance i don't know, what do you think

#2 Posted by Raiiyn (3523 posts) - - Show Bio

NO CHANCE NO CHANCE. I concur my friend. She is a horrible little miscreant and I hope she gets the marvel death sentence soon.

#3 Posted by TheGreyOutcastX (2051 posts) - - Show Bio

Hope is an acquired taste to say the least. I like her, but they need to develop the character better without the Messiah/Phoenix subplot attached. That is half the reason she acts like she does. Take away the Messiah crap, she could develop into a likeable character.

#4 Posted by BlackArmor (6141 posts) - - Show Bio

She's okay in Uncanny

#5 Posted by Skaddix (3114 posts) - - Show Bio

I hope she dies. Marvel screwed Bishop and killed Kurt for her. She is not worth it. And this event is a waste of time if she does not die.

#6 Posted by Mercy_ (92695 posts) - - Show Bio

Hope was awesome before coming to present time

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#7 Posted by RogueOracle (242 posts) - - Show Bio

In Generation Hope she was definitively not the Hope I fell in love with during Second Coming. In Uncanny she seems pretty cool though. I LOL'ed at her interaction with Namor during the Tabula Rasa arc.

#8 Posted by Mercy_ (92695 posts) - - Show Bio
@RogueOracle Did you read Cable?
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#9 Posted by RogueOracle (242 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mercy_: Yes:D She was the cutest thing ever!!! And she turned out really cool. I have no idea why they changed some really cool characterization on her. She was a cool redhead that I loved, but now I'm kind of iffy about her, depending on who's writing her.

#10 Posted by Soulstealer (825 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mercy_ said:

Hope was awesome before coming to present time

You're my favorite person ever. People always think I'm crazy for saying that, but Hope from Cable is not the Hope of now and it really doesn't make sense.

@RogueOracle said:

@Mercy_: Yes:D She was the cutest thing ever!!! And she turned out really cool. I have no idea why they changed some really cool characterization on her. She was a cool redhead that I loved, but now I'm kind of iffy about her, depending on who's writing her.

Agreed completely.

#11 Posted by xerogod (205 posts) - - Show Bio

@Abattoir: agreed!

#12 Posted by John Valentine (16310 posts) - - Show Bio

Curent Hope is a dick.

#13 Posted by SupremeHyperion (1527 posts) - - Show Bio

I definitely don't like her as an all powerful or focal character, there is little about her I really care to follow and I'm a little tired of the whole future child come back to the past crap. hope she dies (pun intended) OR maybe we find out she's not that important.

#14 Posted by Nightcrawler23 (775 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlackArmor: Uncanny Hope is yet another generic assassin.

#15 Posted by BlackArmor (6141 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nightcrawler23: I know she killed clones of Sinister but by what logic is she a stereotypical assassin? She hasn't killed anything that wasn't part of a hive mind and she doesn't have any other assassiny traits

#16 Posted by oviouslyjeangrey (400 posts) - - Show Bio

@Abattoir: I think hope is a useless character that is going no where

she is only here to try to replace jean but that wont ever happen

#17 Edited by HopesummersFORtheFUTURE (3182 posts) - - Show Bio

@RogueOracle: does anyone have a pic of namor and hope interaction from uncanny x-menUncanny X-Men #6

#18 Edited by Osian2 (455 posts) - - Show Bio

Hope was a great character in the future then she came to the present and became a whiny little brat.

Hope: Why won't you let me have my own team!

Scott: Okay you can have a team (Even though you're only like sixteen and have the worst social skills to the point that your own team will consider killing you)

Hope: Why won't you let me have Shaw on my team!

Scott: Fine you can have him (Even though he's a psychopath who tried to kill the x-men, tried to kill your father and is part of the club that created Dark Phoenix)

Scott: I'm betting the fate of the entire world on you controlling the Phoenix Hope because I trust and believe in you.

Hope: WHY DON'T YOU TRUST ME!!!!!

In uncanny though ever since regenesis she's pretty cool it's like Kieron Gillen is the only person who writes her well.

#19 Edited by PhoenixoftheTides (3551 posts) - - Show Bio

She's very annoying and to me seems spoiled and hateful. Hope managed to have a better childhood than Rachel Grey (not being a slave hunting other mutants for Ahab and all) and still turned out to be insufferable. I'm glad other people have the same reaction to her that I did - I liked her more in the future as a child, and then she devolved very quickly into a brat once she got to the present world.

#20 Posted by HopesummersFORtheFUTURE (3182 posts) - - Show Bio

@Osian2: lol

#21 Posted by Yung ANcient One (4799 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not a big fan, so I wouldnt know, but the lil things I've read shes looked like a Spoiled lil Brat that doesnt understand the gravity of the situation.

The normal annoying I'm 15 I'll be 18 in a few years I'm pretty much almost an Adult now.

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#22 Posted by Hareil0079 (429 posts) - - Show Bio

I maybe in the minority but I like how she is right now. From Cable to SC to GH and currently now I love it. Seeing her growth her evolution and her change in finding her self or rather defining herself, making her life her own instead of what cyclops wants. Especially in AvX which i'm more curious on her character.

#23 Posted by unicornpuncher (418 posts) - - Show Bio

@Osian2 said:

Hope was a great character in the future then she came to the present and became a whiny little brat.

Hope: Why won't you let me have my own team!

Scott: Okay you can have a team (Even though you're only like sixteen and have the worst social skills to the point that your own team will consider killing you)

Hope: Why won't you let me have Shaw on my team!

Scott: Fine you can have him (Even though he's a psychopath who tried to kill the x-men, tried to kill your father and is part of the club that created Dark Phoenix)

Scott: I'm betting the fate of the entire world on you controlling the Phoenix Hope because I trust and believe in you.

Hope: WHY DON'T YOU TRUST ME!!!!!

In uncanny though ever since regenesis she's pretty cool it's like Kieron Gillen is the only person who writes her well.

This was great!!!!

#24 Edited by unicornpuncher (418 posts) - - Show Bio

Ive got to agree with Hareil0079, I like what hope is starting to become. She was great in Second Coming and just starting to grow as a character outside of the future messiah deal. I didnt read any of Generation Hope, but hope they keep her around after AvX. Id like to see her interact more with Cable as well as Rouge. And heck while were at it, why not Mimic too?

Ok now that I think about it, Hope vs. Mimic vs. Rouge would be a fun fight. They are all like the Mr. Mimes of marvel

#25 Posted by John Valentine (16310 posts) - - Show Bio

@Hareil0079 said:

I maybe in the minority but I like how she is right now. From Cable to SC to GH and currently now I love it. Seeing her growth her evolution and her change in finding her self or rather defining herself, making her life her own instead of what cyclops wants. Especially in AvX which i'm more curious on her character.

She comes across as a complete brat most of the time. She shows an utter disregard for all life (Nightcrawler, teleporters during SC etc) save for her own and doesn't seem to appreciate the massive sacrifices (Hellion's hands, Cyclops' morality and personal relationships etc) that have been made to ensure her safety. The only person she's showed a bit of sadness for is Cable, her father. Gillen's Hope is the best we've seen so far, though.

#26 Edited by Osian2 (455 posts) - - Show Bio

@unicornpuncher said:

@Osian2 said:

Hope was a great character in the future then she came to the present and became a whiny little brat.

Hope: Why won't you let me have my own team!

Scott: Okay you can have a team (Even though you're only like sixteen and have the worst social skills to the point that your own team will consider killing you)

Hope: Why won't you let me have Shaw on my team!

Scott: Fine you can have him (Even though he's a psychopath who tried to kill the x-men, tried to kill your father and is part of the club that created Dark Phoenix)

Scott: I'm betting the fate of the entire world on you controlling the Phoenix Hope because I trust and believe in you.

Hope: WHY DON'T YOU TRUST ME!!!!!

In uncanny though ever since regenesis she's pretty cool it's like Kieron Gillen is the only person who writes her well.

This was great!!!!

It's funny because it's true :) In generation Hope and when it concerns the phoenix Hope acts like a brat. In AVX #1 Hope had a go at Cyclops and threw a tantrum saying she was ready for the Phoenix (Without knowing ANYTHING AT ALL about it) and when it finally arrives surprise surprise she can't handle it. That's what happens when you run away from the people who are trying to train you for the Phoenix and instead fly to the antartic to meet Wolverine (the man who wanted to kill you) and then she acts all surprised when he calls the Avengers I mean WTF, what did she think was gonna happen? give him a beer and he forgets everything?

In Uncanny though I love her character. She's smart, rescourceful and funny. Her dialogue with Namor was great, she's witty instead of bratty and easily one of my favourite members of the team.

#27 Posted by oraclefyre (936 posts) - - Show Bio

I think I'm just going to pretend that Generation Hope never happened.

And that comment she made to Emma about the people she's slept with...that was just so out of character in my opinion for Hope. I don't think Hope would ever stoop to those levels to insult someone. She's not someone who strikes me as someone who would be catty, bratty she can be, but not catty. I always thought her as someone who doesn't waste time with petty comments.

Gillen gave her purpose, he gave depth behind her actions. I may not have agreed with her actions, but I understood them. As soon as he left we were stuck with a Hope who I just didn't like.

But yeah, she's written really well in Uncanny.

#28 Posted by Hareil0079 (429 posts) - - Show Bio

@John Valentine said:

@Hareil0079 said:

I maybe in the minority but I like how she is right now. From Cable to SC to GH and currently now I love it. Seeing her growth her evolution and her change in finding her self or rather defining herself, making her life her own instead of what cyclops wants. Especially in AvX which i'm more curious on her character.

She comes across as a complete brat most of the time. She shows an utter disregard for all life (Nightcrawler, teleporters during SC etc) save for her own and doesn't seem to appreciate the massive sacrifices (Hellion's hands, Cyclops' morality and personal relationships etc) that have been made to ensure her safety. The only person she's showed a bit of sadness for is Cable, her father. Gillen's Hope is the best we've seen so far, though.

She's a survivor/solider and plus she did show some remorse to NC death if I remember correctly, but hard to have emotional connections to someone your just met or dont really now regardless of the situation plus you gotta factor in how she was raised. The relationship with her and cyclops is more of a bittersweet level of respect. (i.e Your not my father but your right in judgment in certain levels) This is shown best in Uncanny X-men Negative Zone feat. Steve Rodgers. Once again with Cable... of course she's gonna be sad for his death for obvious reasons

#29 Posted by Mercy_ (92695 posts) - - Show Bio
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